Let's make a trade: Oakland Raiders

[jake206]

Theoretically speaking, if Beastmode asks to be traded to Oakland. What would you ask for him from Raiders? Let's be realistic. 4th + Latavius Murray? Any speculation?

 

[SomersetHawk]

2nd round pick. It sounds reasonable plus it's only a few picks after our 1st.

 

[Hawkspur]

2nd minimum. Maybe 2 x 2nds.

 

[Marvin49]

I could be wrong here...but I was under the impression he was a free agent.

...and as for what he'd be worth? You guys aren't even close.

RB has been GREATLY devalued these days and as great as Marshawn is, he's also 28, has a bad back, and is contemplating retirement at the end of every season. No team is going to give up that bounty.

I'd love to see him gone from the Seattle roster, but I think the reality is that he's a bit like Frank Gore in that he's more valuable to his current team than to any other team that would seek his services.

 

[SomersetHawk]

I could be wrong here...but I was under the impression he was a free agent.

Who, Murray? Don't think so.

Lynch is under contract for next season.

 

[Marvin49]

I could be wrong here...but I was under the impression he was a free agent.

Who, Murray? Don't think so.

Lynch is under contract for next season.

Ah. Didn't know that.

See my edit tho on previous post...I think you guys are way off on compensation...and I say that as a guy who loves Lynch even if I don't like who he plays for.

 

[SomersetHawk]

I could be wrong here...but I was under the impression he was a free agent.

Who, Murray? Don't think so.

Lynch is under contract for next season.

Ah. Didn't know that.

See my edit tho on previous post...I think you guys are way off on compensation...and I say that as a guy who loves Lynch even if I don't like who he plays for.

I think two 2nds is way off. One 2nd not so much but a 3rd or future 2nd might be more likely. Lynch is no doubt hugely valuable to us (we've reportedly offered him $10m next year), but he'd be huge for a team like Oakland too and has shown no signs of drop-off. He's got at least two good years in him.

However, if Lynch demands a trade to Oakland then our hands are tied a bit and we'd be lucky to get a 4th. Hope it doesn't come to that though, would surprise me if it did.

 

[pehawk]

Way to make me agree with GothGirl, ladies. He's right. You ladies are WAAAAYYYY off.

5th, maybe, tops. Most likely a 6th or 7th.

 

[Marvin49]

I could be wrong here...but I was under the impression he was a free agent.

Who, Murray? Don't think so.

Lynch is under contract for next season.

Ah. Didn't know that.

See my edit tho on previous post...I think you guys are way off on compensation...and I say that as a guy who loves Lynch even if I don't like who he plays for.

I think two 2nds is way off. One 2nd not so much but a 3rd or future 2nd might be more likely. Lynch is no doubt hugely valuable to us (we've reportedly offered him $10m next year), but he'd be huge for a team like Oakland too and has shown no signs of drop-off. He's got at least two good years in him.

However, if Lynch demands a trade to Oakland then our hands are tied a bit and we'd be lucky to get a 4th. Hope it doesn't come to that though, would surprise me if it did.

One 2nd from the raiders is way too much because they pick so high in the round.

My guess is if its a trade from Raiders it'll be a 5 or a 4 at the highest. I'm not sure they make a trade at all though...they have like 40 mil in cap space and can pretty easily clear another 10-20 so they might want to keep all those picks and just sign guys in free agency instead of trading away picks for older vets.

 

[Marvin49]

Way to make me agree with GothGirl, ladies. He's right. You ladies are WAAAAYYYY off.

5th, maybe, tops. Most likely a 6th or 7th.

I know that hurt Pe.

 

[pehawk]

Way to make me agree with GothGirl, ladies. He's right. You ladies are WAAAAYYYY off.

5th, maybe, tops. Most likely a 6th or 7th.

I know that hurt Pe.

Not as much as watching, in horror, Seahawks fans sound like sports radio callers.

Lord almighty, a 2nd? Two 2nd's??!! Holy shit, this isn't 1991 you naïve rubes.

 

[Ozzy]

We would be lucky to get a 5th and there is no way they would trade Murray who has a lot of potential and is much younger.

 

[SomersetHawk]

Way to make me agree with GothGirl, ladies. He's right. You ladies are WAAAAYYYY off.

5th, maybe, tops. Most likely a 6th or 7th.

I know that hurt Pe.

Not as much as watching, in horror, Seahawks fans sound like sports radio callers.

Lord almighty, a 2nd? Two 2nd's??!! Holy shit, this isn't 1991 you naïve rubes.

