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Welshers2

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Oh and get Harbaugh. Pete isn't going anywhere though so won't happen
 

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Mike MacDonald or Ben Johnson would interesting. Jim Harbaugh would be an interesting choice too.

To replace a legend like Pete, the ownership might have to go with a big name.
 

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I'm good with a background in D. But they need to hire a kick-ass OC who plays complementary football to the D.
Then he gets hired away in the next off-season as a HC.

This is why defensive HC coaches are going the way of the dodo.
 

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Then he gets hired away in the next off-season as a HC.

This is why defensive HC coaches are going the way of the dodo.
OC only gets hired away if he's highly successful. That would be a happier problem than we currently have. Don't recall Bevell being in high demand after SB49, but DC Quinn sure was. Things go in cycles in the NFL. Sure, *right now*, OCs are a hotter commodity, but a DC who can consistently stop high-powered offenses will be a hot commodity. Quinn is ready for another shot as a HC.

*Edit* Eagles with NO offensive TDs in a national TV game? Quinn will have multiple HC offers after that.
 
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Fire Pete Carrol
Fire John Schneider
Fire Shane Waldron
Fire Clint Hurtt

Trade Diggs
Trade Adams
Trade Lockett

Draft a QB (Penix, Nix or Daniels)
 

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Urban not only lost games, but he lost the support of the entire organization. His assistant coaches, most of whom are succeeding elsewhere, hated him. He was described as an abusive and unreasonable narcissist, and embarrassed his entire organization by refusing to travel with his team after a loss so he could try to fingerblast young ladies at a bar.

He was an absolute clown show and should not be touched at the NFL level ever again.
You got me at " fingerblast".

I thought I was the only one that used that term. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Abraham "stinkfinger" Lincoln
 

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I remember the same thing being said about a certain twice-fired NFL coach who was snatched up from USC.
No NFL team is going to touch him. For good reason.
 

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It has to be an offensive minded coach. You need a change and most of the teams having the most success are coming from offensive coaches. Ben Johnson would be interesting but Iā€™m not up to date on who the brightest minds are out there.
 

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Just don't be a defensive HC, and be under the age of 50.

No more crony coordinators as well.

The NFL over the 10 last has morphed into a hyper X's and O's league now. Scheme and QB is all that matters.

Offensive coaches dominate. Defensive coaches under achieve.

Pete gets an "F" in scheme. And it is why he is failing, and any positives you may want glean from him still are irrelevant.

Pete's record without Wilson carrying him is pedestrian and only getting worse.

The Seahawks need to stop playing checkers, and start playing chess.
Heā€™s under .500 without Wilson (before and after) and like 120-50 with him.
 

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In today's NFL, it's just as important that a coach be able to build a great overall coaching team, especially OC and DC, and have a great relationship/be on the same page as the GM on talent acquisition for systems run by the HC/OC/DC.

An offensive genius who sucks at other aspects of the leadership job probably won't have great success on the W/L unless they simply get lucky on their coordinator picks and the GM they inherit.

Let's look at two recent "offensive genius" coaches who have had success, and see if they had any other advantages that helped them in building a team and organization.
Kyle Shanahan - Yeah, I think being the son of two-time Super Bowl winning HC Mike Shanahan probably didn't hurt.
Sean McVay - Grandpa was an NFL coach AND GM. Also part of Mike Shanahan's coaching tree.

These guys both had highly successful leadership and managerial influences in their family trees and in their early coaching experiences, so they weren't overmatched by the HC job when their turn came.

Now consider Mike McCarthy. An uninspiring fired Green Bay retread to some, but he has the Cowboys performing at a high level as a legit contender, in large part due to bringing in DC Dan Quinn, and OC Brian Schottenheimer. McCarthy being the playcaller muddies the OC picture a bit, but in any case, retread old dog McCarthy has the Cowboys looking like they could go deep in the playoffs and even win a SB. He even has Dak playing at a much higher level.

Plenty of "what's hot right now" new HC's have fallen on their face because of leadership/culture/talent acquisition/bad coordinator hires. So let's hope, when the time comes, the Hawks don't pull a "Pete" and pursue whatever shiny object fascinates them in the moment, and hire the Percy Harvin or Jamal Adams (or Urban Meyer) of HC candidates. Let's hope they look deeper and find someone who has not just the Xs and Os guru tag, but also has the team leadership, culture, talent acquisition insight, and managerial skills to go with it.
 
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