Sgt. Largent
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Uncle Si":2b0jwvsd said:Klinsmann is out
We knew it was coming. Can't lose your locker room, just can't.
Uncle Si":2b0jwvsd said:Klinsmann is out
Sgt. Largent":3tc5qdt4 said:Uncle Si":3tc5qdt4 said:Klinsmann is out
We knew it was coming. Can't lose your locker room, just can't.
Uncle Si":2o95r45z said:Sgt. Largent":2o95r45z said:Uncle Si":2o95r45z said:Klinsmann is out
We knew it was coming. Can't lose your locker room, just can't.
I don't know man. You and I disagree on this point. You can always change your locker room. You literally have an entire nation at your disposal. He couldve turned to the kids and they'd have loved him for it. Not being able to placate the likes of Altidore and Bradley (or Donovan) who have digressed anyways doesn't strike me as a bad thing. Its what US soccer needs anyways.
I think he boxed himself in from USSF and they've been waiting for a reason to push him out. By the sounds of it they had opened up talks with potential replacements before the Mexico match.
If they turn to Bruce Arenas we will all be waxing nostalgic for the Klinsmann days. I think Gulati should be following Klinsmann, but here we are.
hawkfan68":aircj48a said:I agree with Si....Gulati needs to go. I think USSF has hit its ceiling under his leadership. It's time to bring a new face to run things.
As for the next coach what about Thomas Rongen? He has been involved in USSF in a number of roles. Most recently the coach of American Samoa - https://www.yahoo.com/news/zac-lee-rigg-thomas-rongen-183600208-soccer.html
Uncle Si":8bu56xll said:Short term, however, I would love to see Mancini.
Sgt. Largent":dt9r2tgl said:Uncle Si":dt9r2tgl said:Short term, however, I would love to see Mancini.
Why only short term? Mancini would be a fantastic long term hire as well. He has the juice and soccer knowledge to command the respect of the entire program and all it's players.
IMO a US coach is the exact wrong way to go long term. That's a regression back to the stagnant Bob Bradley years. Which is fine if we just want to continue to make the WC, and maybe get through to knockout rounds.
But if the US program REALLY wants to take the next step and become a perennial top 10 program, then it's going to have to find a coach like Jurgen that takes chances and can facilitate the necessary changes to US Development................even if it doesn't work out in the end.
Uncle Si":1cp1in4w said:In retrospect, Klinsmann should've stayed. What he needed was a better assistant coach. But that's in retrospect now.
Sgt. Largent":1k03cv67 said:Uncle Si":1k03cv67 said:In retrospect, Klinsmann should've stayed. What he needed was a better assistant coach. But that's in retrospect now.
Idk, I respect Jurgen for trying to change things.............and 5-6 years is a long time for any national team manager. So that was about the shelf life to be expected.
Bottom line is maybe the US doesn't have the players or development to to be a top 10 country, but they do have the money to throw at just about any coach they want, so the sky should be the limit for the next hire.
The Arena hiring tells me that the program needed a strong stern presence that could restore some discipline and order to the squad and overall organizational ladder.
Uncle Si":209a9xtj said:The hiring of Arena is a bull shit "safe play" by a bunch of people who not only do not understand the actual dilemma facing US soccer but have no interest in investing the time or resources to changing it. Its unfair to continue to say there was no order in the team. That's speculation and stemming from voices of players who were failing. Arena will do nothing more than organize the group and make certain players feel comfortable. Great... just what the US needs. Overrun players who won't risk challenge for the sake of their own comfort being pillowed even more. I'm sure our younger stars like Pulisic and Bobby Wood are wondering exactly what the point of all of this is, while the likes of Bradley and Altidore are nodding in affirmation that the status quo has been restored.
Sgt. Largent":qvlkdu0b said:I definitely agree there needs to be a consolidation and uniformity of our youth programs.
As far as the pay to play, in order to get to those MLS youth clubs Si the player had to go through at least 4-5 years of a pay to play program.
Take Yedlin for example, he came from my daughter's premiere program, Crossfire. If he wasn't in Crossfire he never would have gotten a tryout to get into Emerald City FC, which is what you're talking about, a non profit academy.
So it's still a problem IMO, cause I've seen it firsthand. I've coached and seen many good young athletes that drifted off into other sports once they got to age 10-12 cause their parents couldn't afford the 5-10k per year it cost to go into a Crossfire or similar premiere club.