Fox0r
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Colin Kaepernick has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL right now.
Scottemojo":2y49ox5a said:And two seconds for Alex Smith?
Fox0r":1dz22lti said:Colin Kaepernick has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL right now.
Luck to Bradford isn't a close comparison. At all. Luck's Y/A and ANY/A were 7.0 and 5.66, respectively. Bradford's as a rookie were 6.0 and 4.73 on 37 fewer attempts than Luck. Luck's passer rating is deflated because of his abnormally low completion percentage, but that's a result of attempting more difficult throws. Luck's Deep% (% of attempts over 15 yards) was 27.0%, 3rd in the league. Bradford's Deep% as a rookie was 12.5%, last of the 39 qualifying QBs that year. He doesn't deserve to be compared to Luck because his completion percentage (which makes up 25% of passer rating) is inflated by throwing a bunch of short, easy passes.kearly":1xrudjw7 said:Andrew Luck's rookie season, which was very similar to Bradford's in terms of schedule strength and surrounding cast, also resulted in the same exact passer rating: 76.5.
Scottemojo":srwfe5xn said:I would have trouble making an over rated list that did not include
Andy Reid
Brian Cushing
Heath Miller
Antonio Cromartie
London Fletcher (Seriously, he got so much pub last year and he is awful!)
and Joe Staley.
jewhawk":3gk3qa9y said:Re: Fitzgerald: I wouldn't call him overrated based on last season. In Kolb's 5 starts, Fitz had 32 receptions for 367 yards and 3 TDs, which projects to 102 receptions for 1174 yards and 10 TDs over a 16 game season. Lindley and Skelton were just historically bad and no receiver would have produced with those two last year.
For me, the most overrated player in the league is RG III, even before his injury. I still don't buy into him as a passer and think his great passing efficiency numbers are misleading because defenses keying on his running ability gives him easier throws to make. His passing numbers took a nosedive last year in situations where the defense didn't have to focus on the run. He wasn't good when he had to throw more than 25 times a game, and he wasn't good on 3rd and long when defenses could focus on stopping the pass. On 3rd and 8 or more to go last year:
Luck: 41-83, 8.54 Y/A, 2.41 INT%, 5.68 Sack%, 36.4 1st down %
Wilson: 22-40, 7.33 Y/A, 2.44 INT%, 9.09 Sack%, 27.3 1st down %
RG3: 28-48, 5.88 Y/A, 0.00 INT%, 11.11 Sack%, 9.3 1st down %
RG3 is a great weapon, but he isn't a great passer yet and we saw his body wear down last year when he relied too much on his legs.
Sarlacc83":2nj5t17t said:I feel like Aldon Smith is going to be on this list very soon if he doesn't belong there already.
CALIHAWK1":36esek6b said:Fox0r":36esek6b said:Colin Kaepernick has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL right now.
That's just being a homer. After next year lets talk again.
Scottemojo":2mufvmda said:I would have trouble making an over rated list that did not include
Andy Reid
Brian Cushing
Heath Miller
Antonio Cromartie
London Fletcher (Seriously, he got so much pub last year and he is awful!)
and Joe Staley.
NinerLifer":7im1i2on said:CALIHAWK1":7im1i2on said:Fox0r":7im1i2on said:Colin Kaepernick has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL right now.
That's just being a homer. After next year lets talk again.
Seriously man? Then I guess if you weren't a Seahawk fan Wilson would be overrated too right?
NinerLifer":2uo1bx5t said:Scottemojo":2uo1bx5t said:I would have trouble making an over rated list that did not include
Andy Reid
Brian Cushing
Heath Miller
Antonio Cromartie
London Fletcher (Seriously, he got so much pub last year and he is awful!)
and Joe Staley.
Staley?....ok
Ask Clay Mathews if he thinks Staley is overrated.
NinerLifer":2ngf3v6s said:CALIHAWK1":2ngf3v6s said:Fox0r":2ngf3v6s said:Colin Kaepernick has to be one of the most overrated players in the NFL right now.
That's just being a homer. After next year lets talk again.
Seriously man? Then I guess if you weren't a Seahawk fan Wilson would be overrated too right?
Aldon Smith without Justin Smith out there really controlling things is like Bruce Irvin in the Falcon's game without Clemons out there to take up pressure. So ya, I could see Aldon mith as overrated, at least until he proves he can do it without the other Smith making hay.Sarlacc83":kaeag2cn said:I feel like Aldon Smith is going to be on this list very soon if he doesn't belong there already.
Jazzhawk":w0nbqpcw said:Aldon Smith without Justin Smith out there really controlling things is like Bruce Irvin in the Falcon's game without Clemons out there to take up pressure. So ya, I could see Aldon mith as overrated, at least until he proves he can do it without the other Smith making hay.Sarlacc83":w0nbqpcw said:I feel like Aldon Smith is going to be on this list very soon if he doesn't belong there already.
look@dafilm":30w7p5le said:If I name a certain "dangeruss" player, will I get the ban-hammer?
RolandDeschain":2qj6ajn1 said:look@dafilm":2qj6ajn1 said:If I name a certain "dangeruss" player, will I get the ban-hammer?
No, but you'll get laughed at. We'll call you full of it, and say Kaepernick's overrated, not Wilson. You'll deny it because he got to the Super Bowl. We'll point out that you were one play away from getting to the Super Bowl the year before with Alex freakin' Smith manning the helm, and congratulate you on Kaepernick getting one play further than Smith, and that'll be the end of it. I just saved us a few posts. :devil: