Official: Seahawks Cut CB Cary Williams

[jammerhawk]

If reports were true that he was being a pain in the rear after being demoted then good riddance.

It was clear however that he wasn't understanding what was needed from him in the Hawks pass D and was a liability.

Ultimately the team is better off w/o him and admitting their mistake in signing him. I really like what Shead has done since he replaced Williams and doubt that Williams would have ever got his job back. As such Williams was in the way of the young guys and his roster slot was more valuable than he was to the team going forward.

To all the negative Nancy's you don't make an omelette w/o breaking some eggs and Williams turned out to be a mistake that was recognized and dealt with effectively. Harvin agitated and was a trouble maker, he got cut despite the team needing to eat a big contract and some significant dead money basically William all in all was a swing for the fences as a supposed solid press corner. he just didn't ever get what he was supposed to do or not do. Williams dead money will prorate to next year.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Finally, why did they even sign him in the first place. Ive also heard this guy is a locker room problem, so that might be another issue with him right now.

Because you had a crap ton of DB's coming off injury. Didn't mean they had to get CW, but that's the reason.
They were wrong in the guy they chose, they cut bait and moved on.

 

[RussB]

Finally, why did they even sign him in the first place.

It's really mind blowing that you have asked this question dozens of times.

We badly needed a corner, he fit the size requirement for our secondary and I'm sure the FO felt they could coach him up similar to how they saved Brandon Browner's career. It failed, they moved on.

Yea .....no shit. Its just funny how out of all the CB's they chose literally the worst option.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

Small chance Williams asked for his release, being inactive probaby hurtin his pride. If so he might have forfieted some of that future SB to get a chance to sign with another team and get playing time or just be with his fam.

 

[Jeremy517]

Yea .....no shit. Its just funny how out of all the CB's they chose literally the worst option.

Brandon Browner has been worse this year.

 

[Basis4day]

Finally, why did they even sign him in the first place.

It's really mind blowing that you have asked this question dozens of times.

We badly needed a corner, he fit the size requirement for our secondary and I'm sure the FO felt they could coach him up similar to how they saved Brandon Browner's career. It failed, they moved on.

Yea .....no shit. Its just funny how out of all the CB's they chose literally the worst option.

It wasn't the worst option at the time. It didn't pan out now.

 

[Year of The Hawk]

I feel like this signing has had the most to do with any chemistry issues the team has had in the secondary. Kam likely saw how much money Cary was making after watching him in training camp and couldn't believe the front office would pay him that much, thus sparking his holdout when he did it. I gotta think the Legion of Boom comes down to respect, and if the front office is going to sign someone to be in the Legion they better have respect of the Legion, seems pretty clear Cary did not fit that bill.

I think this was the biggest issue. There was a Earl interview several weeks ago and he alluded to someone not wanting things bad enough (or something like that). IMHO I think he and others were not happy with Cary and he was not either hard working or a team player (or both). I find it hard to believe that if someone was trying there best and working hard at improving but just not getting it yet they would not be dropped so quickly. Maybe benched but not dropped. I believe he was a poison for the secondary and that has been crux of chemistry problem. Now that we have two games under our belt with current secondary I feel the LOB will be back to who they once were.

I cant wait until the future when one or several players from our current team writes a book about things.

 

[RussB]

Finally, why did they even sign him in the first place.

It's really mind blowing that you have asked this question dozens of times.

We badly needed a corner, he fit the size requirement for our secondary and I'm sure the FO felt they could coach him up similar to how they saved Brandon Browner's career. It failed, they moved on.

Yea .....no shit. Its just funny how out of all the CB's they chose literally the worst option.

It wasn't the worst option at the time. It didn't pan out now.

Antonio Cromartie, Chris Culliver, Alan Ball were still available at the time. Who knows if they would have accepted deals but no way are they worse than cary williams. It doesnt really matter now that hes been cut and we have a solid Cb2.

 

[chris98251]

Did he even make the trip to Minnesota, Earl said they were having fun again in his post game.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Finally, why did they even sign him in the first place.

It's really mind blowing that you have asked this question dozens of times.

We badly needed a corner, he fit the size requirement for our secondary and I'm sure the FO felt they could coach him up similar to how they saved Brandon Browner's career. It failed, they moved on.

Yea .....no shit. Its just funny how out of all the CB's they chose literally the worst option.

It wasn't the worst option at the time. It didn't pan out now.

Given the money situation (they weren't giving up BMax money) and the injury situation, it was probably much closer to the best option at the time.

As has been noted, it didn't work out. This is something that occurs in pro sports.

