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[strohmin]

Kearse got bashed the year after he left Seattle, lockett got bashed the last year he was here, and K9 gets bashed every other week. And i dont need ti google Thomas, i was here for it. So try again... And why people take what Wilson does in his personal life so personal, I'll never understand. But like I said, do you

It's not personal once he starts talking about it through the media and promoting it on social media. It's not like some paparazzi snuck into his house and invaded his privacy.

 

[hawker84]

I mean I get it. If you want to hate russ the person, I totally get it. He's cringe worthy to the 100th degree.

But to downplay his role here, and say he stabbed us in the back, and was only chasing the bag is categorically false.

You're placing your blame on the wrong person. Carroll was the cancer at the end, not RW.

 

[hawker84]

It's not personal once he starts talking about it through the media and promoting it on social media. It's not like some paparazzi snuck into his house and invaded his privacy.

I think you have the definition of private vs personal confused...

But Im sorry, I must have missed it. What nefarious thing did he say about seattle through the media?

 

[strohmin]

The funny thing is we now know he was right about Pete, but no one wants to acknowledge it. They all agree with Russ now that Pete was a problem but still hate him for thinking it before they did? It doesn't make sense. Pete was terrible down the stretch and unwilling to move on literally anything. His drafting was terrible, his coordinators were terrible, he wasn't able to jump in and fix issues in the game planning, He didn't want a good line, he kept throwing resources at his defense and yet it was near league worst for 5 straight years etc.

Russ was right about Pete and Pete was right about Russ. Pete is too simple minded of a coach and giving Russ an O-line is a waste of money.

 

[strohmin]

Im sorry I must have missed it. What nefarious thing did he say about seattle through the media?

He didn't say anything about Seattle, I'm talking about bashing him for talking a big talk but not delivering. Whatever he promoted through the media or on social media is what most people bash. What personal stuff that he didn't promote was bashed?

 

[DTiempo81]

It wasn't about securing the bag, he already had a bag. And was guarenteed getting another bag regardless the situation. .

It was absolutely about being paid. He wanted to be the highest paid QB, and Hawks didn't want to commit that kind of money.

He left because he and Carroll knew it was either going to be one or the other. RW wanted a competent Oline, Carroll had his own vision. RW saw the writing on the wall and created his own opportunity to part ways. I'd have done the same damn thing.

RW wanted control over the offense, full stop. You only have to look at his time in Denver to see what he wanted in Seattle.

It's just good business sense, and the fact that people are salty about it, and take it personal, tells me one, they don't know how today's NFL works, and two, damn sure don't know how business works. Nobody is loyal anymore. Nobody. Larry Fitzgerald was one of the last of a dying breed. It's all about the bag now. Talk about being Naive....

I don't disagree with any of this. I am just explaining why a portion of the hardcore fans will never forgive him. That type of fan wants the players to "give hometown discounts" and stay loyal to the team above all else. Obviously, that's an extremely rare situation.

 

[DTiempo81]

The funny thing is we now know he was right about Pete, but no one wants to acknowledge it. They all agree with Russ now that Pete was a problem but still hate him for thinking it before they did? It doesn't make sense.

I don't think anyone hates him for his opinion about Pete. They hate him for not being the type of player that puts the team above all else, which I stated in the comment above, is an extremely rare case to happen in any sport. I don't fault Russ for doing what is best for him. I may have some issue with exactly the way he went about it, but that's water under the bridge at this point.

Pete was terrible down the stretch and unwilling to move on literally anything. His drafting was terrible, his coordinators were terrible, he wasn't able to jump in and fix issues in the game planning, He didn't want a good line, he kept throwing resources at his defense and yet it was near league worst for 5 straight years etc.

Totally. I think you are conflating two things though. There are a lot of fans that upset about that as well. I think Russ' biggest problem through all of this was the way he approached getting this done. He used his agent to muddy the waters about his true intentions, while trying to maintain the squeaky clean image to the fans. That's the thing that rubbed people the wrong way.

 

[hox]

I mean I get it. If you want to hate russ the person, I totally get it. His cringe worthy to the 100th degree.

But to downplay his role here, and say he stabbed us in the back, and was only chasing the bag is categorically false.

You're placing your blame on the wrong person. Carroll was the cancer at the end, not RW.

Russ to me is an afterthought at this point. I really don't care that much about him.

But if you're ignorant to the fact that he put himself and his personal ambitions above the team, then that's on you.

 

[hawker84]

Russ to me is an afterthought at this point. I really don't care that much about him.

But if you're ignorant to the fact that he put himself and his personal ambitions above the team, then that's on you.

We obviously disagree, and that's cool.

 

[hawker84]

He didn't say anything about Seattle, I'm talking about bashing him for talking a big talk but not delivering. Whatever he promoted through the media or on social media is what most people bash. What personal stuff that he didn't promote was bashed?

Ah ok.

