Pretty sure that if Quinn was our D Coordinator last year...

[lukerguy]

....ATL doesn't come back and kick a FG to win the game

I know these boards are simply jammed full of similar threads, so I apologize if this has already come up.

Quinn plays more man, and is quite a bit more aggressive. Gus used to sit back and we were always getting beat on 3rd and long. I also find that Quinn mixes up coverage a bit better with more guys on the line (even if he doesn't rush more than 3)

 

[HawkFan72]

It's hard to tell for sure until we get in a similar situation (close shootout with the opposing team driving with a chance to win). Then we'll see how Quinn calls his "prevent".

 

[Sports Hernia]

Agreed! ......and I'll leave it at that.

 

[Seafan]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

 

[bestfightstory]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

:th2thumbs:

 

[Hawks46]

I will say this, in interviews Quinn seems very much more direct and aggressive.

Bradley didn't seem to have near that amount of energy. So far, I'm liking Quinn more, and it's only partially due to results.

 

[joeseahawks]

If our front 7 was healthy in Atlanta, we would have won the game.
We are deep. We are aggressive, we want to win bad ...

 

[lukerguy]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

Not necessarily. We still lacked interior pressure that Bennett and Quinn (as a function of more stunts, rushers and different looks) provide this year. I remember when we had Irvin and Clemons all healthy, we still lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd and long. Don't you guys remember? it was painful.

 

[lukerguy]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

Not necessarily. We still lacked interior pressure that Bennett and Quinn (as a function of more stunts, rushers and different looks) provide this year. I remember when we had Irvin and Clemons all healthy, we still lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd and long. Don't you guys remember? it was painful.

 

[w00t]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

Not necessarily. We still lacked interior pressure that Bennett and Quinn (as a function of more stunts, rushers and different looks) provide this year. I remember when we had Irvin and Clemons all healthy, we still lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd and long. Don't you guys remember? it was painful.

usually when it's 3rd and long, the opposing team got the first down lol i remember this

 

[DavidSeven]

Who knows...I don't think Gus was well-prepared for end of game situations either, but at the end of the day, he was D-Coordinator for the #1 scoring defense in 2012 and the players rave about him. Can't take that away from him.

 

[seahawks08]

If the ATL game had started around noon instead of 10 AM, we would have been aggressive and already worn out ATL. There was no way in my opinion that we were beating their will in the 2nd quarter, but half the team was asleep. We could not even set a play up in the last few seconds of the first half and we ran out of time. All these add up in my opinion.

Dan Quinn would have still made some decisions in his scheme where there could have been a blow out. Who knows, in hindsight, we cannot predict.. or may be we would have not even made it to playoffs as we did not have Cliff Avrill and Benett last year.

 

[Jazzhawk]

To answer your question directly, I think we would have seen a defense more aggressive at the end of a game, and yes, we would have held off Atlanta at the end, all things being equal. But they aren't so who really knows. I do think Quinn is calling a better overall game, more aggressive in the man/man or press coverage. But then, maybe it's because Thurmond's abilities are finally there to be utilized. Remember please that we had an aging Trufant last year that got carved up by Ryan.

 

[justafan]

I love what Quinn is doing with this D, they on another level but Bradley did a hell of a job.He deserves alot of credit.We lost 3 games where the defense allowed 20 pnts or less.I would be surprised if we lost a game that way this year.Those games you need to win.We win 2 of those and the playoffs are totally different.
Usually our losses had more to do with the first 58 mins than the last 2.The Atl game he blitz on the final drive and it didnt work.It happens.But even so, the first 30 mins lost the game not the last 1.Thats just the one you remember.
When it comes to D I trust PC,Quinn and Bradley they know the odds, the statistics and they know what works.They proved it all year.

 

[therealjohncarlson]

I will say this, in interviews Quinn seems very much more direct and aggressive.

Bradley didn't seem to have near that amount of energy. So far, I'm liking Quinn more, and it's only partially due to results.

NO ENERGY!? How about this for energy!?

[youtube]ofv2MgMoFG8[/youtube]

 

[largenutz]

This vid is super cool- I noticed a young Michael Bennett in the background of that Gus Bradley pep talk! So glad hes back with us- Was super impressed with his play vs SF!

 

[Sarlacc83]

If Jones and Clemons had been healthy the Hawks would have won the Super Bowl. That's why we have Bennett and Avril this season. What a huge difference they make for the overall defense.

Not necessarily. We still lacked interior pressure that Bennett and Quinn (as a function of more stunts, rushers and different looks) provide this year. I remember when we had Irvin and Clemons all healthy, we still lacked the ability to stop teams on 3rd and long. Don't you guys remember? it was painful.

That's why he added Jones in there, as well. Jones wasn't too shabby with the interior penetration before he got hurt. (That's what she said?) I still think that if we just had Clemons, though, we go to the SB, because the running game hurt us more in ATL than the passing game did, IMO.

 

[jlwaters1]

....ATL doesn't come back and kick a FG to win the game

I know these boards are simply jammed full of similar threads, so I apologize if this has already come up.

Quinn plays more man, and is quite a bit more aggressive. Gus used to sit back and we were always getting beat on 3rd and long. I also find that Quinn mixes up coverage a bit better with more guys on the line (even if he doesn't rush more than 3)

:roll: We BLITZED on both plays in the ATL game (We were not in a prevent defense), how much more aggression do you want? The fact is A) We didn't get any impact from the pressures we sent. B) Trufant played like a rookie on that first completion. He played too aggresively on the underneith route. IF he would have played like a vet and dropped back further the window for Ryan to hit wouldn't have been completely wide open. Instead he doesn't drop deeper and plays the flat and it's a 20 yard completion.
C) Finally, as I'm sure Wagner would be the first to admit. His missed tackle on Gonzo was also a major factor. If he tackles him as he catches it it would have been a much more difficult FG. Instead he misses and Gonzo get's 5+ more yards.
I do like Quinn though and am excited to see if we can't keep our season total in points UNDER 14 by the end of the Jacksonville game. (10 points allowed in 2 games is unbelievable.)

 

[lukerguy]

....ATL doesn't come back and kick a FG to win the game

I know these boards are simply jammed full of similar threads, so I apologize if this has already come up.

Quinn plays more man, and is quite a bit more aggressive. Gus used to sit back and we were always getting beat on 3rd and long. I also find that Quinn mixes up coverage a bit better with more guys on the line (even if he doesn't rush more than 3)

:roll: We BLITZED on both plays in the ATL game (We were not in a prevent defense), how much more aggression do you want? The fact is A) We didn't get any impact from the pressures we sent. B) Trufant played like a rookie on that first completion. He played too aggresively on the underneith route. IF he would have played like a vet and dropped back further the window for Ryan to hit wouldn't have been completely wide open. Instead he doesn't drop deeper and plays the flat and it's a 20 yard completion.
C) Finally, as I'm sure Wagner would be the first to admit. His missed tackle on Gonzo was also a major factor. If he tackles him as he catches it it would have been a much more difficult FG. Instead he misses and Gonzo get's 5+ more yards.
I do like Quinn though and am excited to see if we can't keep our season total in points UNDER 14 by the end of the Jacksonville game. (10 points allowed in 2 games is unbelievable.)

You are right. Gus sent 5 both times. However, his personnel package included Guy biltzing both those times and a soft cover 3. I am suggested Quinn would play press man, showing 6 on the line, dropping at least 1 guy into intermediate coverage, with perhaps a stunt up the middle. Keep ET over the top and trust your corners.