Sweezy WTF?

[HawkWow]

. Holding on first downs, personal fouls after the play, just dumb shite. He needs to clean up his game or we need to find some able body soon.

Other than 4th down (and not always), I can't think of a better down to get caught holding. Someone in this thread said it best.."If Cable is on board with him, we should be too". It's our team but it's Cable's ass. Sweezy needs reps and that's what he's getting.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

Sweezy is one year removed from being a defensive lineman.

This is true. But true statements do not protect our QB.

O linemen who know how to pass block do.

I'm HOPEFUL that Sweezy becomes our most improved player. We need him to do so.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Sweezy is one year removed from being a defensive lineman.

This is true. But true statements do not protect our QB.

O linemen who know how to pass block do.

I'm HOPEFUL that Sweezy becomes our most improved player. We need him to do so.

You see, this is the kind of offensive line cliche I hate.

An offensive line is five men working as one. And they use schemes. So while the left tackle will face a lot of speed/elite rushers off the edge and has to protect the blindside (why they get paid), generally the success or failure of a line and the protection of a quarterback does not come down to one man.

So yes, Sweezy can be one year removed from being a d-liner and he can continue to grow, get experience and improve. Because it's not just on him. His performance is not the difference maker. Just in the same way that most people (myself included) probably can't name five starting right guards in the NFL.

The fact is Seattle's line is well coached, well schemed, organised and familiar with each other. They are a team within the team. So even if Sweezy isn't the finished article yet, it's not going to get Wilson killed.

 

[kigenzun]

I have to respectfully disagree with the OP.

I am a big fan of Sweezy's game: great run blocker, superior athelticism for an interior lineman, carries roughly 300lbs without looking fat, long muscular arms, nasty as all get-out. Everything else will come with reps and experience.

This is a bigtime athlete that you have to reel in and ask to tone down the aggressiveness, which is considerably more desirable than the inverse. If he was a problem he wouldn't be playing, this team does not play guys that can't cut it.

Any doubts about the dudes ability as a run blocker I suggest watching the highlight of Lynch's TD run vs the 49ers last season and what Sweezy does to Patrick Willis on that play.

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I believe in "The Sweeze"! You watch. He'll be voted to the Pro Bowl before too long... he's that good.

 

[kidhawk]

It's good that he's getting the reps, because he's got the athleticism but lacks the experience at the position. Right now, our best bet is for Carpenter to get to 100% and stay healthy for a season, but getting Sweezy the reps now could pay dividends when/if Carpenter gets hurt.

Do you mean McQuistan here? I'm not sure what Sweezy and Carpenter have to do with each other.

Because when Carpenter comes back, he takes the Left Guard spot, and I'd be rather surprised if McQuistan didn't get the nod at Right guard

 

[kidhawk]

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[MontanaHawk05]

Because when Carpenter comes back, he takes the Left Guard spot, and I'd be rather surprised if McQuistan didn't get the nod at Right guard

I wouldn't.

 

[chris98251]

We have talent here, if the Rookies improve or surpass Sweezy they will start or as stated Carp comes back and McQ moves over, maybe Sweezy with dramatically take a step, not unheard of. But our run game will be respected with this line and our RB's. That alone will giove Wilson protection.

 

[Tech Worlds]

Sweezy is one year removed from being a defensive lineman.

This is true. But true statements do not protect our QB.

O linemen who know how to pass block do.

I'm HOPEFUL that Sweezy becomes our most improved player. We need him to do so.

You see, this is the kind of offensive line cliche I hate.

An offensive line is five men working as one. And they use schemes. So while the left tackle will face a lot of speed/elite rushers off the edge and has to protect the blindside (why they get paid), generally the success or failure of a line and the protection of a quarterback does not come down to one man.

So yes, Sweezy can be one year removed from being a d-liner and he can continue to grow, get experience and improve. Because it's not just on him. His performance is not the difference maker. Just in the same way that most people (myself included) probably can't name five starting right guards in the NFL.

The fact is Seattle's line is well coached, well schemed, organised and familiar with each other. They are a team within the team. So even if Sweezy isn't the finished article yet, it's not going to get Wilson killed.

I also think some of Wilson's sacks cant be blamed on the Oline. Hopefully this year his presnap recognition will get to the point where he knows where the pressure is coming from and adjusts accordingly.

Nice post ThinkTank.

