No Fans? No Football.

[Ozzy]

TV revenue blows out stadium revenue. I would watch if they played in a deserted parking lot and used flags at this point. I hope we have fans and I think we will, but I'll take anything.

 

[DanejaHawk]

I'm not a season ticket holder, but if I were I would be wondering about game refunds for each game I was not allowed to attend.

I've been told repeatedly by the customer service folks that there will be refunds for games that are cancelled or that fans cannot attend.

From a different team, college, also American football, I was shown a diagram of a major stadium with six foot distancing. It had groups of fours and twos, with two or three empty rows -- he just scrolled it around on his phone, didn't want me looking at it super closely as it wasn't and isn't public -- and with multiple empty seats between groups.

He said the stadium capacity was roughly 20% of the full capacity with that diagram... and as he put it to me, "how do I tell the guy that's #1 on our list that he can go but the #2 guy has to wait until next week? or tell the guy with 50 yard seats that he only gets them for one game, and can go to one other but it'll have to be in the nosebleeds?"

If there are fans, and restricted capacity, it may make things complicated and really ugly. I could see teams just declaring that they aren't going to have fans period rather than deal with the BS. I could also see them doing a completely fresh round of ticketing starting with the folks with the highest priority, and have everyone pick seats again, or opt to not go, with no penalty... not sure how that would work with charter seats, but they'd figure it out.

I don't know if I want to go to a Seahawks game live (charter seat holder, haven't missed any regular season or playoff game since October 12 1998 the day after my wedding) if the building is 20% full and I have to worry about getting the virus besides. Simply spreading us out isn't going to necessarily lower the risk to zero, unlike staying home.

Sigh. I think the season ticket bill was over $15k -- we have eight seats split between three families -- and they've already got all our money at this point, I think. It's not a good situation, at all. The uncertainty is killing me.

I have 4 seats and at this point I have very little desire to go. I just don't think the experience will be that enjoyable. We pay a lot of money and I don't want to pay that money for a lesser experience. I also don't want to deal with public transportation and the effort it's going to take getting in or out of the stadium. I think if they start asking the season ticket holders there will be quite a few like me who just don't want to deal with it this year. That might make there job of choosing who will be there easier. I'm fine with them rolling the money I've already paid over to next year.

That being said, I still want football and will be happy with whatever they come up with to make it happen this year.

This about sums up the lady and I's feelings on it as well. We've got two seats, club level on the South 48 yard line. We love our seats and will never give them up. We love the live game atmosphere and energy. But this past season it was already starting to wear on us. Getting in and out of there for prime time games. Dealing with public transpo. Add in the inherent issues with the pandemic and the idea of having to pay the same to enjoy a lesser experience to attend, and you can just count me in as a hard pass. I can enjoy the games from the comfort of my own home at that point.

 

[Appyhawk]

I noticed, day before yesterday I think, 2 Dallas players tested positive. Some OU players as well. I expect to see more of same in the near future. Also see that at least 6 states have set new records for daily positives. This leads me to suspect we may be in for more disappointment in terms of timely resumption of practice and play.

 

[mrblitz]

if they go without fans, i'd like to see the nfl and the networks pony up to make the television experience better than ever.

 

[Mad Dog]

I dont know man. Maybe I can go back to Afghan for a third time and just ask Muhammed. What is your point? That you are scared to go to a game? Why? In fear you will be breathed on? Come on. I work everyday and I'm out and about. Not that big of a deal. I keep my space, but then again...I did that before all this bs. Just out of respect for other peoples space. Anyway...why dont we go to a game and find out what the fatalities end up being or if me and you ever get sick. I never said there was an acceptable number or acceptable death. Any death to me is heart breaking. Not just covid crap.

I think we will get a great idea of the safety of outdoor gatherings in the very near future given the racial protests this last week or so. If cases dramatically spike, you can kiss full stadiums goodbye.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I noticed, day before yesterday I think, 2 Dallas players tested positive. Some OU players as well. I expect to see more of same in the near future. Also see that at least 6 states have set new records for daily positives. This leads me to suspect we may be in for more disappointment in terms of timely resumption of practice and play.

Sports news reported that at least four players from Dallas and Houston tested positive. Alabama and University of Houston have also acknowledged they've had people test positive.

 

[xray]

I noticed, day before yesterday I think, 2 Dallas players tested positive. Some OU players as well. I expect to see more of same in the near future. Also see that at least 6 states have set new records for daily positives. This leads me to suspect we may be in for more disappointment in terms of timely resumption of practice and play.

Sports news reported that at least four players from Dallas and Houston tested positive. Alabama and University of Houston have also acknowledged they've had people test positive.

Tip of the iceberg ...chit . Not looking good now for college football either ...might as well move to Canada ... where porn is the national sport . :sarcasm_off:

 

[Uncle Si]

If NFL wants a football season it will need to lockdown its,players. A few,positive tests aren't an issue when you have thousands of employees in the league.

Soccer is being played across Europe now. It wasn't THAT hard to get it going

 

[cdn hawk fan]

Spoke with my season ticket rep and there will be an email coming out soon Apparently to all season ticket holders regarding the season and options it will provide. I reached out to him today as I am here in Canada and well, our border does not look like it will be opening any time soon. It will be tough if not impossible for me to make it to all the games if they allows fans at the games without a few things happening first.
I want to so badly see our hawks out on the field but it maybe a challenge to see them live.

 

[ZagHawk]

I delayed my final payment to the end of this month. Regretting that I'm gonna make the payment in full only to find out the season is cancelled and they will hold onto that money until next year...or offer a refund if i"m willing to give up my Season Tickets (which I am not). I mean I don't know for sure obviously, but from every other event I've seen cancelled they do just about everything they can for you to let them keep your money. I have relatively cheap seats, but hey I wouldn't mind having that refund if the season is cancelled as some cushion during this time of uncertainty.

 

[hulbe]

From NBC sports

San Francisco’s season ticket holders can opt out of 2020 while retaining their rights and tenure for next season. Fans can get a full refund for the 2020 season or a credit toward the 2021 season.

“In the event we have limited capacity at Levi’s Stadium this season, tickets will be made available on a game-by-game basis at the season ticket rate,” the team wrote to season ticket holders. “Members electing to credit 2020 payments to the 2021 season will receive preferred access to available tickets.”

 

[BocciHawk]

From NBC sports

San Francisco’s season ticket holders can opt out of 2020 while retaining their rights and tenure for next season. Fans can get a full refund for the 2020 season or a credit toward the 2021 season.

“In the event we have limited capacity at Levi’s Stadium this season, tickets will be made available on a game-by-game basis at the season ticket rate,” the team wrote to season ticket holders. “Members electing to credit 2020 payments to the 2021 season will receive preferred access to available tickets.”

Same thing for the Ravens

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/20 ... e-deferred

 

[FPD]

A photo taken 102 years ago is as relevant as ever.



Fans at a Georgia Tech football game during 1918 pandemic. The photo was taken by graduate Thomas Carter.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/heal ... 04a12842cb

Nice find Bruce! It would be an extraordinary sight to see. But I think they'll play without fans, at least to begin with. The differences in camera angles and such should be interesting too.

 

[hawks85]

Well Aros, if the season happens, there are several outcomes.

1 The stadiums capacity will be reduced to perhaps 15K fans, at least 6 feet apart.

2 Die hard fans forced out of lower bowl seats will pony up serious coin to move up a level. :mrgreen:

3 Concession lines will become longer, but with fewer people in line. Same for restrooms. :shock:

4 Die hards simply say screw it, i am going. I might wear a mask, or not. Hawk football is more important than the chance of exposure. :irishdrinkers:

5 The NFL money machine takes over, fills stadiums to capacity, reason being, if a current ticketed fan gets sick, there are 3 ready to replace them. :sarcasm_on:


tongue in cheek post.

Can you imagine if #5 happens it's gonna look like a scene from the Twilight Zone with everyone wearing mask's.

 

[kf3339]

I can't stop thinking about this.

If the NFL wants to proceed with the 2020 season even if it means no fans in the stands, I have to say...

NOPE.

As much as I want Seattle Seahawks football this Fall, if it means without fans, no thanks. There is no other professional sport that needs the energy of the fans in the stands other than the NFL to me. Baseball? Meh. Sure, go ahead. It wouldn't be that different without fans. But imagine the Seahawks playing a critical division game against the Rams or 49ers in late December...

To an empty stadium.

Puh-leeeeeeze.

It would be like watching practice every week, even knowing the games counted. How surreal. How, um, yuck.

So here I am. A season ticket holder since 1997 saying, if the solution is playing games to empty stadiums this Fall then forget it. I'll wait it out until 2021 thank you very much.

Yep, the more we know about the virus status means this is the best option. Hard to accept, but the right choice.