NFL - Cable only "threat"

[mikeak]

I thought this was an interesting read about the claimed threat of Aereo

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/18/technol ... ?hpt=hp_t2

I think Aereo is purposely using loopholes in the laws and they may win short-term through the court system but I would expect long-term FCC regulations to stop their business. While the FCC currently says this isn't their problem I expect long term Congress will make it their problem but we shall see

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Hell, free-TV baseball is already pretty much dead. One random game a week ruined by Joe Buck? No thanks. The bulk of the playoffs on TBS?!? That's one foot in the grave for free teevee already.

On KJR a few weeks ago, I heard Furness mention that the only thing that sells ads on teevee any more, in the tivo, roku, slingbox, gadget-of-the-week era is sports programming. Because it's the only thing out there that's live. If that's true, than over-the-air teevee is hurting pretty badly as it stands.

 

[Axx]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

 

[Cartire]

If you guys read up on it, it's actually quite interesting.

Aereo rents you an antenna and DVR that they house for you. You can only get broadcast channels and you have to live in the broadcast area. Lower courts have already sided with aereo. Don't know why NFL is getting all bent outta shape. It's already free broadcast tv.

 

[CPHawk]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

 

[-The Glove-]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

Say what?

 

[SalishHawkFan]

The leagues also wrote that Aereo is employing "technological chicanery" to erode the rights of content owners.

The only "technological chicanery" is the theft of the public domain that is our free airwaves. Corporations treat them like they are their private property and the courts approve this theft. THAT'S the only technological chicanery. Aereo gives us back what is legally ours to begin with.

 

[Evil_Shenanigans]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

Say what?

Boxing maybe?

 

[mikeak]

The leagues also wrote that Aereo is employing "technological chicanery" to erode the rights of content owners.

The only "technological chicanery" is the theft of the public domain that is our free airwaves. Corporations treat them like they are their private property and the courts approve this theft. THAT'S the only technological chicanery. Aereo gives us back what is legally ours to begin with.

Oh come on - they put the antennas in one place where people don't live and then you look at it through the computer and it is supposed to be legal because there is a mini antenna sitting somewhere else. It is completely going around the rules and that is all there is.

The free airways are there if you live within reach of a station. If Aereo provided a service that extended a network say you lived within 50 miles of the local station but in a valley so you couldn't get the signal then I would get it. They are not doing that since there is no money in doing that......

 

[Cartire]

The leagues also wrote that Aereo is employing "technological chicanery" to erode the rights of content owners.

The only "technological chicanery" is the theft of the public domain that is our free airwaves. Corporations treat them like they are their private property and the courts approve this theft. THAT'S the only technological chicanery. Aereo gives us back what is legally ours to begin with.

Oh come on - they put the antennas in one place where people don't live and then you look at it through the computer and it is supposed to be legal because there is a mini antenna sitting somewhere else. It is completely going around the rules and that is all there is.

The free airways are there if you live within reach of a station. If Aereo provided a service that extended a network say you lived within 50 miles of the local station but in a valley so you couldn't get the signal then I would get it. They are not doing that since there is no money in doing that......

Dude, what's the difference between buying an antenna and DVR, or just renting one from someone and they stream it to you? It's not going around the rules at all. One antenna per subscriber, and you have to be in the broadcast area. Absolutely no different then just buying it yourself. This is a great idea that they have, and like usual, greedy networks want a piece because they think they can, not because they are actually entitled to it.

Lower courts have already decided this as well. The NFL/MLB threats are bogus at best.

 

[Seahawkfan80]

I thought it was interesting the last couple of years NFL channel broadcast the late game on Thanksgiving. Now there is a game on all of the big 3 networks...CBS, FOX, NBC....Poor abc is gonna have to go with a dog show or something.

 

[ClumsyLurk]

The leagues also wrote that Aereo is employing "technological chicanery" to erode the rights of content owners.

The only "technological chicanery" is the theft of the public domain that is our free airwaves. Corporations treat them like they are their private property and the courts approve this theft. THAT'S the only technological chicanery. Aereo gives us back what is legally ours to begin with.

Oh come on - they put the antennas in one place where people don't live and then you look at it through the computer and it is supposed to be legal because there is a mini antenna sitting somewhere else. It is completely going around the rules and that is all there is.