 

[bigtrain21]

I thought sweezy got screwed with a couple of his hold calls. It's not like he did anything this bad on the right side of this gif which wasn't called holding btw...

 

[The Radish]

I had always been told that as long as the lineman had his hands inside the defensive players arms/shoulders that was ok.

IN the GB game they called players for holding when they were doing just that. I can't imagine a league wide change of a rule that's been in effect for 40 years but with the NFL anything is possible.

:les:

 

[The Radish]

I thought sweezy got screwed with a couple of his hold calls. It's not like he did anything this bad on the right side of this gif which wasn't called holding btw...

lol, that can't be holding they didn't call it!

hahahahaha

 

[hkronin]

Can someone can clarify this from the GB game:

On the first holding penalty called on Sweezy at 11:13 in the 1st quarter. Phil Sims says on the replay that Sweezy has a handful of jersey and his hands outside on AJ Hawk, but it looks to me like its Unger who's locked up with Hawk. Was the penalty called on the wrong guy? I'm not well versed on what constitutes a hold, but it sure looked to me like Sweezy wasn't doing on that play that looked like a blatant hold...

 

[Jazzhawk]

I love my Seahawks brethren....but somehow I just have a hard time imagining coaches that have their careers on the line in the NFL and are paid to KNOW what to look for are purposefully sabotaging the season on a guy that can't play, and play well. Call me crazy, but if Cable thinks he's our best shot at RG, then, he's our best shot at RG.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

Sweezy is one year removed from being a defensive lineman.

This is true. But true statements do not protect our QB.

O linemen who know how to pass block do.

I'm HOPEFUL that Sweezy becomes our most improved player. We need him to do so.

You see, this is the kind of offensive line cliche I hate.

An offensive line is five men working as one. And they use schemes. So while the left tackle will face a lot of speed/elite rushers off the edge and has to protect the blindside (why they get paid), generally the success or failure of a line and the protection of a quarterback does not come down to one man.

So yes, Sweezy can be one year removed from being a d-liner and he can continue to grow, get experience and improve. Because it's not just on him. His performance is not the difference maker. Just in the same way that most people (myself included) probably can't name five starting right guards in the NFL.

The fact is Seattle's line is well coached, well schemed, organised and familiar with each other. They are a team within the team. So even if Sweezy isn't the finished article yet, it's not going to get Wilson killed.

Ok. I hate cliches too. There will be times when Sweezy is 1-on-1 with a defender in a passing situation. I hope he figures out where to get his feet and hands in those situations. That's all.

 

[HawkAroundTheClock]

I love my Seahawks brethren....but somehow I just have a hard time imagining coaches that have their careers on the line in the NFL and are paid to KNOW what to look for are purposefully sabotaging the season on a guy that can't play, and play well. Call me crazy, but if Cable thinks he's our best shot at RG, then, he's our best shot at RG.

Coaches who had their jobs on the line started Kelly Jennings. Even Aaron Curry. And John Moffitt at times.

 

[Atradees]

Good point.

Competition. I hope the rooks I have barely seen can step up and solidify the line a little.

I also felt there were too many mits on our budding superstar. It takes a while to make a guard I guess.

That being said, its a crap shoot to train a guy who has so little experience. Will he ever be a consistent player?

 

[Jazzhawk]

I love my Seahawks brethren....but somehow I just have a hard time imagining coaches that have their careers on the line in the NFL and are paid to KNOW what to look for are purposefully sabotaging the season on a guy that can't play, and play well. Call me crazy, but if Cable thinks he's our best shot at RG, then, he's our best shot at RG.

Coaches who had their jobs on the line started Kelly Jennings. Even Aaron Curry. And John Moffitt at times.

We had a crappy GM who gave them nothing more to work with. Doesn't change the fact that they are still in a better position to make the call then anyone on this board.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

I thought sweezy got screwed with a couple of his hold calls. It's not like he did anything this bad on the right side of this gif which wasn't called holding btw...

Man that's an irritating GIF.

At first I thought it was Justin Smith....

 

[kearly]

Has Sweezy been directly responsible for a sack this preseason? I could be wrong but I don't think he has. And his pressures allowed have been minimal. In the Packers game he did well on blitz pickup. Only bad part is the penalties, but at least in the Green Bay game, I thought he got hosed a bit on the calls.

He is special as a run blocker. He wouldn't need to be a great pass protector to warrant pro-bowl consideration, as Mike Iupati can attest.