May I Please Make An Observation...

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TaterHawk":32e087za said:
Oh yes it can matter. I shot clay target competitions for years. Nearly anyone can shoot one clay target, but to shoot clay targets at a high competition level (100X100) you have trained your subconscious to do most of the work. You first see a flash then your eyes catch the flash. You track the flash until you see the target, next you find a focus point on the target and your sub conscious makes the correct adjustments and pulls the trigger. A lot happens in about 1.5 seconds. Color changes on a target, or the background and lighting have an impact because your subconcious only learns from reps anything new is more difficult. Say RW is shooting at moving targets (he is). One day he is shooting at white targets, and another day he is shooting at the dark targets, The jersey is the first thing his eye picks up before he finds his point of focus. He’s not just shooting at the entire target. To be outstandingly accurate he should have a focus point, be it the green slash on the shoulder, or the hawk on the helmet. He picks a focus point and his subconscious makes the determination of lead and placement, and when to pull the trigger (at the same time his subconcious is making adjustments for the D by color and movement). The subconscious is not that great at making adjustments off training. When tenths of a second matter color can matter. It would be interesting to know, but he is very likely using the hawk on the helmet as a final focus point when he can….I would be looking for the eye on the hawk before I pulled the trigger. I'm not an expert but i'd guess he is .5 seconds faster to read at home than on the road. That .5 has an impact. Every time his head comes up his subconcious has to remember "oh yeah we are looking for white today" Great athletes’ in any sport involving accuracy study this stuff.

You would be amazed at how much work the subconscious is doing in just the act of throwing a ball, and how poorly it adjust to change.

THANK YOU TATER !! :hmmmm:
 

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Housh and Burleson agree. We should use the lime greens as away jerseys...you can't miss em!
 

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And if you dig a bit deeper into the subconscious stuff it feeds into our Wilson vs Flynn debate. Think of them both as computers taking snapshots to store on the hard drive. RW has more snapshots now. When the QB thinks he should pull the trigger the subconscious pulls up the most relevant snapshots it has of a similar situation. It’s using that snapshot for ball speed, angle, loft and the D situation and it can quickly indicate Green (good to go) or Red….(this is bad) using what it learned having seen that exact situation before. The more snapshots it has the better (and faster) decisions. Brady is not a better athlete than RW. Brady has a very full hard drive and he trust it 100%. Wilson’s hard drive is filling fast and he seems to have a great ability to pull from it, and trust it. Where a guy like Alex Smith appears to have a broken hard drive, or he continues to override it (force it). I still think Flynn may be a better QB, but would likely pull a Whitehurst given the chance..the hard drive is empty and that presents huge risk.

I can’t throw a good pass as my hard drive is full of other photos downloaded from the net
 

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Havent you ever seen the South Park episode about the mormon religion? Think of that when you read my "dumb" post. You might actually get a chuckle.

The poster is not dumb. The idea that a uniform is messing up the Seahawks mojo is though.
 

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Oh yes it can matter. I shot clay target competitions for years. Nearly anyone can shoot one clay target, but to shoot clay targets at a high competition level (100X100) you have trained your subconscious to do most of the work. You first see a flash then your eyes catch the flash. You track the flash until you see the target, next you find a focus point on the target and your sub conscious makes the correct adjustments and pulls the trigger. A lot happens in about 1.5 seconds. Color changes on a target, or the background and lighting have an impact because your subconcious only learns from reps anything new is more difficult. Say RW is shooting at moving targets (he is). One day he is shooting at white targets, and another day he is shooting at the dark targets, The jersey is the first thing his eye picks up before he finds his point of focus. He’s not just shooting at the entire target. To be outstandingly accurate he should have a focus point, be it the green slash on the shoulder, or the hawk on the helmet. He picks a focus point and his subconscious makes the determination of lead and placement, and when to pull the trigger (at the same time his subconcious is making adjustments for the D by color and movement). The subconscious is not that great at making adjustments off training. When tenths of a second matter color can matter. It would be interesting to know, but he is very likely using the hawk on the helmet as a final focus point when he can….I would be looking for the eye on the hawk before I pulled the trigger. I'm not an expert but i'd guess he is .5 seconds faster to read at home than on the road. That .5 has an impact. Every time his head comes up his subconcious has to remember "oh yeah we are looking for white today" Great athletes’ in any sport involving accuracy study this stuff.<br /><br />You would be amazed at how much work the subconscious is doing in just the act of throwing a ball, and how poorly it adjust to change.

Clay pigeons are small, NFL wide receivers are not.

Clay pigeons fly through a low contrast background, white, gray, blue... NFL receivers, from the point of view of a quarterback are going through a high contrast background.

Totally different.
 

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I wouldn't think uniforms could ever be an issue for a teams performance, but I guess you could use it as a far fetched excuse. I will say they should go with a different combo, since they can't seem to win with the current look :roll: .
 

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glowingeyedseahawk":2bmwvqkt said:
Largent80":2bmwvqkt said:
As I stated in the other uni thread. Uniforms don't drop passes and interceptions when they hit you in the hands perfectly.

I understand this and completely agree.
I am stating from the QB point of view.
There are NO EXCUSES for the dropped passes ~ these are professionals for Christ's sake !!

This post was about slow decision making or the actual passes that are NOT thrown on-target ~ TIMING.

If Wilson is hitting the hands of the receivers then it certainly is not a uniform color. If they aren't catching them, at that point he may get what would be a normal response as...These f**cks can't catch it. But it has NOTHING to do with not being able to see.

Slow decision making?....Well, GET OPEN, then decision is easier. THEN, catch the god damn ball.
 

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T-Sizzle":hh26ben7 said:
Tech Worlds":hh26ben7 said:
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb dumb dumb dumb......... dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

All I can say.

That is not acceptable treatment of another poster. Not sure how that is allowed.

OP: Could be, interesting thought.....ya never know. Take away the drops and he was 14/23 on the night... ~61% passing.


Obviously you do not know Tech Worlds. Its ok for him to do it; he is the voice of the reasonings.
 
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Let me ask this question another way......

Can someone tell me how many / what teams wear a white on white
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white on gray (light colored) road jersey ????


I believe the blue pants should be worn because the blue would be a focal point to pick-up visually down-field !!??

.....is that any better to understand ??
 

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JSeahawks":xl9pcmhv said:
Hawk Strap":xl9pcmhv said:
How does Oregon ever complete a pass in those camouflage unis?

Boise St. with Blue unis on a blue field?

Actually Boise State is no longer allowed to wear their blue uniforms when playing on their blue field.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/2 ... 10913.html

I find it interesting that some coaches see it as an advantage. I can see the AD's complaining though, since I like many others can't stand watching them on TV with the combination. Having your team lose revenue since the viewers aren't tuning in from blue turf headaches would definitely bring this about.
 

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Largent80":1wu73s2o said:
As I stated in the other uni thread. Uniforms don't drop passes and interceptions when they hit you in the hands perfectly.


Largent 80, although crazy and dangerous behind the wheel of an automobile, makes a great point.
 

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chawx":287a8j0u said:
GreenUnis09.jpg


Housh and Burleson agree. We should use the lime greens as away jerseys...you can't miss em!

Pete stopped using those unis because" We didnt win in them"
 

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