Who is our next QB? 70 million would be useless with no QB?!

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So, you only proved that a top run & defensive team can’t win with their QB playing with a porn pec. Sorry, as you say, facts rule. Right?
Ahh yes I forgot everyone but Wilsongets the injury excuse. again the problem is you all said great run game and defense and any QB will do. Well, that includes an injured one.

"His receivers let him down by repeatedly dropping passes, the defense gave up some unforgivable big plays, and penalties on both sides of the ball again played a big role."

Yeah, the Qb injury he played through was the problem.

That's why you have a back up remember great defense great run game any Qb well did not work did it.

The reality is with the exception of a handful of outliers you need a great QB to get to and win an SB period.

Now let's add his injury happened in 2nd game week Oct we were 1-3 with that great defense and run game before the injury. So sorry point still stands you need more than just a great defense and run game.
 

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Ahh yes I forgot everyone but Wilsongets the injury excuse. again the problem is you all said great run game and defense and any QB will do. Well, that includes an injured one.

"His receivers let him down by repeatedly dropping passes, the defense gave up some unforgivable big plays, and penalties on both sides of the ball again played a big role."

Yeah, the Qb injury he played through was the problem.

That's why you have a back up remember great defense great run game any Qb well did not work did it.

The reality is with the exception of a handful of outliers you need a great QB to get to and win an SB period.

Now let's add his injury happened in 2nd game week Oct we were 1-3 with that great defense and run game before the injury. So sorry point still stands you need more than just a great defense and run game.
First off, I never said any average Joe QB would win and Bowl, and I haven’t read one post by anyone here that made that claim either.

But go ahead and change the text to fit your narrative. The rest of read blah blah blah. Did you write the quote yourself to try to fit your point?

Your remarkable believe that Russ walks on water is amazing.
 

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First off, I never said any average Joe QB would win and Bowl, and I haven’t read one post by anyone here that made that claim either.

But go ahead and change the text to fit your narrative. The rest of read blah blah blah. Did you write the quote yourself to try to fit your point?

Your remarkable believe that Russ walks on water is amazing.
Then you have not been reading a lot of posts, it has been said by several that any Qb would do. As to the rest of you posts as you say its gblah blah blahg.

Now more proof you really don't read posts if you did you would know this statement by you
"Your remarkable believe that Russ walks on water is amazing." is a lie as I have called Wilson out when he made mistakes.
 

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I read damn near every post here, and have for years, so I don’t share your viewpoint.
 

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I read damn near every post here, and have for years, so I don’t share your viewpoint.
well, your own statements show you don't or you would know I have called Wilson out. Perhaps it was one of the missing damn near every meaning not every, obviously you missed some.
 

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I’ve seen you post something that called out Russ when another poster slammed you, but you sort of walk it back to make sure we know you live the man.
 

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I’ve seen you post something that called out Russ when another poster slammed you, but you sort of walk it back to make sure we know you live the man.
Again then you have not read all the posts.
 

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The proof and facts are in the threads for someone who reads them all you should know where they are.

Not sure who you're talking to. I'm not the poster who said I read them all.

If you have objected to something about Russ, just show the proof. Remember, though; if you have to search very long yourself, it's just going to be evidence against your statement.
 

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Not sure who you're talking to. I'm not the poster who said I read them all.

If you have objected to something about Russ, just show the proof. Remember, though; if you have to search very long yourself, it's just going to be evidence against your statement.
You are not getting it sir, when it comes to anything Russell Wilson, John63 can quote his own writing as proof because whatever came of John63 is gospel when it comes to Russell. Guys on dot net are so in awe of that.
 

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You are not getting it sir, when it comes to anything Russell Wilson, John63 can quote his own writing as proof because whatever came of John63 is gospel when it comes to Russell. Guys on dot net are so in awe of that.
Are we all now each of supposed to find evidence that we all along were anti-Russ, and he was the worst thing about the Seahawks, and now we're right....now that he's moved on?
 

