Sonics/NHL/New arena thread

[chris98251]

If I were Hansen I would plan to keep the land and make it a Homeless Park to spite the Port and plow everything down and raise a bunch of tents rather then sell to the Port if this falls through.

 

[Sports Hernia]

If I were Hansen I would plan to keep the land and make it a Homeless Park to spite the Port and plow everything down and raise a bunch of tents rather then sell to the Port if this falls through.

The mayor would LOVE that though. I wouldn't sell to the port, their bad behavior should not be rewarded.

 

[randomation]

If I were Hansen I would plan to keep the land and make it a Homeless Park to spite the Port and plow everything down and raise a bunch of tents rather then sell to the Port if this falls through.

Nah turn it in the biggest strip club this side of Vegas

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Don't feel too sorry for Hansen, the real estate market has skyrocketed in the last 5-6 years. Dude's gonna make a killing if he sells it off.

I honestly think he's dead in the water at this point. I never underestimate the incompetence and futility or our local governments, but it seems like not even they can screw up either of these two choices of the Key projects. One will get approved.

 

[randomation]

They can once independent studies come back and say are you people nuts the area doesn't have the parking and can't take the traffic. Also if it requires a dime of public money it should be instantly nixed since Hansen is offering to build a brand new arena at zero cost to the public.

 

[Seanhawk]

They can once independent studies come back and say are you people nuts the area doesn't have the parking and can't take the traffic. Also if it requires a dime of public money it should be instantly nixed since Hansen is offering to build a brand new arena at zero cost to the public.

I guess I don't get the traffic thing. People talk like it's some insurmountable obstacle. Wouldn't it have been the same issue when the Sonics played there before?

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Even in just the decade since the Sonics were stolen, more people have moved in the area and Amazon and Expedia have built or are building campuses down there that bring hundreds (thousands?) of workers into the general area who were not there in 2007.

This city has changed a ton in a short time re: population.

 

[chris98251]

one just has to know we have the most Tower Cranes in operation in the United States and have for a couple of years to know how much building is going on, were talking tens of thousands of people moving in and potentially moving in to the downtown are let alone surrounding areas such as Bellevue and Renton.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Don't feel too sorry for Hansen, the real estate market has skyrocketed in the last 5-6 years. Dude's gonna make a killing if he sells it off.

I honestly think he's dead in the water at this point. I never underestimate the incompetence and futility or our local governments, but it seems like not even they can screw up either of these two choices of the Key projects. One will get approved.

I agree mostly.

 

[CPHawk]

They can once independent studies come back and say are you people nuts the area doesn't have the parking and can't take the traffic. Also if it requires a dime of public money it should be instantly nixed since Hansen is offering to build a brand new arena at zero cost to the public.

I guess I don't get the traffic thing. People talk like it's some insurmountable obstacle. Wouldn't it have been the same issue when the Sonics played there before?

That area is way worse now that when the sonics last played a game in Key. Amazon and lots of others have built that area way up.

 

[hawkcrazzed]

Here ill help u guys that want key arena. The NBA has already said HELL NO. For a decade and that was when it had better traffic. The basketball and hockey still won't seat 20k. So they are going to need to get bigger or same problem. Just different year. I get we all want the supes back. But to go down the road that has been cracked broken and really a graveyard. Cause the new guys say it can. Really stinks and to high hell.

Question both proposals said they don't need a anchor tenant. As in a major sports franchise. So what happens if they build it and the leagues say no. The Key is a damn beaten over dead horse that rolls over every 3 years. So the SCC can beat it some more. I really have the feeling if it is the key its concerts no sports.

 

[IndyHawk]

I got a crazy idea..Why don't they just build a massive arena right on top of Key,no need to tear it down :sarcasm_on:
Seattle after all is famous for buiding a city on top of old city and this would fit right in.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Here ill help u guys that want key arena. The NBA has already said HELL NO. For a decade and that was when it had better traffic. The basketball and hockey still won't seat 20k. So they are going to need to get bigger or same problem. Just different year. I get we all want the supes back. But to go down the road that has been cracked broken and really a graveyard. Cause the new guys say it can. Really stinks and to high hell.

Not sure where you heard that the NBA required 20k seats for the Key, because it's false.

Both plans fit within both the NBA and NHL guidelines, and would put Key at the 3rd or 4th smallest NBA arena. MOST NBA arenas are under 20k btw.

