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Coug_Hawk08":1h9w3pcu said:What an awful trade. 2nd round plus 8m for marginal impact. Now we will be lucky to even net a 4th round comp.
FO flipped out on the Malik Injury, we would have been fine.
Also, on this topic...RCATES":a1vt3x8b said:$11M for Sheldon means 4th rd not a 3rd compensatory. He basically chose the better team. He knows Hawks window has closed.
Seahawk_Dan":91gedxza said:Seymour":91gedxza said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/974741755101831168[/tweet]
It hurts even more when you say it out aloud.
This too. There's a whole lot of chance involved.fridayfrenzy":1q7djmf7 said:Seahawk_Dan":1q7djmf7 said:Seymour":1q7djmf7 said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/974741755101831168[/tweet]
It hurts even more when you say it out aloud.
What hurts?
The Hawks get a comp pick which is conveniently left out of this analysis. Kearse wasn't very good, and not sure how Paul Richardson leaving in free agency is even relevant.
Richardson and a 3rd/4th comp pick for a 2nd and Kearse.
Hindsight is 20/20 but the front office couldn't predict the secondary being decimated with injuries.
Coug_Hawk08":2r22uu7p said:What an awful trade. 2nd round plus 8m for marginal impact. Now we will be lucky to even net a 4th round comp.
fridayfrenzy":1c6c5265 said:Coug_Hawk08":1c6c5265 said:What an awful trade. 2nd round plus 8m for marginal impact. Now we will be lucky to even net a 4th round comp.
I honestly don't see how its a terrible trade.
fridayfrenzy":2m6qldgm said:Seahawk_Dan":2m6qldgm said:Seymour":2m6qldgm said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/974741755101831168[/tweet]
It hurts even more when you say it out aloud.
What hurts?
The Hawks get a comp pick which is conveniently left out of this analysis. Kearse wasn't very good, and not sure how Paul Richardson leaving in free agency is even relevant.
Richardson and a 3rd/4th comp pick for a 2nd and Kearse.
Hindsight is 20/20 but the front office couldn't predict the secondary being decimated with injuries.
jammerhawk":300t3voo said:Doubt that Schneider was the driving force wanting the trade for Richardson to happen, this is Harvinesque and has Pete’s Big Balls prints all over it. They traded a 2nd for a possible 4th and one year of Sheldon at $8 mil./year. Seems like a bad deal created by critical need.
It’s done, time to move on..
Disregarding the unfortunate injuries which was a big reason they didn't make a deep playoff hunt, what is bad about the trade?Seahawk_Dan":8884aglx said:fridayfrenzy":8884aglx said:Seahawk_Dan":8884aglx said:Seymour":8884aglx said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/974741755101831168[/tweet]
It hurts even more when you say it out aloud.
What hurts?
The Hawks get a comp pick which is conveniently left out of this analysis. Kearse wasn't very good, and not sure how Paul Richardson leaving in free agency is even relevant.
Richardson and a 3rd/4th comp pick for a 2nd and Kearse.
Hindsight is 20/20 but the front office couldn't predict the secondary being decimated with injuries.
It hurts because the whole Richardson trade was a reaction for Malik getting hurt and wanting to get rid of Kearse. The FO wanted to go all in in 2017 for a deep playoff hunt but didn't even make it in the first place.
Comp picks are fine, but fans exaggerate their value. First of all, they are at the very, very end of the round they are awarded in. Let's say it ends up being only a 4th round compensation pick (only 11 3rds were awarded last year so it's possible), it has very little value -- at that point, it's basically the equivalent of two six rounders (according to draft value chart). Hindsight or not, we're now without pick #49 overall.fridayfrenzy":3g4mvtmt said:Hindsight is 20/20 but the front office couldn't predict the secondary being decimated with injuries.
You've got "flip-flopping" on both sides. Everyone acting like Kearse was some valuable asset that we "lost" in the SR trade is just as guilty. Before the trade almost every person on here wanted Kearse cut if not traded.JimmyG":3lhl3phx said:Also, on this topic...RCATES":3lhl3phx said:$11M for Sheldon means 4th rd not a 3rd compensatory. He basically chose the better team. He knows Hawks window has closed.
... every time we trade away a pick, there's always marginalizing of what we gave up. "Well, our first round pick is so late in the first, it's basically a second. When you think about that, it's not so bad."
But then when we talk about compensation picks -- despite the fact that they come super late, e.g. last year a 3rd round comp pick was as late as pick #107 in the draft, a 4th round comp pick was as late as #144 -- we assert that round like it's super valuable.
Lots of flip-flopping to minimize what we gave up.
Not impressed with this trade by Schneider.
JimmyG":2f791sco said:We don't even have a compensation pick for him yet and you're acting like it's in the bag already. People were acting like it was in the bag when this trade happened months ago. Stop minimizing what we gave up.fridayfrenzy":2f791sco said:Hindsight is 20/20 but the front office couldn't predict the secondary being decimated with injuries.