Haha. Given the sentiments of the thread I'll respond to the name rube. But if we could assume Oakland have some competition for his signature then I'd be positively gutted to end up with a 6th/7th for the best running back in the league.

 

[kidhawk]

I agree that IF we were to try to trade Lynch, we'd likely not get much in return. With that said, we aren't trading Lynch. I see two options for Lynch, he retires or he takes a pay raise and sticks around in Seattle. I'm guessing he takes the money and one more shot at a super bowl run.

 

[Marvin49]

I agree that IF we were to try to trade Lynch, we'd likely not get much in return. With that said, we aren't trading Lynch. I see two options for Lynch, he retires or he takes a pay raise and sticks around in Seattle. I'm guessing he takes the money and one more shot at a super bowl run.

I don't think he'll be traded either, but I think he'll retire.

 

[Marvin49]

Way to make me agree with GothGirl, ladies. He's right. You ladies are WAAAAYYYY off.

5th, maybe, tops. Most likely a 6th or 7th.

I know that hurt Pe.

Not as much as watching, in horror, Seahawks fans sound like sports radio callers.

Lord almighty, a 2nd? Two 2nd's??!! Holy shit, this isn't 1991 you naïve rubes.

Haha. Given the sentiments of the thread I'll respond to the name rube. But if we could assume Oakland have some competition for his signature then I'd be positively gutted to end up with a 6th/7th for the best running back in the league.

Problem isn't that he's good. I agree he's the best in the NFL right now.

What's working against you is that there aren't many teams that value RBs the way Seattle and SF do and the fact that he's 28 and contemplating retirement every year. No team is going to give up a premium pick for a guy that might play 1 or 2 years...especially a team in rebuild mode who could really use those picks.

 

[kidhawk]

I agree that IF we were to try to trade Lynch, we'd likely not get much in return. With that said, we aren't trading Lynch. I see two options for Lynch, he retires or he takes a pay raise and sticks around in Seattle. I'm guessing he takes the money and one more shot at a super bowl run.

I don't think he'll be traded either, but I hope he'll retire.

FIFY

 

[Marvin49]

I agree that IF we were to try to trade Lynch, we'd likely not get much in return. With that said, we aren't trading Lynch. I see two options for Lynch, he retires or he takes a pay raise and sticks around in Seattle. I'm guessing he takes the money and one more shot at a super bowl run.

I don't think he'll be traded either, but I hope he'll retire.

FIFY

oh...no question...lol.

...but I do honestly think he will. He wanted to retire LAST year. He had trouble with his back THIS year. I just think he's one of those off-beat guys that's gonna leave the game before he has to. Maybe after a year or 2 he decides he wants to come back...who knows, but I think he leaves the game for this year at least.

I've always liked Marshawn since he was at Cal. I hate the way the media makes a mockery of his off-field demeanor. Dude is who he is. Its really weird for me honestly to like a guy on a team I dislike so much...but that's the deal.

 

[Bobblehead]

Damn, Colts give up a First for Trent, who on his best day, will never be Lynch's equal on Lynch's worst day.

Hell, lets just trade him to the Colts for one of their TE's.

 

[kidhawk]

I agree that IF we were to try to trade Lynch, we'd likely not get much in return. With that said, we aren't trading Lynch. I see two options for Lynch, he retires or he takes a pay raise and sticks around in Seattle. I'm guessing he takes the money and one more shot at a super bowl run.

I don't think he'll be traded either, but I hope he'll retire.

FIFY

oh...no question...lol.

...but I do honestly think he will. He wanted to retire LAST year. He had trouble with his back THIS year. I just think he's one of those off-beat guys that's gonna leave the game before he has to. Maybe after a year or 2 he decides he wants to come back...who knows, but I think he leaves the game for this year at least.

I've always liked Marshawn since he was at Cal. I hate the way the media makes a mockery of his off-field demeanor. Dude is who he is. Its really weird for me honestly to like a guy on a team I dislike so much...but that's the deal.

I don't find it all that weird. There's guys on lots of teams that I like, without liking the team itself, and historically there have been Seahawks players I didn't like but never wavered on my love for the team. IMO there's a huge difference in loving a team and loving a player. The two are completely separate, even though they seem to be so intertwined.


As for Lynch, I see where people might believe he's going to retire, and I would agree if we'd won that Super Bowl. The fact that he wanted the respect of a huge raise last off season, coupled with the fact that he's getting one offered this off season, tells me that he comes back, if for no other reason than to be able to say I told you so.

My prediction is he signs a 2-3 year deal, but retires after one more year.