bigtrain21":22taz1rw said:I think paying money to bullpen guys is silly when you churn them out cheap every year. Oh well, not my money.
m0ng0":255174yf said:We upgrade from the Bartender and it still does not make some of you happy, there is no salary cap remember? The team is making moves to win now, this is not what I had expected but I am liking it!
Uncle Si":swkgfjf8 said:bigtrain21":swkgfjf8 said:I think paying money to bullpen guys is silly when you churn them out cheap every year. Oh well, not my money.
Yeah, but closers are a different animal. Its a bit much, I agree, but the bullpen (believe it or not) is the biggest area of concern for the club.
7 mill isnt a whole lot for back end talent.
Still need a bat and another starter. Could be some trades coming.
bigtrain21":xngr1ruu said:Uncle Si":xngr1ruu said:bigtrain21":xngr1ruu said:I think paying money to bullpen guys is silly when you churn them out cheap every year. Oh well, not my money.
Yeah, but closers are a different animal. Its a bit much, I agree, but the bullpen (believe it or not) is the biggest area of concern for the club.
7 mill isnt a whole lot for back end talent.
Still need a bat and another starter. Could be some trades coming.
You make some good points for sure. Rodney does worry me though. Why are his last two years so out of line with his previous years? His ERA hovered in the 4's for years and then .60 and 3.38. I hope he doesn't go back to what he was before 2012.
Smelly McUgly":3a3q4dw4 said:Eh, it's an okay signing. Nothing to get hyped about.
I really hope they sign Jimenez and trade a Paxton-led package for a cost-controlled OF that can hit. You know, like we had with Adam Jones before we traded him. Yeah, I know that was a different regime.
Smelly McUgly":17gcfg3a said:I want no part of Nelson Cruz. I'd rather just cross my fingers and run Almonte out there if need be. We need an outfielder that can play defense and also hit the baseball. Cruz is mediocre at hitting and downright awful in the field.
I would rather have let Farquhar close than give Rodney 7M a year to do it.
Uncle Si":1igte799 said:Smelly McUgly":1igte799 said:I want no part of Nelson Cruz. I'd rather just cross my fingers and run Almonte out there if need be. We need an outfielder that can play defense and also hit the baseball. Cruz is mediocre at hitting and downright awful in the field.
I would rather have let Farquhar close than give Rodney 7M a year to do it.
I'm not a fan of Cruz, and he just adds to the logjam of players who dont play outfield, but Cruz can hit... i mean if he comes in at 8 mil for 2 years, whats the problem? (or, better yet, the team needs another bat, so whose left?)
Rodney posted a .63 ERA in 2012. under 3 for most of 2013. He's a quality signing for a team that wants to complete. Regardless of whether he's in the 8th or 9th inning, its a solid signing. 7 million is pretty good (unless ofcourse you're paying it, which i dont think you are...)
Smelly McUgly":3odn8swz said:I don't know that I agree with you, Si, but I definitely see where you are coming from. You know, if the Ms make a couple more moves and end up with an outfielder that can hit and plays strong defense and a strong #3 starter, and then all the young guys develop this year, you are right that I will look back at the Rodney signing and see that it was a good move to get a competitive team into the playoffs.
Right now, I'm just looking for the Ms to be in the playoff hunt come September. Meaningful late-season baseball would be a huge step for me. At the same time, if they can get into that 85-87 win talent range before the season, some good luck (for once) could generate five or six more wins and help us snag a wild card. I just don't see the Rodney move as mattering for either of those goals unless the Ms have about two or three more tricks up their sleeves.
m0ng0":1snjf89c said:Maybe the new owner (whomever that is now) wants to win and is willing to spend money to do so, so therefore they are signing guys to fill all these holes, maybe they have a much larger budget then they had in years past?