 

[Basis4day]

Antonio Cromartie, Chris Culliver, Alan Ball were still available at the time. Who knows if they would have accepted deals but no way are they worse than cary williams. It doesnt really matter now that hes been cut and we have a solid Cb2.

Ill repost an older response i had to your suggestions (Including other names you mentioned then). To summarize, you need to look at the options at the time:

Culliver is relatively undersized for an outside CB in our scheme and signed for 32 million with 16 guaranteed.

Cox was a Seahawk (twice) and cut twice. Third time is the charm? At a certain point you move on. Also small for an outside corner in our system.

Cromartie would have been interesting, but he signed his contract with the Jets after they signed Revis. Playing with him again was clearly appealing. He also hasn't exactly been lighting it up and has surrendered 6 tds.

That leaves Alan Ball. Other than being cheap, i'm not sure what is so special about him.

None of these players, to me, represented a clearly better option than Cary Williams at the time.

 

[KitsapGuy]

They are so turned off of Williams that they are paying him $3.5 million guaranteed this season to be inactive and in street clothes last weekend against the Steelers and possibly inactive at Minnesota. His contract is not guaranteed beyond this season, so Shead could have the job entering next offseason, too.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nf ... rylink=cpy

 

[Hasselbeck]

Antonio Cromartie, Chris Culliver, Alan Ball were still available at the time. Who knows if they would have accepted deals but no way are they worse than cary williams. It doesnt really matter now that hes been cut and we have a solid Cb2.

:lol:

Your suggestions include two guys that got paid more than Cary and Alan Ball who is nothing special.

Again.. you fail to grasp that we had injuries to literally every corner on the roster going into the offseason aside from the guy that was about to make millions in FA. They absolutely had to address that given the uncertainty at that position.

I'm sure the FO wishes the deal worked out better, but it didn't.. so time to move on.

 

[xgeoff]

Similar to Percy, at least they can admit it was a mistake and cut their loses.

Yeah, I do admire this about the FO. It IS weird to see guys like Williams and Drew Nowak who, at the start of the season, are deemed good enough to start a bunch of games, and then are let go. It seems weird, but I admire their willingness to seemingly move on from mistakes.

If we had room on the active roster, I think we could have used him as a blitzer. Remember that great play he had against the Rams in the opening game? I was so psyched. I think he'd do a better job rushing the passer than Bruce Irvin does...

 

[Jville]

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[JSeahawks]

He did have one shining moment as a Seahawk...

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[Basis4day]

If we had room on the active roster, I think we could have used him as a blitzer. Remember that great play he had against the Rams in the opening game? I was so psyched. I think he'd do a better job rushing the passer than Bruce Irvin does...

Not sure if serious or sarcastic. Cary Williams had a free shot on the QB that play. And be a better pass rusher than irvin? Huh?

 

[Jville]

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[bjornanderson21]

Im getting so sick of posters on here giving Pete and John a pat on the back for cutting a bad player they gave a "big" contract to.

Is it better to cut bait? Yes.

Does it excuse them from REPEATEDLY giving money to players who aren't worth it? NOT ONE BIT.

If i stole $100 from you and gave $20 of it back, would you give me a pat on the back for returning $20 or would you be mad that i still stole $80?


Pete and John have done a HORRIBLE job of giving contracts to players from other teams. The best they have been able to do is get a small discount from Bennett and Avril on "prove it" deals that were still significant.

There's probably only 1 or 2 GMs in the NFL who have been as bad as Schneider at giving out contracts, and im being generous.

Schneider was good for 2 or 3 years, but he has been absolutely horrible the last 2-3 years.

But don't let his horrible trades and free agent signings and mediocre drafts stop you from patting him on the back...

 

[Tech Worlds]

Im getting so sick of posters on here giving Pete and John a pat on the back for cutting a bad player they gave a "big" contract to.

Is it better to cut bait? Yes.

Does it excuse them from REPEATEDLY giving money to players who aren't worth it? NOT ONE BIT.

If i stole $100 from you can gave $20 of it back, would you give me a pat on the back for returning $20 or would you be mad that i still stole $80?


Pete and John have done a HORRIBLE job of giving contracts to players from other teams. The best they have been able to do is get a small discount from Bennett and Avril on "prove it" deals that were still significant.

There's probably only 1 or 2 GMs in the NFL who have been as bad as Schneider at giving out contracts, and im being generous.

Schneider was good for 2 or 3 years, but he has been absolutely horrible the last 2-3 years.

But don't let his horrible trades and free agent signings and mediocre drafts stop you from patting him on the back...

You get upset easily.