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Are we all now each of supposed to find evidence that we all along were anti-Russ, and he was the worst thing about the Seahawks, and now we're right....now that he's moved on?
I like to think everyone on dot net was pro Russ, just not everyone is pro John63's brand of worshipping. Most here have no doubt that Russ was the best QB we ever had, a true franchise QB with generational talent.
 

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Not sure who you're talking to. I'm not the poster who said I read them all.

If you have objected to something about Russ, just show the proof. Remember, though; if you have to search very long yourself, it's just going to be evidence against your statement.
Well here is an idea of what is it I disagreed with that you want proof for.
 

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I don't know.

I was a 'Wilson hater' supposedly because I thought:

1 - he would get caught up in the off-field projects and it would impact his on field performance (As he himself told us, the separation is in the preparation. And so if he put less hours into preparing, then his separation would be less too. This seemed to happen)

2 - Carroll would never be a good fit for him because Carroll was too focused on defense and would squander him. Worse, because Carroll was not an offensive coach - he would stymie if not atrophy Wilson's development. This also seemed to happen)

3 - Driving as much of the cap to a QB we underutilized made no sense.

I wanted to trade him to the Jets for a boatload of picks and get Mahomes. But even I wouldn't be stupid enough to pick Carroll over Wilson. At least Wilson has upside.


Not sure it matters much who was pro or anti Wilson, anymore than it matters who was Team Lynch/LOB or Team Wilson.

We have what we have, a team with an aging coach, holes all over, our strength is in the WR group but we have no QB. So we are strong at catching the ball but weak at getting the ball to them to catch. And we have a godawful defense, to go with our increasingly godawful HC. At least we canned the DC, but we could have used those losses.

Still, Russ was a HOF and generational player. He was incredible under pressure and THE most important player in Seattle Seahawk history. Even if I wasn't sure we would use the guy right (and we didn't), it was impossible not to appreciate what we had.
 

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Are we all now each of supposed to find evidence that we all along were anti-Russ, and he was the worst thing about the Seahawks, and now we're right....now that he's moved on?
Not all of us were anti-Wilson. Some were, some were not.
 

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I don't know.

I was a 'Wilson hater' supposedly because I thought:

1 - he would get caught up in the off-field projects and it would impact his on field performance (As he himself told us, the separation is in the preparation. And so if he put less hours into preparing, then his separation would be less too. This seemed to happen)

2 - Carroll would never be a good fit for him because Carroll was too focused on defense and would squander him. Worse, because Carroll was not an offensive coach - he would stymie if not atrophy Wilson's development. This also seemed to happen)

3 - Driving as much of the cap to a QB we underutilized made no sense.

I wanted to trade him to the Jets for a boatload of picks and get Mahomes. But even I wouldn't be stupid enough to pick Carroll over Wilson. At least Wilson has upside.


Not sure it matters much who was pro or anti Wilson, anymore than it matters who was Team Lynch/LOB or Team Wilson.

We have what we have, a team with an aging coach, holes all over, our strength is in the WR group but we have no QB. So we are strong at catching the ball but weak at getting the ball to them to catch. And we have a godawful defense, to go with our increasingly godawful HC. At least we canned the DC, but we could have used those losses.

But Russ was a HOF and generational player. He was incredible under pressure and THE most important player in Seattle Seahawk history. Even if I wasn't sure we would use the guy right (and we didn't), it was impossible not to appreciate what we had.
THIS ^^^^
 

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THIS ^^^^
You heard it here, folks.

"1 - he would get caught up in the off-field projects and it would impact his on field performance (As he himself told us, the separation is in the preparation. And so if he put less hours into preparing, then his separation would be less too. This seemed to happen)"

John63 agrees that Russell Wilson was distracted by off-field projects. He confirms it right here, with his "THIS ^^^^."
 
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