WarHawks
Well-known member
- Joined
- Sep 16, 2012
- Messages
- 2,054
- Reaction score
- 1,636
You're not alone, friend. Well said.Levis (IMO) will be irrelevant in 3 years. He has no feel for pressure. He’s inaccurate over the middle. And he’s a slow processor of the game. He has all the worst qualities of Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones with even worse pocket presence. This also is all reflected in his 2021 tape too, and you can see it by how many times his WR has to reach back for a crossing route over the middle. I find the Josh Allen comparisons to be ridiculous and with all the muscle selfies, I keep thinking this is Brady Quinn 2.0.
So it’s a no brainer to me—Richardson.
Pot sufficiently stirred?
Richardson actually showed multiple instances of improvement even during the course of individual games when it came to recognizing and attacking coverages that befuddled him prior.Levis and its not close. Richardson has no experience. No football smarts and he's inaccurate. His chances of becoming anything but a bust are slim to none.
the tape I saw of Levis this year I saw some of the worst college receivers I've ever seen. crap routes and NOBODY getting open.Richardson actually showed multiple instances of improvement even during the course of individual games when it came to recognizing and attacking coverages that befuddled him prior.
Don't get me wrong, his profile is still terrifying and an outlier - but "no football smarts" is a bit of disservice to him. He clearly has some understanding and feel for the game.
Levis, on the other hand, regressed in that regard - which is worrisome.
Big Ben | Richardson | Levi | |
Height | 76.9" | 76" | 75.88" |
Weight | 241 lbs | 244 lbs | 229 lbs |
Arms | 31.5" | 32.75" | 32" |
Hands | 9.38" | 10.5" | 10.63" |
40 yards | 4.75 sec | 4.43 sec | |
Vertical leap | 40.5 " | 34" |
Chris Simms typically has a good eye for scouting QB's. Here's his take on Levis.
Great question! Thankfully, we have a clear answer! Marshawn at QB would go a lot like this:<snip>
My extremely bizarre comparison for AR is: What if Marshawn Lynch played QB?
<snip>
You might be fine with Levis in that scenario. But you also have to recognize that in time, you'll also have to pay him market value. Which just doesn't add up. Or, let him walk & repeat the process over.Like many here I'm lower on Levis than the other three, and I see it more like a big three followed by another three. However, I'm also higher on Levis straight up than most here because a rookie QB contract is the best kind of contract to have.
I don't buy that a rookie QB has to be a swing at the lottery or that it sets you back if you miss. You can win with cheap QB contracts like the two best teams in the NFC did last year. I don't expect Levis to ever be a top QB in this league, but could he be a decent QB if we get him back into a similar offensive scheme to his 2021 season, with a good OL, running game and receivers? That doesn't seem unreasonable. He can throw a nice deep ball to keep the safeties honest, and supplement the run game himself with similar running potential to Daniel Jones. In fact, if you look at the Giants giving Jones $40m/yr it seems vastly preferable to give Levis 1/10th of that instead and spend the rest on other positions.
Value is a concern of course, and I'd much rather take McKee at #123 over Levis at #5. If Levis does fall significantly, however, then I hope he's on our board and we can take the opportunity to draft a QB.
Like many here I'm lower on Levis than the other three, and I see it more like a big three followed by another three. However, I'm also higher on Levis straight up than most here because a rookie QB contract is the best kind of contract to have.
I don't buy that a rookie QB has to be a swing at the lottery or that it sets you back if you miss. You can win with cheap QB contracts like the two best teams in the NFC did last year. I don't expect Levis to ever be a top QB in this league, but could he be a decent QB if we get him back into a similar offensive scheme to his 2021 season, with a good OL, running game and receivers? That doesn't seem unreasonable. He can throw a nice deep ball to keep the safeties honest, and supplement the run game himself with similar running potential to Daniel Jones. In fact, if you look at the Giants giving Jones $40m/yr it seems vastly preferable to give Levis 1/10th of that instead and spend the rest on other positions.
Value is a concern of course, and I'd much rather take McKee at #123 over Levis at #5. If Levis does fall significantly, however, then I hope he's on our board and we can take the opportunity to draft a QB.