Mariners Rumors

[Steve Hawk]

Josh Naylor could be a huge addition, .243 avg, 31 Hr's, 108 RBI, 1.5 WAR, .776 OPS and 105 strike outs in 24. A guy can hope!

 

[Crizilla]

A guy can hope!

Naylor, Goldshmidt, Santana, and Walker off the table. Sadly, no, we can't hope. Not anymore. Hitters do not want to come here. Simple as.

 

[Chapow]

Naylor, Goldshmidt, Santana, and Walker off the table. Sadly, no, we can't hope. Not anymore. Hitters do not want to come here. Simple as.

I wouldn't want to play in the least hitter friendly ballpark in MLB either if I was hitter. I also wouldn't want to play for a team that doesn't care about winning.

Outside of the stat boost pitchers get by playing half their games in T-Mobile, I can't imagine why anyone would want to play for the Mariners.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I wouldn't want to play in the least hitter friendly ballpark in MLB either if I was hitter. I also wouldn't want to play for a team that doesn't care about winning.

Outside of the stat boost pitchers get by playing half their games in T-Mobile, I can't imagine why anyone would want to play for the Mariners.

Or a team that might trade me at any minute who’s management admits things like keeping someone in triple A to avoid paying them more, or that winning just enough games to be on fringe is the goal…

What player would trust wheelin Jerry and the M’s FO

 

[Crizilla]

Mariners fans thrilled after Nolan Arenado ruined Astros' offseason trade plans

The Seattle Mariners should be celebrating after Nolan Arenado blocked a trade to one of their hated division rivals.

sodomojo.com

LMAO. "Mariners fans thrilled". Uhh no? Literally nobody is thrilled. Another cringe Mariners media outlet trying desperately to ignore that ownership isn't doing anything and that no hitters want to come here. Who cares what the Astros are doing or not doing. How about the Ms do something?

 

[NoGain]

Every time I look at what off-season moves are taking place in MLB, the M's are nowhere to be found. It's always these little lateral moves with MLB castoffs, and a hope that our farm will produce enough talent to be viable, or that our current roster will surprise and over-produce.

Meanwhile, the ownership group will not bet on their team, and hope fans will continue believing and fill enough seats to keep them profitable with their firework shows and bobbleheads.

 

[Goldfinger 007]

They need a totally different offensive philosophy for their ballpark, a philosophy which will transfer well everywhere. They need to move left center field back out, making the OF larger again, forcing the OTHER team to be more athletic defensively. Next, the M's acquire hitters that focus on simply putting the ball in play. The M's need to have speed in the lineup/basepaths, as speed doesn't slump. Get on base, steal bases, take the extra base, etc. Left handed power/pull hitters are usually successful at Safeco. At this point, Genius Jerry obviously played the market wrong with Castillo. His 2 serious trade partners (CHC & Bos) out chessed him as everyone always does & they both moved on. Castillo stays. Acquire Arraez. He plays second & hits second, hopefully getting plenty of singles behind Robles & ahead of Julio & Cal. The M's are DESPERATE & EVERYONE knows this. Years of refusing to ADD TALENT via free agency & only making terrible to even at best trades, has left them with serious holes to fill every off season. Nobody is going to HELP the Mariners out in trades and good free agents aren't taking less $ for this joke of an ownership/front office group. They've done it to themselves. Jerry has proven to be a con man & bad at his job. Boycott this 2025 team, they will absolutely NOT be better than 2024.

 

[bileever]

Gleyber Torres is still out there, and he's looking for $16 million a year. That's totally within the Mariners' budget. They offered Santana almost that much. Go and sign Torres now and solve the second base problem.

 

[beastalamode]

I have no idea how there will be 30k+ people at the stadium on opening day, but there will be.

 

[Goldfinger 007]

I have no idea how there will be 30k+ people at the stadium on opening day, but there will be.

Trader Jerry will make some lateral trade that doesn't increase talent & they'll put the usual spin on it. Of course he'll tell us how they were allegedly in on everyone, but of course landed nobody. As always. They completely misjudged the player acquisition market this off-season & going back several years. They refused to trade their vaunted prospects when prospects still had value & now nobody wants prospects, they want ready to go players, which dealing players for players doesn't help the Mariners. All the years of never adding via Free Agency has killed this team, the roster is short on talent every year. Everyone knows the M's are desperate & never SPEND, so nobody is going to help them in these ridiculous trade rumors. The fact that this organization is still in love with platoons at multiple positions every year doesn't scream World Series contender.

 

[bileever]

The Mariners have 4 excellent starting pitchers on relatively cheap contracts. Not to mention Munoz and Raleigh both being paid very little. Plus they will get Brash back this year. This is the time to take advantage of that.

If they commit to a reasonable payroll of $160-170 million, they can get two good bats, at either 2B, 3B or 1B. Two GOOD bats, not retreads or has-beens, makes you a contender. I don't see why you wouldn't do it.

Last year's payroll was $147 million. By comparison, the 2018 payroll was $162 million. You would have to be a fool to not realize that their window is now. Spend the money.

(I realize $160-170 million is a lot of money, it puts you in the top 10 in MLB payroll. But you know what? The Mariners are 10th in MLB revenues: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-mlb-teams-take-home-the-most-revenue/)

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They don't care about winning. PERIOD.

 

[NoGain]

The Mariners have 4 excellent starting pitchers on relatively cheap contracts. Not to mention Munoz and Raleigh both being paid very little. Plus they will get Brash back this year. This is the time to take advantage of that.

If they commit to a reasonable payroll of $160-170 million, they can get two good bats, at either 2B, 3B or 1B. Two GOOD bats, not retreads or has-beens, makes you a contender. I don't see why you wouldn't do it.

Last year's payroll was $147 million. By comparison, the 2018 payroll was $162 million. You would have to be a fool to not realize that their window is now. Spend the money.

(I realize $160-170 million is a lot of money, it puts you in the top 10 in MLB payroll. But you know what? The Mariners are 10th in MLB revenues: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-mlb-teams-take-home-the-most-revenue/)

That's what's SO infuriating as a fan. They've GOT the starting staff to compete at the highest level, and they've got/had a window of time where most of them are on cheaper, team friendly contracts. This is/has been the time to GO FOR IT! They've even got a few position players who are/could be as good as any other playing their positions. And to top it off, their division is winnable now.

OMFG! I want to strangle ownership. We've needed two more good bats for a few years now. Get them. Make a few other moves to shore up the pen and balance the lineup. Be aggressive. The time is now. It's not going to get cheaper.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They flat out DON'T CARE ABOUT WINNING. It's about bobbleheads and profit. This franchise is the biggest joke in sports. Until they sell, it won't change.

 

[Goldfinger 007]

That's what's SO infuriating as a fan. They've GOT the starting staff to compete at the highest level, and they've got/had a window of time where most of them are on cheaper, team friendly contracts. This is/has been the time to GO FOR IT! They've even got a few position players who are/could be as good as any other playing their positions. And to top it off, their division is winnable now.

OMFG! I want to strangle ownership. We've needed two more good bats for a few years now. Get them. Make a few other moves to shore up the pen and balance the lineup. Be aggressive. The time is now. It's not going to get cheaper.

The Mariners have 4 excellent starting pitchers on relatively cheap contracts. Not to mention Munoz and Raleigh both being paid very little. Plus they will get Brash back this year. This is the time to take advantage of that.

If they commit to a reasonable payroll of $160-170 million, they can get two good bats, at either 2B, 3B or 1B. Two GOOD bats, not retreads or has-beens, makes you a contender. I don't see why you wouldn't do it.

Last year's payroll was $147 million. By comparison, the 2018 payroll was $162 million. You would have to be a fool to not realize that their window is now. Spend the money.

(I realize $160-170 million is a lot of money, it puts you in the top 10 in MLB payroll. But you know what? The Mariners are 10th in MLB revenues: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-mlb-teams-take-home-the-most-revenue/)

Even IF ownership tells "Jerry you can get to $170 mil for opening day"...... Does anyone REALLY think THAT guy is going to make the right moves.... Knowing his track record of flops? He has said it himself that he doesn't like signing GOOD free agents, he likes trades. And his trades are mostly not good, definitely don't raise the talent level on the major league roster because he hordes these prospects..... Prospects that the M's likely are going to ruin. For laughs let's just say Emerson, Farmelo, Young & Montez are all up by 2026-2027 with everyday roles..... Gilbert, Kirby, Miller & Woo are all now becoming very expensive, so again they will be looking to dump salary & start over again. And they held on to Harry Ford too long that they Mariner-ized him. He can't hit & his bat was his thing. He isn't a headliner in a deal for a legit player. They need to just be honest & admit to the fan base...... "We want to operate like KC, Oak, Cle, Min, Mil, Tampa, Cin & Pit". Just don't keep lying to us as if we're dumb & don't recognize what this is.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep. It's the guy making the trades who's also a HUGE problem.

 

[Goldfinger 007]

Gleyber Torres is still out there, and he's looking for $16 million a year. That's totally within the Mariners' budget. They offered Santana almost that much. Go and sign Torres now and solve the second base problem.

Headed to the Motor City

 

[bileever]

Headed to the Motor City

For one-year $15 million! I find it hard to believe that we couldn't afford that. Dipoto's assessment of Torres must be different from mine. He's had an up-and-down career, but when he's good, he's really good.

So what's the plan? Because there's really no free agents left. Amed Rosario? Brandon Drury? I think it's going to be bargain-basement shopping or dumpster diving again at second base. Jorge Polanco is probably the best second baseman still available, lol.

 

[Goldfinger 007]

For one-year $15 million! I find it hard to believe that we couldn't afford that. Dipoto's assessment of Torres must be different from mine. He's had an up-and-down career, but when he's good, he's really good.

So what's the plan? Because there's really no free agents left. Amed Rosario? Brandon Drury? I think it's going to be bargain-basement shopping or dumpster diving again at second base. Jorge Polanco is probably the best second baseman still available, lol.

So no different than any other off-season led by DiBozo the

 

[Chapow]

For one-year $15 million! I find it hard to believe that we couldn't afford that. Dipoto's assessment of Torres must be different from mine. He's had an up-and-down career, but when he's good, he's really good.

I don't know if the Mariners tried to sign him or not, but it's possible that Torres simply didn't want to play here or would rather play in Detroit.

So what's the plan? Because there's really no free agents left. Amed Rosario? Brandon Drury? I think it's going to be bargain-basement shopping or dumpster diving again at second base. Jorge Polanco is probably the best second baseman still available, lol.

Same plan as always. Wait until all the good, or even decent, players are signed and then pick up a replacement level player to platoon with another replacement level player.