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TwistedHusky":32bkkpd7 said:The NFL and the NFLPA need to get this fixed.
THE NFL should not be in the enforcement business for a substance that does not materially provide an advantage (save pain management) vs the other teams.
Losing all these players DOES detract from quality of the product on the fields and needlessly guts teams who lose talent contribution without a compensating draft pick for that time period.
I get the NFL does not want some player to spend half their time getting high instead of developing their playing ability - but it should not be all or nothing.
Seems the NFLPA should want this too. Negotiate recreational or medicinal use of Cannabis out of the agreements or make a series of financial fines tied to positive drug tests (maybe on % of contract to prevent guys with big contracts just smoking out?) to provide an incentive for players to abstain.
But all this suspension and removal from the season is overkill.
Mike
That's where I sit. It's funny because it's the Cowboys! 8)Cyrus12":10fwe8y3 said:Because its the Cowboys I say...haha. These guys know the rules, if they can't ply within them they can't play. If someone paid me millions a year with a caveat I can't do drugs then don't do drugs. I do not feel sorry for anyone of these players.
5 years maximum it will be legal everywhere if not less.TwistedHusky":1yu7ylzc said:"Lol.. let's just pretend weed isn't illegal in like 47 states or something.. "
Except it is not. 20+ states have medical allowances.
And just to be clear, I don't take it - but I don't understand the big concern about those that do.
5 years everywhere means just that. I'm not mincing words here. Just watch and learn. It's a Gen Y/Millennial thing vs. The Gen X/and should be already dead generation thing. We don't have issues about marijuana and know how to spoof the piss test.JPatera76":10ow2skt said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
JPatera76":2yguax8s said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
MizzouHawkGal":1xx38r5o said:5 years everywhere means just that. I'm not mincing words here. Just watch and learn. It's a Gen Y/Millennial thing vs. The Gen X/and should be already dead generation thing. We don't have issues about marijuana and know how to spoof the piss test.JPatera76":1xx38r5o said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
King Dog":1cpya0rc said:MizzouHawkGal":1cpya0rc said:5 years everywhere means just that. I'm not mincing words here. Just watch and learn. It's a Gen Y/Millennial thing vs. The Gen X/and should be already dead generation thing. We don't have issues about marijuana and know how to spoof the piss test.JPatera76":1cpya0rc said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
"and know how to spoof the piss test"
Lol. Obviously not.
It's not hard to do guy. There are tried and true ways to flush your system you just have to be in the know. Or what? You think nobody smokes weed and works a real job? Everyone in my generation and before does it all the time. And the generation after mine? Yeah keep up. You have to piss test to get any job beyond McDonald's that isn't under the table or independent contracting and similar, last time I checked and who knows? Possibly McDonald's etc. changed their requirements.King Dog":26f00xzg said:MizzouHawkGal":26f00xzg said:5 years everywhere means just that. I'm not mincing words here. Just watch and learn. It's a Gen Y/Millennial thing vs. The Gen X/and should be already dead generation thing. We don't have issues about marijuana and know how to spoof the piss test.JPatera76":26f00xzg said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
"and know how to spoof the piss test"
Lol. Obviously not.
TwistedHusky":2tpgqb8l said:The NFL and the NFLPA need to get this fixed.
THE NFL should not be in the enforcement business for a substance that does not materially provide an advantage (save pain management) vs the other teams.
Losing all these players DOES detract from quality of the product on the fields and needlessly guts teams who lose talent contribution without a compensating draft pick for that time period.
I get the NFL does not want some player to spend half their time getting high instead of developing their playing ability - but it should not be all or nothing.
Seems the NFLPA should want this too. Negotiate recreational or medicinal use of Cannabis out of the agreements or make a series of financial fines tied to positive drug tests (maybe on % of contract to prevent guys with big contracts just smoking out?) to provide an incentive for players to abstain.
But all this suspension and removal from the season is overkill.
Mike
MizzouHawkGal":d7mjsxzy said:It's not hard to do guy. There are tried and true ways to flush your system you just have to be in the know. Or what? You think nobody smokes weed and works a real job? Everyone in my generation and before does it all the time. And the generation after mine? Yeah keep up. You have to piss test to get any job beyond McDonald's that isn't under the table or independent contracting and similar, last time I checked and who knows? Possibly McDonald's etc. changed their requirements.King Dog":d7mjsxzy said:MizzouHawkGal":d7mjsxzy said:5 years everywhere means just that. I'm not mincing words here. Just watch and learn. It's a Gen Y/Millennial thing vs. The Gen X/and should be already dead generation thing. We don't have issues about marijuana and know how to spoof the piss test.JPatera76":d7mjsxzy said:Doesn't Matter that is Legal in however many states. As long as its Illegal on the Federal level its illegal. State doesn't supersede Federal. And if an employer says no go then that's the employers choice and they're protected by it.
"and know how to spoof the piss test"
Lol. Obviously not.
Rob12":7s6oz6qy said:TwistedHusky":7s6oz6qy said:The NFL and the NFLPA need to get this fixed.
THE NFL should not be in the enforcement business for a substance that does not materially provide an advantage (save pain management) vs the other teams.
Losing all these players DOES detract from quality of the product on the fields and needlessly guts teams who lose talent contribution without a compensating draft pick for that time period.
I get the NFL does not want some player to spend half their time getting high instead of developing their playing ability - but it should not be all or nothing.
Seems the NFLPA should want this too. Negotiate recreational or medicinal use of Cannabis out of the agreements or make a series of financial fines tied to positive drug tests (maybe on % of contract to prevent guys with big contracts just smoking out?) to provide an incentive for players to abstain.
But all this suspension and removal from the season is overkill.
Mike
How can recreational use get approved when federally, it's an illegal substance? At the state level, it's illegal in 46 or 47 starts.
A CBA agreement in a professional sports league doesn't make it any less illegal.
I agree in large part about medicinal usage, though. But that's on the NFLPA to put in the work and get the research done so it can get approved.