I care about what he did while he was here. Which was put his body on the line every weekend, be nothing less than an exemplary representative of this franchise the entire 10 years he was here, become man of the year, break a ton of records along the way, oh and lead us to a chip. And because of that, he will always have my support on the field. Off the field, I don't give him a thought.

What battles he has or had with the national media, or the Broncos, or the Giants after his time here doesn't interest me at all. I couldn't care less.

But like I said to each their own, you do you.

 

[hawker84]

Russ to me is an afterthought at this point. I really don't care that much about him.

But if you're ignorant to the fact that he put himself and his personal ambitions above the team, then that's on you.

How dare he put his career above a stagnant team and an aging fool of a coach. Off with his head I say.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

Why? And says who?

His team mates for one. To get people to elect you, you need to have a majority of people like you and appear genuine. I dont see it.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

He'll be in the ring of honor for sure. He's our best ever QB (so far). The LOB might not like him but they don't win a superbowl without him over a 13 win season and play off run. Time is also a healer. Kenny Easley, Steve Hutchison. People mellow over time or reflect. Hall of fame chances died when he went to Denver and played the way he did.

 

[strohmin]

Ah ok.

I care about what he did while he was here. Which was put his body on the line every weekend, be nothing less than an exemplary representative of this franchise the entire 10 years he was here, become man of the year, break a ton of records along the way, oh and lead us to a chip. And because of that, he will always have my support on the field. Off the field, I don't give him a thought.

What battles he has or had with the national media, or the Broncos, or the Giants after his time here doesn't interest me at all. I couldn't care less.

But like I said to each their own, you do you.

You keep supporting, cheering and standing up for him and other will keep bashing him. Apart from his first 3 years, he didn't do anything special. I don't care about his off field stuff either but some do and want to vent about it in an online forum. There is nothing wrong with that. You do you as well.

 

[hawker84]

His team mates for one. To get people to elect you, you need to have a majority of people like you and appear genuine. I dont see it.

Lynch just said RW is his starting QB on his all time seahawks team in an interview last Saturday. Baldwin said RW was his QB in the trenches on the lynch/Mike Rob podcast. So what teammates are you referring too? Percy Harvin? Jamaal Adams? Sherman?

 

[hawker84]

You keep supporting, cheering and standing up for him and other will keep bashing him. Apart from his first 3 years, he didn't do anything special. I don't care about his off field stuff either but some do and want to vent about it in an online forum. There is nothing wrong with that. You do you as well.

Cheering? That's funny. So now youre trying to diminish his performance during his time here. Are you even remotely serious?

Ya, nothing special but break records behind some of the worst seahawks lines in their history. Same with Geno. Guess that's why he gets all the hate too.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

Lynch just said RW is his starting QB on his all time seahawks team in an interview last Saturday. Baldwin said RW was his QB in the trenches on the lynch/Mike Rob podcast. So what teammates are you referring too? Percy Harvin? Jamaal Adams? Sherman?

There's a difference between being liked and being a good player. Wilson was by fae the best QB any of those guys played with. Doesn't mean they are necessarily friends.

Look at Brady or Manning. Rarely anyone says a bad word about them. Players laid it on the line for them and respected them. Those are 2 I could see go into politics if they were interested.

 

[Ozzy]

I don't think anyone hates him for his opinion about Pete. They hate him for not being the type of player that puts the team above all else, which I stated in the comment above, is an extremely rare case to happen in any sport. I don't fault Russ for doing what is best for him. I may have some issue with exactly the way he went about it, but that's water under the bridge at this point.



Totally. I think you are conflating two things though. There are a lot of fans that upset about that as well. I think Russ' biggest problem through all of this was the way he approached getting this done. He used his agent to muddy the waters about his true intentions, while trying to maintain the squeaky clean image to the fans. That's the thing that rubbed people the wrong way.

Fair point. So I have a friend who works for the Seahawks and hear a much different story than what many do in the media. I'm extremely biased because of it.

I do think Russ did want what was best for the team he just did a horrible job of presenting it and going about it but I dont think the changes he wanted were for his gain but he felt it was best for the team that is the only thing I'd nitpick about this post but again its all a fair point and I am biased based on inside information that may or may not be true although I trust my friend.

 

[hawker84]

There's a difference between being liked and being a good player. Wilson was by fae the best QB any of those guys played with. Doesn't mean they are necessarily friends.

Look at Brady or Manning. Rarely anyone says a bad word about them. Players laid it on the line for them and respected them. Those are 2 I could see go into politics if they were interested.

Ok, so who are the players on that team that straight up came out and said they don't like him. Remember before you answer, I've followed this team awful close over the years.

 

[Ozzy]

Cheering? That's funny. So now youre trying to diminish his performance during his time here. Are you even remotely serious?

Ya, nothing special but break records behind some of the worst seahawks lines in their history. Same with Geno. Guess that's why he gets all the hate too.

The idea Russ only had 3 good years is hilarious. He had a full decade of elite play. What are we doing here?