The free airways are there if you live within reach of a station. If Aereo provided a service that extended a network say you lived within 50 miles of the local station but in a valley so you couldn't get the signal then I would get it. They are not doing that since there is no money in doing that......

Dude, what's the difference between buying an antenna and DVR, or just renting one from someone and they stream it to you? It's not going around the rules at all. One antenna per subscriber, and you have to be in the broadcast area. Absolutely no different then just buying it yourself. This is a great idea that they have, and like usual, greedy networks want a piece because they think they can, not because they are actually entitled to it.

Lower courts have already decided this as well. The NFL/MLB threats are bogus at best.

Not trying to be disrespectful here.
Does the opener to every NFL game still say that the game cannot be rebroadcast without the NFL's written consent and isn't this just that - rebroadcasting?
And related to that - is the statement the NFL makes, is that not even a legit legal statement for them to make? We can actually rebroadcast games?

 

[sc85sis]

The leagues also wrote that Aereo is employing "technological chicanery" to erode the rights of content owners.

The only "technological chicanery" is the theft of the public domain that is our free airwaves. Corporations treat them like they are their private property and the courts approve this theft. THAT'S the only technological chicanery. Aereo gives us back what is legally ours to begin with.

Oh come on - they put the antennas in one place where people don't live and then you look at it through the computer and it is supposed to be legal because there is a mini antenna sitting somewhere else. It is completely going around the rules and that is all there is.

The free airways are there if you live within reach of a station. If Aereo provided a service that extended a network say you lived within 50 miles of the local station but in a valley so you couldn't get the signal then I would get it. They are not doing that since there is no money in doing that......

Dude, what's the difference between buying an antenna and DVR, or just renting one from someone and they stream it to you? It's not going around the rules at all. One antenna per subscriber, and you have to be in the broadcast area. Absolutely no different then just buying it yourself. This is a great idea that they have, and like usual, greedy networks want a piece because they think they can, not because they are actually entitled to it.

Lower courts have already decided this as well. The NFL/MLB threats are bogus at best.

Not trying to be disrespectful here.
Does the opener to every NFL game still say that the game cannot be rebroadcast without the NFL's written consent and isn't this just that - rebroadcasting?
And related to that - is the statement the NFL makes, is that not even a legit legal statement for them to make? We can actually rebroadcast games?

Does "rebroadcasting" mean transferring a signal to someone else or does it mean re-airing it after the fact? Or does it mean both? Has it been legally defined?

 

[Axx]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

UFC is not dead but it's viewers has dropped off drastically from where it was a few years back.

 

[Tech Worlds]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

Say what?

Boxing maybe?

WWF?

 

[Subzero717]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

UFC is not dead but it's viewers has dropped off drastically from where it was a few years back.

I think UFC will be on a decline for several reasons. Not saying it is now. Their viewership maybe down because their target audience is for the most part males 18-34. Males 18-34 almost all now how to stream it from a site without paying.
The product minus a couple fighters is watered down. Maybe watered is a poor term. Parody. Tons of parody. It seems like a guy is only capable of winning a handful of fights in a row. Then a couple losses and out. How do you follow and support a fighter.
Head trauma as in NFL will affect it as it did boxing. See Rogan interview with St. Pierre when Rogan immediately went on and said Pierre needs to hang it up. Gets lost driving home, thinks he's being followed.

Way off topic sorry. Cable sucks!!!

 

[Trenchbroom]

Cali, I HATE being that guy but in this case I have to:

Parity.

Just had to say something in this case. As a non-fan of UFC it did make reading your post a bit more entertaining though!

 

[pmedic920]

This is the reason why ufc died so quickly.
no one wants to pay monthly fees to watch people fight.

Huh? UFC is dead?

My thoughts exactly.
Actually there are a couple of smaller organizations doing fairly well, riding on the UFC's shirt tails.
Are you ok, Axx?

Yes cable sucks. Then again so does paying DTV 100$ a month.

 

[Subzero717]

Cali, I HATE being that guy but in this case I have to:

Parity.

Just had to say something in this case. As a non-fan of UFC it did make reading your post a bit more entertaining though!

Actually if you saw the last GSP fight and the outcome it was quite the parody.:mrgreen: