Looking like Carter or Anderson Jr

[Shane Falco]

I hate the idea of going cornerback so high, especially with the hit rate throughout the draft at that position. Sauce Gardner was the only corner I ever wanted to see drafted high in my life and I'd still would have rather had Aiden Hutchinson if you had the choice just because of position.

I'm down with Anderson or Carter. I'm a bit worried about Carter's conditioning moreso than his maturity issues but I'd be ok with the team taking a chance on him if they feel they can make it work.

 

[Jegpeg]

Lots of 12s are going to go ape shit no matter what the front office does in the draft.

Anderson at 3, Richardson at 20 and Carter at 37 might please everyone
While the chances of either Richardson being available at 20 or Carter at 37 are very low but conceivable I can't see both happening.
Can't understand the reason for a CB, with Woolen and Bryant we are set. We might draft for depth but you don't do that at 5th overall!

 

[CactusJack]

agree, but some of the board has started to drift off of the ideation of drafting anderson

hot takes and other reports indicating anderson isn't worth the hype:




his combine didn't wow anybody either

I mean, you can literally pick apart all of these guys.

Young is too small.

Stroud struggled under pressure.

Richardson is raw.

Levis= decision making

Everyone is aware of the potential downside with Carter.

Anderson isn't perfect by any means. But he's also likely the safest bet. High Floor.

Basically, there isn't a perfect prospect in this draft. Especially with the 5th pick.

 

[MyrtleHawk]

I don't know about this. The Front Office keeps things a LOT closer to the vest, unless this is a smoke screen. I doubt they'd leak this kind of info out this soon...

At this time with everything I've heard and seen, I fully expect them to trade down.

 

[CactusJack]

Can't understand the reason for a CB, with Woolen and Bryant we are set. We might draft for depth but you don't do that at 5th overall!

Witherspoon is a shutdown corner. Pairing him with Woolen would potentially give you two guys who can lockdown each side.

Bryant profiles as more of a #2/3 CB.

This edge class is so deep that you can grab a guy later. Like a Will McDonald & not really miss a beat.

 

[ElvisInBlue]

It’s an offensive league…I’d take Stroud, Richardson, or Levis before Anderson. Just a matter of value.

Don‘t get the Wilson or Carter hype. Wilson is a 4-3 end not a OLB edge or 3-4 DE. Carter is an unmotivated underachiever with questionable judgement off field.

 

[irfuben32]

agree, but some of the board has started to drift off of the ideation of drafting anderson

hot takes and other reports indicating anderson isn't worth the hype:




his combine didn't wow anybody either

I was off Anderson and Simms gave me the confirmation bias I was looking for. I want Jalen Carter, Tyree Wilson or trade back.

 

[irfuben32]

It’s an offensive league…I’d take Stroud, Richardson, or Levis before Anderson. Just a matter of value.

Don‘t get the Wilson or Carter hype. Wilson is a 4-3 end not a OLB edge or 3-4 DE. Carter is an unmotivated underachiever with questionable judgement off field.

they brought in Dremont Jones to be a 3-4 DE and Wilson is only 5-10 pounds lighter and he will probably bulk up.

As far as a QB, I feel like we are in win now mode with Geno. Our defense needs a lot of help, we need to spend that premium draft capitol to get the Defense up to par (don't know if you noticed but it was awful last year). I am super happy to take Hooker if he falls to us and we have shored up the holes we need to fill first.

 

[CactusJack]

It’s an offensive league…I’d take Stroud, Richardson, or Levis before Anderson. Just a matter of value.

Don‘t get the Wilson or Carter hype. Wilson is a 4-3 end not a OLB edge or 3-4 DE. Carter is an unmotivated underachiever with questionable judgement off field.

Stroud & Richardson will both likely be gone before they pick. Levis will be drafted a round sooner than he should. A QB needy team will make the mistake of taking him early (Colts).

 

[ElvisInBlue]

they brought in Dremont Jones to be a 3-4 DE and Wilson is only 5-10 pounds lighter and he will probably bulk up.

As far as a QB, I feel like we are in win now mode with Geno. Our defense needs a lot of help, we need to spend that premium draft capitol to get the Defense up to par (don't know if you noticed but it was awful last year). I am super happy to take Hooker if he falls to us and we have shored up the holes we need to fill first.

With the additional #s Wilson is no longer an edge. His get off is questionable at #270, it won’t get better with bulk. Is he exceptional enough to draft as a non pass rusher @5?

Still plenty of picks to spend on defense after 5. With no true elite defensive talent in this draft the value is sitting late R1 & R2.

 

[ElvisInBlue]

Stroud & Richardson will both likely be gone before they pick. Levis will be drafted a round sooner than he should. A QB needy team will make the mistake of taking him early (Colts). Hopefully, we're not that team.

Levis is my QB3, but I think he has more upside than the consensus is giving him.

Reportedly his cognitive / processing testing and IQ are very high. Decision making should be improved with coaching and not having to carry his whole team.

 

[Smellyman]

just look at all of Simms' rankings this year and you realize he is a bona fide moron. Or doing it just to be hot take/clickbait guy.

 

[AgentDib]

I don't buy that "a source in Seattle" is from the Seahawks organization, or that "I was told it loves..." is anything but media/fan speculation. The Hawks have been careful with data getting out and I would bet money that they aren't leaking information to ESPN's Matt Miller. The dots being connected aren't outrageous in that Anderson, Carter and Witherspoon are three of the top defensive players on most boards, but I don't believe this is anything but dot connecting.

It's low risk speculation, because if we do trade back and then draft Nolan Smith the speculator can just say "they liked Witherspoon but ultimately wanted to address Edge." You can't prove any of this stuff wrong unless you have real inside information.

 

[CPHawk]

It’s an offensive league…I’d take Stroud, Richardson, or Levis before Anderson. Just a matter of value.

Don‘t get the Wilson or Carter hype. Wilson is a 4-3 end not a OLB edge or 3-4 DE. Carter is an unmotivated underachiever with questionable judgement off field.

He won’t be an option, so that’s a moot point.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Carter or Anderson??? Unless it is Richardson, Levis, Wilson, or a trade back, or another.

When it becomes too obvious it probably isn't.

I had this conversation before last year’s draft and lo and behold the Hawks went chalk with Cross, Mafe, Lucas, Walker and Woolen and it worked out great. Years prior they drafted anything that seemed risky. I’m hoping for less drama and more reasonable picks again this year like last

 

[Double Tribble]

I mean, you can literally pick apart all of these guys.

Young is too small.

Stroud struggled under pressure.

Richardson is raw.

Levis= decision making

Everyone is aware of the potential downside with Carter.

Anderson isn't perfect by any means. But he's also likely the safest bet. High Floor.

Basically, there isn't a perfect prospect in this draft. Especially with the 5th pick.

This x 10. I can't remember a draft where all the top picks have so many concerns. Is that because we finally have a top pick, and we're scrutinizing them more, or is it really that weak of a draft?

 

[Ozzy]

Count me in as a little down on Anderson. I just assumed he was a monster off the edge but apparently he's not and even people who like him agree on this. I think Seahawks fans assume he's a bosa type of player but again, he's not. I know he's a good football player but fans expecting a Von Miller, Bosa type of guy are probably a little off base.

It is a crazy top of the draft with all of them having concerns. Makes it fun though.

 

[Ozzy]

Levis is my QB3, but I think he has more upside than the consensus is giving him.

Reportedly his cognitive / processing testing and IQ are very high. Decision making should be improved with coaching and not having to carry his whole team.

I agree. I think he is probably better than fans think he is. I could be wrong though and we will see. I still wouldn't be shocked if Seattle took him.

 

[CactusJack]

This x 10. I can't remember a draft where all the top picks have so many concerns. Is that because we finally have a top pick, and we're scrutinizing them more, or is it really that weak of a draft?

I actually would argue that it's a normal draft that is short on top end talent.

The two best players in this draft, talent wise, are Bijan Robinson, a RB & Jalen Carter. Who would be a slam dunk #1 overall pick, if not for the off the field/character concerns.

There is no Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence to be found this year.

Stroud is a fairly safe bet. But he's not as good as either of those two.

Anderson has a fairly high floor, but as others have mentioned, he's not an elite level talent. He'll probably have a very good career. But he's not a total gamechanger like a Von Miller.

 

[Aircrew]

But he hasn't been able to build a truly good defense for years and years. And how many great defenses are there in the NFL? San Fran and who else?

Is that really a viable plan as more and more rule changes benefit offenses? I'm not sure anymore.

I wonder if the focus needs to be about game changing football players. Maybe they're on defense, but maybe they're not. You've got to follow the talent you can acquire and build around it.

I understand your point, but I don't think Pete concerns himself with rule changes that favor offenses. Pete's an innovator, and I think he views the offense friendly rules as of late to be an opportunity to build a new style defense with unique talents and stick it to the NFL. We shall see, but after the Russ debacle where a prima donna QB ended up holding the team hostage for years, I think Pete and John are on a fn mission to find a way to consistently win in the NFL without a salary cap crippling QB.