"You argue like a 12 year old". What facts? You talk about defense. His offense is average. As I said, I don't act like he's a SUPERSTAR, the organization does. And as I said before, as long as this cheap organization keeps pretending that he IS a franchise player, the overall talent level on the roster will never increase. As far as his contract goes, the team has an 8 year/$200mil option which they probably won't even exercise because they are too cheap. But assuming all the options were exercised, at the time of the deal, it was the largest ever potentially at $470mil. All you guys on here with this "you just hate the guy". I give you FACTS about why I'm disappointed in his play & his over hype & you ignore it. He's an average hitter. He swings at pitches that hit him & bounce in the dirt, he regularly swings at pitches that not even close to the strike zone. FACTS. So I guess I hate the guy even though I said I wanted him hitting #5 or #6.
League average compared to all hitters or league average compared to his position?
Here is my one argument with that. If he finishes with those numbers would it be considered good? Yes. Great? No. He can't be good making that money on a team that uses money as an excuse.
And the Seattle Mariners are the experts at not being winners. Every single year from the front office it's "we just need Julio to be the star that we think he is"...... Code for "we're aren't going out to ADD talent & payroll".
I'd rather have a guy that starts slow and warms up later in the season and hopefully carries that into the post season than a guy that starts off hot and then goes cold September and October. I know we all want consistency, but truth is in baseball that's pretty rare. Even the best hitters are streaky.
Thats the point I keep trying to make. He's a good player, with good talent. Unfortunately he consistently performs for LONG stretches at league average or just slightly higher. That's a problem when the team portrays him as a franchise player & won't add a REAL franchise type player, to slot Julio appropriately. This is every year he plods along basically for 4 & 1/2 months and we keep hearing "wait until Julio gets hot" or whatever. Every year the M's come up short, because they are short on talent. They don't have a franchise player.
They have done that forever. Jr, Ichiro, Felix, Cano. The run it like a circus and go for that one big attraction. They are very good at the business of baseball.
I hear you man, and I'm with you. I actually had to adjust my own expectations because I was one that thought he was going to be Griffey 2.0, but when I took a step back and looked at all the facts I realized I was being a bit delusional. I still believe there's more there and I do expect him to be better than right this moment. He also looks like he's heating up... Let's hope so!
That they are. It's strange how they don't realize a consistently winning organization is also good business.
Me too, but that still isn't him. If he took the first 2 months off then was a stud the remainder of the year we all would be celebrating. Instead he has long valleys and short spurts while the losses pile up. That doesn't help any team unless he is the 4th or lower best player on the team. He has to be the best for him to lead us. Sorry he has the pressure, but he signed the contract. If he would have taken a Cal contract leaving money for additional talent, different story. And yes I am well aware there would be no guarantees this team would spend the savings.
It is 100% fair. You don't pay him that with the inability to pay others because of it just for him to be average. Only when money is no object that would apply.
You don't even know what their arguing or if or what stats, but you've already made an opinion. That's just stubbornness, not knowledge or intelligence. I knew you wouldn't anyway, it's more for real baseball fans that want to be informed and consider all facts to make an informed and logical opinion.
Haha I don’t want to be informed as much as I wanna be entertained… some body post that hawk puppet popcorn meme @GetNjigbaWithIt
Only a scout can tell if a guy is meh? That I didn't realize that. Question: If that is so, then why are any of us commenting on here? Far as I know there is not a scout in site. Wait, does that mean you are a scout? So which one are you: Eddy Toledo, Tim Kissner or Kelvin Dominguez?
