Friday Injury Report Week 5 (with Game Satus)

[HawkWow]

Several in this thread have a different opinion than myself on the percentages each designation should be assigned. If truly interested, I'd encourage those people to track all of the players listed in this weeks report. I'll bet no less than 75% play, regardless of their classification. Like I said earlier, it's something of a game within the game.

So you are saying that at least 10 of the 13 players on that list will play on Sunday?

I've been following the reports for the seahawks on Wed, Thurs and Fri for years now, and honestly, I find the odds of that happening fairly low. I really don't follow the rest of the league's injury reporting unless they are playing us, so I don't know how they trend, but with Pete, he often rests vets early in the week and lists them on the report, then will put them at probable at the end of the week and they play, so the mid week reports can have quite a few surprises on it, but usually by friday, the report is fairly accurate.

Officially the league has the percentages set at 25% for doubtful, 50% for questionable and 75% for probable, but here, it's more like 90% for probable and 30% for questionable and less than 10% for the doubtful. I couldn't tell you why he is the way he is, but that's what I've noticed in his tenure here.

I'm not doubting you in regards to Pete's approach 9as mentioned in my previous post). I have to look at the league as a whole and the fact I've not paid great attention to my own team, should suggest how little faith I put in injury reports.

I think it was last year that Belichick was upset with the league's latest stance on injury reports and started listing almost every payer on his roster. It could pretty much be said truthfully that every player is hurt in one way or another. I understand the 25% designated to the term doubtful. My point was most coaches (I thought all) play games with the report. Which makes sense. How badly do you want to stress the actual severity of an injured player to the opposition? That's why many will just say "doubtful" knowing the other coaches understand this could mean anything. Obviously this is even more true for questionable. Probable?? Why even put it in print? Probable is going to play.

 

[DavidSeven]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

To the layman, yes.

What league are you following? Doubtful is as good as OUT for almost every team in the league and that's especially true for the Seahawks.

You a betting man?

I would love to take your money, but just so we're on an equal playing field...

Doubtful (D): The "doubtful" designation theoretically means a player has less than a 25 percent chance of playing that week. Rarely does a player labeled as doubtful end up playing, unless he experiences a major turnaround before game time. Fantasy owners who need to make roster adjustments beforehand can feel fairly confident about sitting a player listed as doubtful.

http://espn.go.com/blog/stephania-bell/ ... for-week-1

DOUBTFUL: The NFL says that players listed here should have a 25 percent chance of playing. We have only seen a handful of cases over the years of players listed as doubtful actually making it to kickoff. This is essentially another way of listing a player as out, and teams know it. In fact, a couple of teams hardly ever use the doubtful designation because it insinuates that a player won't play. Instead, they use questionable.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... y/11892868

 

[Seahwkgal]

I am not caring much for the front office at the T.E. position this off season. That, and experienced O-Line depth are my 2 major beefs.

But what the hell do I know?

Cry? That's what I do.

 

[HawkWow]

Hey David...not looking to pick an argument with you or anyone else. I have said repeatedly I understand the leagues designations. I also said this is not the way coaches utilize the report and I am drawing from too much experience to go into here. You likely wouldn't believe me anyway.

I also stated that the league has been clamping down on the way the report is typically manipulated. This is common knowledge in every gambling circle I've been part of. There's stats, lies and injury reports. I did learn something here. I was not aware how closely Pete plays this to the vest. Believe me, I wish they all did because as I said, til now, the reports have been damn near useless. Another reason many gamblers shy away from the report is that too much emphasis gets put on injuries. I'm speaking of non-QB injuries. Take a look at an opening line one day. Watch how little it moves based on the injury report. Many see the report and the sky starts falling...but nobody betting consequential money is moving the line based on the report. I think that speaks volumes in itself.

...and you can't have my money. ; ) Retired at the moment. Even when successful, it is a very good practice to step back once in a while. Sometimes I make book, other times I preach the evils of gambling. Depends on where my head's at. Right now, I am discouraging several young players I know from continuing down their reckless paths. There are few addictions as bad as gambling. It may just be the worst. I can point to several instances of why if anyone is actually interested.

 

[loafoftatupu]

How in the hell are the Hawks supposed to win this game with all the injuries up front on offense?

This is just crazy. The Hawks are going to need a HUGE game from special teams and defense to win this.

Oh yeah, I forgot... Russell Wilson is the QB. Nevermind...

 

[hawks4thewin]

well let me point out that that tight end davis is our best blocker at the position or Damn near miller. penalties however /shrug. Willson is good too. i'm not worried. we didn't use Zach to much in the Texans game.
I think the O line will be fine. and we will do just fine with 2 tight ends. I would however like to point out if we are going to do quick dumps we should use MIchael. and not turbo.
but i'm not offence coordinator.. but i'm a hell of a madden one... so take that ... giggle..

don't worry we got this.

 

[Keyhawk]

I am not caring much for the front office at the T.E. position this off season. That, and experienced O-Line depth are my 2 major beefs.

But what the hell do I know?

Agree. Those are my beefs too.

 

[SE174]

On the flip side, Colts defense is less formidable than Houston's, and our pass rush should be much better with Irvin and possibly Hill. Will likely be a low scoring game.

 

[SilkMonkey]

I thought it was ranges sort of like this (not exact)

Probable: 75-99%
Questionable: 45-74%
Doubtful: 44-10%
Out: 0%

I don't think I've seen anyone doubtful play in a few years; at least Hawks wise.

I think if you're NE, everyone is questionable every week.

 

[onanygivensunday]

According to what I read yesterday (ESPN, Blount?), Hill won't be playing this week even though he has been cleared.
fwiw

 

[HawkWow]

I thought it was ranges sort of like this (not exact)

Probable: 75-99%
Questionable: 45-74%
Doubtful: 44-10%
Out: 0%

I don't think I've seen anyone doubtful play in a few years; at least Hawks wise.

I think if you're NE, everyone is questionable every week.

You and I basically see this the same way. It's all very subjective (is a guy 25% or actually 33%?). The point I was really trying to make is that the report acts as much as a tool (for coaches) as it is a factual report. I also stated that the league has really been pissing and moaning about some of the shenanigans that goes on with the reports so maybe that's why the "doubtful" are now in deed doubtful.

If Miller is definitely out...I am definitely worried. I think we will have to unleash the (mini) beast early. RW will have to create his own space and will be forced to think on his feet, and use his feet. At least enough to put question in the mind of the D.

Unsure if they've worked on such a thing...but it might be advantageous to bring Michael in, then after breaking the huddle, have RW go into the backfield (and stay there) while Michael goes to shotgun. If nothing else, it may force Indy to burn a T.O. and/or Michael could break one if he can get to the edge. Crazy? Perhaps...but I'm just enjoying this high too much for it to end now. With our blocking nearly decimated, I'd like to pull out the stops (as long as RW is safely tucked away). Go Hawks!