 

[dopeboy206]

Here ill help u guys that want key arena. The NBA has already said HELL NO. For a decade and that was when it had better traffic. The basketball and hockey still won't seat 20k. So they are going to need to get bigger or same problem. Just different year. I get we all want the supes back. But to go down the road that has been cracked broken and really a graveyard. Cause the new guys say it can. Really stinks and to high hell.

Not sure where you heard that the NBA required 20k seats for the Key, because it's false.

Both plans fit within both the NBA and NHL guidelines, and would put Key at the 3rd or 4th smallest NBA arena. MOST NBA arenas are under 20k btw.

Screw third or 4th smallest. We want 3rd or 4th largest. If we are paying for it might as well make it top 5 largest arena.


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[Glasgow Seahawk]

Mike McGinn running for mayor again. Does this change things for SODO or will it be too late? Assuming he won.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Mike McGinn running for mayor again. Does this change things for SODO or will it be too late? Assuming he won.

Pretty convenient timing right after Murray's sexual assault story don't you think?

But no, I don't think McGinn winning in November helps Hansen. My guess is it'll be June or July at the latest when one of the two groups will be officially chosen.

 

[Chapow]

They can once independent studies come back and say are you people nuts the area doesn't have the parking and can't take the traffic. Also if it requires a dime of public money it should be instantly nixed since Hansen is offering to build a brand new arena at zero cost to the public.

I guess I don't get the traffic thing. People talk like it's some insurmountable obstacle. Wouldn't it have been the same issue when the Sonics played there before?

I know some have already responded to this, but I'm going to chime in anyway.

First, as has already been said, there are way more people here now than there were 10 years ago.

Second, the whole South Lake Union area is way busier than it used to be with lots of large companies moving offices to that area (Amazon, Expedia, etc.)

Third, Mercer St is a nightmare. It is referred to as the Mercer Mess for a reason. It is literally quicker to walk to I-5 from the area around Seattle Center (and vice versa) than to drive on Mercer St.

Fourth, a lot of the land that was parking ten years ago has been developed into apartments and condos so there is now much less parking than there was when the Sonics were here.

Basically, right now, today, that area is pretty much a disaster traffic/parking wise. Now imagine an additional 18 thousand people all trying to get to the same place at the same time in that area.

 

[Tical21]

Yeah, I read population has quadrupled, and all the parking has been turned to condos. I thought it was pretty funny that they actually said the monorail would be a good option. I don't really care, honestly. I don't live in the city, and couldn't afford to go to more than a few games per year at NBA prices. For the 3 games that I go to, I can sit in traffic or take alternate transportation, whatever. I do believe that there is something special about having a real downtown basketball team. I always felt a little extra buzz down there.

The city would not mind much if a little public money is needed, if it will make the building profitable for them.

I am eternally grateful for Hansen, but I really couldn't care less which one gets done, as long as it gets a team back here.

 

[twisted_steel2]

If you want to help try to get the Sonics back, today is Sonic Boom Day... if you haven't heard.

http://seattlegrowthpodcast.com/sonicboomday/

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ProfShulman/status/853810912750256128[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sonicsarena/status/854017884036579328[/tweet]

Just a 1 day effort to really get the word out to our slimy mayor and the city council, that we want the Sonics back, and to please support the SodoArena, (or the Key I guess) :roll: Hey whatever works right?

Please email, tweet, etc. I know we've done this a million times, but I'll keep trying. I tweeted out quite a few things, and emailed every council member individually.

Maybe this will help:

http://seattlegrowthpodcast.com/BoomDayScript/

 

[chris98251]

If you want to help try to get the Sonics back, today is Sonic Boom Day... if you haven't heard.

http://seattlegrowthpodcast.com/sonicboomday/

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ProfShulman/status/853810912750256128[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sonicsarena/status/854017884036579328[/tweet]

Just a 1 day effort to really get the word out to our slimy mayor and the city council, that we want the Sonics back, and to please support the SodoArena, (or the Key I guess) :roll: Hey whatever works right?

Please email, tweet, etc. I know we've done this a million times, but I'll keep trying. I tweeted out quite a few things, and emailed every council member individually.

Maybe this will help:

http://seattlegrowthpodcast.com/BoomDayScript/

Need to be careful here, don't want the Mayor and Council saying they are getting bullied and being called Hateful names that hurt their feelings again, they may take their ball and go home and not vote to stall things.