Hawk-Lock
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Looks like the next big time QB, NFL is in good hands with Watson and Mahomes.
I called it from his senior year in college on the 49ers board (Before I got banned due to Nikkina's overly sensitive ass over a questionable Patrick Willis ESPN Bodies picture showcasing a heroically sized schlong blocked out by censor text). Got laughed at by supposed QB gurus and high school and college coaches for saying how good he could be.Hawk-Lock":2dfz1utx said:Looks like the next big time QB, NFL is in good hands with Watson and Mahomes.
5_Golden_Rings":29jp91c7 said:I called it from his senior year in college on the 49ers board (Before I got banned due to Nikkina's overly sensitive ass over a questionable Patrick Willis ESPN Bodies picture showcasing a heroically sized schlong blocked out by censor text). Got laughed at by supposed QB gurus and high school and college coaches for saying how good he could be.Hawk-Lock":29jp91c7 said:Looks like the next big time QB, NFL is in good hands with Watson and Mahomes.
All the things I pointed out that transferred to the NFL, like arm strength, accuracy, anticipatory throwing, navigating a pocket, looking off defenders, throwing accurately from awkward angles, throwing accurately from a congested pocket, all these things he showed in college, and they dismissed it because of the scheme he ran. I tried to explain how he didn't often stick to the scheme in the first place, and that he consistently made elite NFL level throws, and yet, they claimed he'd be a bust.
I wanted him at number 2 overall when the 49ers traded down to get Thomas. I'd trade any QB in the NFL right now for him. Any. Because the best ones are going to retire in three or four years, and he is going to surpass every single QB under 30 right now. All of them.
He is a Brett Favre clone and is going to win at least one MVP. Probably multiple. Feels good to say I told you so.
And NO defenses won't "figure him out." You can't figure out a rocket launcher arm combined with natural pocket comfort and a natural sense of timing. You can just try to confuse him. But with a coach like Reid, good luck with that working more than a game or two.
His body of work in college was off the charts. His body of work in the NFL so far is off the charts. His physical ability is unquestionably Hall of Fame level elite, and not in the sense of Jaws claiming Kaepernick was; in the sense of John Elway coming out of college.chris98251":159tjj20 said:Ried made McNabb look good also, lets see his body of work before we call him the second coming of Brett Farve.
5_Golden_Rings":2x0cc4g8 said:His body of work in college was off the charts. His body of work in the NFL so far is off the charts. His physical ability is unquestionably Hall of Fame level elite, and not in the sense of Jaws claiming Kaepernick was; in the sense of John Elway coming out of college.chris98251":2x0cc4g8 said:Ried made McNabb look good also, lets see his body of work before we call him the second coming of Brett Farve.
If you are afraid to admit that at least the raw talent is astronomical WITHOUT any caveats (unlike Kaepernick, who always had a slow release and was never a comfortable pocket passer), you're too conservative.
Then add his family background, with TWO big time professional athletes in his life to guide him from childhood, and you know he has the character make up to be great as well, and really, I'd bet my children's lives that within a couple years he's going to be elite for years to come- if he isn't already.
Only weakness he has is aggressiveness. Just wait. This dude is going to be the best QB in the league as soon as Brady, Rodgers and Brees retire.
By “off the charts” I don’t mean statistically (although he was off the charts statistically). I mean in percentage of his throws that would have been difficult even for NFL qbs. I’m presuming you’ve watched his college tape? Compare itnto Watson, for example. Mahomes college tape makes Watson look pedestrian. He looked like a Favre clone in college. That’s what I meant by off the charts.chris98251":qbfbj8ng said:5_Golden_Rings":qbfbj8ng said:His body of work in college was off the charts. His body of work in the NFL so far is off the charts. His physical ability is unquestionably Hall of Fame level elite, and not in the sense of Jaws claiming Kaepernick was; in the sense of John Elway coming out of college.chris98251":qbfbj8ng said:Ried made McNabb look good also, lets see his body of work before we call him the second coming of Brett Farve.
If you are afraid to admit that at least the raw talent is astronomical WITHOUT any caveats (unlike Kaepernick, who always had a slow release and was never a comfortable pocket passer), you're too conservative.
Then add his family background, with TWO big time professional athletes in his life to guide him from childhood, and you know he has the character make up to be great as well, and really, I'd bet my children's lives that within a couple years he's going to be elite for years to come- if he isn't already.
Only weakness he has is aggressiveness. Just wait. This dude is going to be the best QB in the league as soon as Brady, Rodgers and Brees retire.
Most first round picks at QB are off the Charts in College, it's why they are first round picks, even some that have off the charts body of works in college fall into later rounds, guys like Montana and Wilson, you should know that.
Cyrus12":2ydbdom5 said:And we tried to trade up to get him...guessing russ would of been elsewhere if that happened
vigilantgrrl":343l5syr said:God, I would take Mahomes or Watson any day over Wilson.
5_Golden_Rings":obuar753 said:By “off the charts” I don’t mean statistically (although he was off the charts statistically). I mean in percentage of his throws that would have been difficult even for NFL qbs. I’m presuming you’ve watched his college tape? Compare itnto Watson, for example. Mahomes college tape makes Watson look pedestrian. He looked like a Favre clone in college. That’s what I meant by off the charts.chris98251":obuar753 said:5_Golden_Rings":obuar753 said:His body of work in college was off the charts. His body of work in the NFL so far is off the charts. His physical ability is unquestionably Hall of Fame level elite, and not in the sense of Jaws claiming Kaepernick was; in the sense of John Elway coming out of college.chris98251":obuar753 said:Ried made McNabb look good also, lets see his body of work before we call him the second coming of Brett Farve.
If you are afraid to admit that at least the raw talent is astronomical WITHOUT any caveats (unlike Kaepernick, who always had a slow release and was never a comfortable pocket passer), you're too conservative.
Then add his family background, with TWO big time professional athletes in his life to guide him from childhood, and you know he has the character make up to be great as well, and really, I'd bet my children's lives that within a couple years he's going to be elite for years to come- if he isn't already.
Only weakness he has is aggressiveness. Just wait. This dude is going to be the best QB in the league as soon as Brady, Rodgers and Brees retire.
Most first round picks at QB are off the Charts in College, it's why they are first round picks, even some that have off the charts body of works in college fall into later rounds, guys like Montana and Wilson, you should know that.
Statistically speaking, Garoppolo was “off the charts” in college. But he will never be half the qb Mahomes can be, because Mahomes can throw a ball 80 yards from his knees, AND he can throw it sixty while in a congested pocket under duress and have it still hit the target in stride.
I’m tellig you, man. He’s the next great one, and he’s just getting started.