Geno’s Sideline Body Language

[rjdriver]

This is somewhat part and parcel to the “Geno Slide” thread going on concurrently as they both pertain to decision making and awareness of surroundings.

I am reticent addressing this, because I agree with @SoulfishHawk in the aforementioned thread when he says “Geno is very low on the totem pole as far as our problems go”.

That said, I have concerns about the the sideline behavior that I have seen from Geno at various times in the last few years. Particularly this week against NYG. This whole “sulking, pouting, I feel sorry for myself as I isolate myself with my cans on when things don’t go our way” schtick rubs me the wrong away. We seem to be lacking a player leader on this team and that is part of a QB’s responsibility just as much as hitting targets. I want fire and positivity. In the other thread there are some comparisons to Cam’s reluctance to go for a SB fumble. Well, I’m seeing parallels to Cam’s sideline behavior as well, and it’s not appealing.

I’m on record as wanting Wilson gone early, but let’s not kid ourselves. That relentless positivity and “in the game” mentality we saw early in his career was contagious and inspiring. When I would see RW pacing the sideline and even spouting his rhetoric, I knew that (somehow) we were in the game.

I’m sure that this is just more emotional overreaction, but I was curious of anyone else shared my concern.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I think Geno realized he $&@!ed up and that point he thought he might have cost them the game and being more positive probably was not what the others were feeling as well…I don’t know.

To be honest, the Seahawks failed on every level against the Giants…not just Geno and his decision to not take the hit.

The coaches failed and all other players not named Geno also failed….

As long as the entire team including all coaches holds themselves accountable for that disaster, the team will be better off for it and learning from their mistakes.

But we have got to move on as well as long as we learned from it and can prepare adequately for the Niners this Thursday.

Lets gooooooo!!!

 

[hox]

Geno's been balling out all year. Think he's a little bit frustrated with all the drops, turnovers, false starts and penalties. In his post-game presser, he seemed more annoyed than usual.

Getting sacked 7 times probably doesn't help with his overall demeanor either.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. He had little to no chance back there. Which makes the 5 carries to K9 just plain maddening. If you're not blocking at all for the pass and the pocket is instantly collapsing? Run the f'ing ball. My god it pisses me off every time I think about it.

 

[toffee]

The Seahawks are throwing the ball at a VERY high rate, we are not a balanced offense at this point. As an aging QB, one wouldn't blame Geno for being concerned with overusing his arm.

 

[rjdriver]

No doubt. He had little to no chance back there. Which makes the 5 carries to K9 just plain maddening. If you're not blocking at all for the pass and the pocket is instantly collapsing? Run the f'ing ball. My god it pisses me off every time I think about it.

I agree with you and @hox

There has been adversity and he is under duress…

He has a reason to sulk. That’s not point though.

The point is your reaction and body language are your decision as well. You can take the RW approach of incessant belief and positivity. You can take the Alpha- Tommy approach of railing into your teammates and demanding better. Geno takes a third approach I don’t really think is conducive of winning ball.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Geno's been balling out all year. Think he's a little bit frustrated with all the drops, turnovers, false starts and penalties. In his post-game presser, he seemed more annoyed than usual.

Getting sacked 7 times probably doesn't help with his overall demeanor either.

Plus, with our line - he has a whopping 1.5 seconds to throw the ball typically.

 

[Rat]

I wouldnt necessarily call someone unreasonable for expecting better from a vet QB. Leonard Williams expressed concern about the body language he was seeing from teammates he didnt mention by name against the Giants. You'd hope your almost 34-year-old starting QB and team leader wouldn't be among the players setting that example.

To be fair, I haven't noticed or heard of this being a typical thing for Geno though. I can forgive it if it's not habitual for him and he learns from it.

 

[hgwellz12]

Objectively speaking, it's just not a good look. I NEVER want to see a player sulking/pouting. I've ALWAYS hated that shit. Cam Newton, Kyler Murray, Erin Rodgers, Jay Cutler ALL made/make me want to flying roundhouse kick their ass in the teef every time I saw that shit. There's actually not a worse expression of emotions to display for a QB, IMHO.

That said, I understand why he felt like that. He was f'n up, his teammates were f'n up, and his coaches were f'n up. Still, as the leader, that's the time to rally the troops and instill confidence and a sense of urgency. I, like you, always admired about Russ. It's one of the attributes that I constantly try to instill into my son.

ETA: some words

 

[CalgaryFan05]

No doubt. He had little to no chance back there. Which makes the 5 carries to K9 just plain maddening. If you're not blocking at all for the pass and the pocket is instantly collapsing? Run the f'ing ball. My god it pisses me off every time I think about it.

This X 1000.

And how about some screen passes too? Like let's adjust to the situation. If you got no time - play design like you've got no time.

I'm REALLY hoping that Grubb isn't Waldron 2.0 - just keep bashing your head against the same wall looking for a different result.....

I haven't gone super negative - but sheesh - lets see something encouraging....

 

[hox]

The point is your reaction and body language are your decision as well. You can take the RW approach of incessant belief and positivity. You can take the Alpha- Tommy approach of railing into your teammates and demanding better. Geno takes a third approach I don’t really think is conducive of winning ball.

Before they went uptempo in the 4th I saw him rally the offense in the huddle. They went down and scored.

Can he improve in the leadership dept of holding guys accountable? Sure. But the players in the locker room respect him.

Contrast with RW cheerleading style which works up to a point? Remember when RW was with the Broncos.. at half-time players ignored him when he was trying to high-five and shake their hands? That rah-rah style falls flat unless you're executing at a high level.