chris98251
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That goes back the HBO situation with trying to promote and buy the rights to produce the fights, Pay per views etc. They have Monopolized it to a extent since they also hold the Purse strings.
chris98251":xe9lh8dh said:That goes back the HBO situation with trying to promote and buy the rights to produce the fights, Pay per views etc. They have Monopolized it to a extent since they also hold the Purse strings.
SouthSoundHawk":qvjbdxzi said:What the hell is boxing??
Seriously though...
I'm more interested in a guy that can master multiple styles of fighting and put that skill on full display. Rather than watch a guy that has mastered a single craft. The biggest fighters boxing has are two old guys (Pac and Floyd)...and I would rather watch the Spurs play he Spurs than see that fight.
Boxing is going the way of MLB, it's too boring compared to the competition.
Greenhell":16m4eygi said:SouthSoundHawk":16m4eygi said:What the hell is boxing??
Seriously though...
I'm more interested in a guy that can master multiple styles of fighting and put that skill on full display. Rather than watch a guy that has mastered a single craft. The biggest fighters boxing has are two old guys (Pac and Floyd)...and I would rather watch the Spurs play he Spurs than see that fight.
Boxing is going the way of MLB, it's too boring compared to the competition.
Master multiple styles of fighting yet they almost always end up rolling around on the mat trying to get an arm bar.
The Radish":3phvnvwd said:Multiple sports & styles?
Yes,,,and master of none. I find this cage fighting as boring as watching dry paint dry. They throw arm punches that are week, kicks that have to be staged. As someone said earlier its watching one try to get an arm bar on the others throat rather than any kind of fighting.
If you want to see real kick boxers you need to watch the midget Chuck Norris, or Randal "Tex" Cobb. They at least has a great talent level of those sports as opposed to the new kids that can kick a bit and that's all.
I understand my sport is out of favor right now but it isn't because of a superior product, its because of money that has decided to have this type of sport. I've always said put a real boxer in the cage with one of those guys and see how long they last. I'd wager an old fat out of shape Roberto Duran could put most if not all of those cage fighters on the floor in a pretty rapid time frame.
As far as 2 guys hugging I agree the heavy weights have gotten out of hand with that. But the lighter weights are great to watch. anything above middleweights they need to be told to either fight or get points taken away. That will speed things up.
And the worst thing is the greatest announcer of all time, Michael Buffer being forced to do commercials with Flo to make a living.
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JGfromtheNW":152of324 said:The Radish":152of324 said:Multiple sports & styles?
Yes,,,and master of none. I find this cage fighting as boring as watching dry paint dry. They throw arm punches that are week, kicks that have to be staged. As someone said earlier its watching one try to get an arm bar on the others throat rather than any kind of fighting.
If you want to see real kick boxers you need to watch the midget Chuck Norris, or Randal "Tex" Cobb. They at least has a great talent level of those sports as opposed to the new kids that can kick a bit and that's all.
I understand my sport is out of favor right now but it isn't because of a superior product, its because of money that has decided to have this type of sport. I've always said put a real boxer in the cage with one of those guys and see how long they last. I'd wager an old fat out of shape Roberto Duran could put most if not all of those cage fighters on the floor in a pretty rapid time frame.
As far as 2 guys hugging I agree the heavy weights have gotten out of hand with that. But the lighter weights are great to watch. anything above middleweights they need to be told to either fight or get points taken away. That will speed things up.
And the worst thing is the greatest announcer of all time, Michael Buffer being forced to do commercials with Flo to make a living.
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I'm with ya, Les. I can't stand watching MMA/UFC. It's bad boxing/striking followed by minutes of two dudes struggling to wrestle each other into submission. Are there some good fights, knockouts and impressive talent? Definitely. But the majority is shite and I think is taking away some great talent that could land in boxing.
UFC is like watching two dudes who wrestled their entire life get into a street fight. "Oh yeah, they threw a few punches and then started trying to beat each other on the ground, saw that outside of a bar last Thursday."
Boxing is masterful and controlled fighting. I just enjoy the structure and competition of going toe-to-toe, I guess.
The Radish":3jzxaysz said:I've always said put a real boxer in the cage with one of those guys and see how long they last. I'd wager an old fat out of shape Roberto Duran could put most if not all of those cage fighters on the floor in a pretty rapid time frame.
it was too late for the former boxing champion-turned-mixed martial artist; the time for heeding was past, and Mayorga, soft around the middle now and with only one MMA fight to his name (an ill-gotten TKO victory over a tomato can he beat with an illegal knee to the spine), walked into a cage in Nicaragua and promptly and inevitably got submitted by middleweight Rene “Level” Martinez, who may never be as good a mixed martial artist as Mayorga was a boxer (a world champion in two divisions, a 29-8-1 record, a cover story in Ring Magazine), but who, unlike Mayorga, is actually a mixed martial artist and not a dabbler and who did exactly what any mixed martial worth the name would do and has done every time a boxer dares/dared to try MMA: He took him down as soon as humanly possible and submitted him. No need to stand in the way of an artist’s fists when there are other options on the table.
Mayorga is only the latest in a long line of professional boxers who have deluded themselves into believing that skill sets between combat sports are transferrable and that toughness is enough to win a fight. From James Toney to Ray Mercer and now to Ricardo Mayorga, the list of the hopefuls whose hopes were quickly dashed by a choke is growing long.
Tical21":tn7u5tsu said:MMA was really interesting as a concept. When it took a Jiu jitsu fighter against a kickboxer to see what style was better, or a karate fighter against a street brawler. It was really compelling. But now, it is basically all a hybrid, as the previous poster said, wrestling mixed with dirty boxing. In the vast majority of the fights, nothing of note happens. The numbers are dropping quickly, and it figures to be all but extinct within the next few years, as it is simply a bad product. The sweet science, it is not.
To hit on Mayweather really quickly, I think this fight was a perfect blueprint for how to beat him, and a more talented fighter would have. Again leads me to believe that he would get absolutely carved up by Manny. He doesn't have the power to keep Manny off of him. Barring a perfect punch that catches Manny well enough to put him to sleep, it is a one-sided fight. Floyd hasn't fought anybody in years and years, and I think we're starting to find out why. He'll never again fight anybody that he has a risk of losing his perfect record to. Sad.
The Radish":11wleqee said:I've always said put a real boxer in the cage with one of those guys and see how long they last. I'd wager an old fat out of shape Roberto Duran could put most if not all of those cage fighters on the floor in a pretty rapid time frame.
CPHawk":je8fwfr5 said:Boxing isn't fighting, it's to fighting what the British standing shoulder to shoulder and firing at each other was to war.