Friday Injury Report Week 5 (with Game Satus)

[kidhawk]

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OUT: Giacomini and Ware

DOUBTFUL: Lane

QUESTIONABLE: Miller & Unger

PROBABLE: Bennett, Clemons, Hill, Johnson, Lynch, Mebane, Thurmond & Wright


Everyone listed as PROBABLE was a full participant in practice....The rest Did NOT Participate in Friday's practice


Nothing groundbreaking here. I heard Pete said that Miller & Unger are gameday decisions. This is usually a poor sign

 

[Largent80]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

 

[kidhawk]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

 

[Basis4day]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

You're probably correct. I think we'll get a signal depending on who they cut to make room for Irvin (Sometime tomorrow?).

Prediction. If anyone other than Spitz is cut, Unger is gonna be out.

 

[Blitzer88]

If Miller is out than we are in big trouble!

 

[Throwdown]

We got Hill back? LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Largent80]

I am not caring much for the front office at the T.E. position this off season. That, and experienced O-Line depth are my 2 major beefs.

But what the hell do I know?

 

[HawkWow]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

Actually, teams almost always suggest an injury is worse than it is. Truer numbers would more resemble:
Probable= 100%.
Questionable= 75%
Doubtful = 50%

The NFL has guidelines they expect all teams to follow. But most often, with the exception of a player being listed as OUT, the injury report is more slanted towards spreading mis-information. "Game time decision" adds to the gamesmanship of it all, and the coach that lists his player as such, will be monitored along with the player, by the league. If that player plays, and does so without signs of injury, the FO will get a letter voicing the displeasure of Mr. Goodell.

In short, don't spend too much time concerned with injury reports. If the player is not officially listed as out, there's a very good chance he will play. I think this pertains to Max.

 

[DavidSeven]

75%? I don't think that's true. There have been a handful of guys who were listed as Questionable going into Sundays this season, and I'm pretty sure none of them ended up playing. I'd honestly be pretty dang surprised if Miller or Unger played at this point.

 

[formido]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

Actually, teams almost always suggest an injury is worse than it is. Truer numbers would more resemble:
Probable= 100%.
Questionable= 75%
Doubtful = 50%

The NFL has guidelines they expect all teams to follow. But most often, with the exception of a player being listed as OUT, the injury report is more slanted towards spreading mis-information. "Game time decision" adds to the gamesmanship of it all, and the coach that lists his player as such, will be monitored along with the player, by the league. If that player plays, and does so without signs of injury, the FO will get a letter voicing the displeasure of Mr. Goodell.

In short, don't spend too much time concerned with injury reports. If the player is not officially listed as out, there's a very good chance he will play. I think this pertains to Max.

I wish that were the case. Carroll seems to be optimistic in his injury tags.

 

[bigcc]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

Who would you guys take back between Unger and Miller (let's assume whoever you choose is actually healthy) if you could only choose one?



EDIT: Which sucks, Lane is possibly the best gunner in the league

 

[kidhawk]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

Actually, teams almost always suggest an injury is worse than it is. Truer numbers would more resemble:
Probable= 100%.
Questionable= 75%
Doubtful = 50%

The NFL has guidelines they expect all teams to follow. But most often, with the exception of a player being listed as OUT, the injury report is more slanted towards spreading mis-information. "Game time decision" adds to the gamesmanship of it all, and the coach that lists his player as such, will be monitored along with the player, by the league. If that player plays, and does so without signs of injury, the FO will get a letter voicing the displeasure of Mr. Goodell.

In short, don't spend too much time concerned with injury reports. If the player is not officially listed as out, there's a very good chance he will play. I think this pertains to Max.

This would have been more true of our Holmgren led team, and of many teams around the league, but when you follow the Seahawks and Pete closely, you tend to get a feel for how different he is than the rest. There is an outside shot that Unger and Miller plays, but it's not even 50% and it's certainly not 75%. When Pete says it's a gametime decision, the historical numbers would show that more often than not, they don't play, ESPECIALLY when they can't practice on Friday.

 

[RichNhansom]

So possible we are looking at no Giac, Unger, Okung and now Miller? That is horrible news. At least Miller was there last game.

Bevell better draw up some quick dump offs, screens and slants and use that shotgun alot more this week. It will hurt our running game but it might be our only chance to have an offense.

 

[DavidSeven]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

Who would you guys take back between Unger and Miller (let's assume whoever you choose is actually healthy) if you could only choose one?



EDIT: Which sucks, Lane is possibly the best gunner in the league

Outside of RW, I thought the two guys we could least afford to lose were probably Okung and Miller due to depth issues. I'd probably put Unger #4 if I really thought about it. So, this is all just really great...

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Pete doesn't usually play his game-time decisions. Get ready for more of Lemuel, who fortunately was a decent backup.

 

[HawkWow]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

To the layman, yes.

 

[DavidSeven]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

To the layman, yes.

What league are you following? Doubtful is as good as OUT for almost every team in the league and that's especially true for the Seahawks.

 

[HawkWow]

Questionable is what?...50-50%

Officially Questionable is supposed to be 50/50, but being a gametime decision, I'd say it's more like 10/90 to be honest. It doesn't sound great especially given they didn't practice

Actually, teams almost always suggest an injury is worse than it is. Truer numbers would more resemble:
Probable= 100%.
Questionable= 75%
Doubtful = 50%

The NFL has guidelines they expect all teams to follow. But most often, with the exception of a player being listed as OUT, the injury report is more slanted towards spreading mis-information. "Game time decision" adds to the gamesmanship of it all, and the coach that lists his player as such, will be monitored along with the player, by the league. If that player plays, and does so without signs of injury, the FO will get a letter voicing the displeasure of Mr. Goodell.

In short, don't spend too much time concerned with injury reports. If the player is not officially listed as out, there's a very good chance he will play. I think this pertains to Max.

This would have been more true of our Holmgren led team, and of many teams around the league, but when you follow the Seahawks and Pete closely, you tend to get a feel for how different he is than the rest. There is an outside shot that Unger and Miller plays, but it's not even 50% and it's certainly not 75%. When Pete says it's a gametime decision, the historical numbers would show that more often than not, they don't play, ESPECIALLY when they can't practice on Friday.

Interesting. I've not noticed that about Pete so will take your word for it. Definitely not the usual ploy historically used by coaches. I spent 2 decades making book and in that time learned to not be concerned with a player's health, or status, unless he is listed as out. It confuses me as to why Pete doesn't feel compelled to engage in such activity along with his peers. I like it though.

Several in this thread have a different opinion than myself on the percentages each designation should be assigned. If truly interested, I'd encourage those people to track all of the players listed in this weeks report. I'll bet no less than 75% play, regardless of their classification. Like I said earlier, it's something of a game within the game.

 

[HawkWow]

doubtful=50%?????

Doubtful is nearly just as good as OUT for the game

To the layman, yes.

What league are you following? Doubtful is as good as OUT for almost every team in the league and that's especially true for the Seahawks.

You a betting man?

 

[kidhawk]

Several in this thread have a different opinion than myself on the percentages each designation should be assigned. If truly interested, I'd encourage those people to track all of the players listed in this weeks report. I'll bet no less than 75% play, regardless of their classification. Like I said earlier, it's something of a game within the game.

So you are saying that at least 10 of the 13 players on that list will play on Sunday?

I've been following the reports for the seahawks on Wed, Thurs and Fri for years now, and honestly, I find the odds of that happening fairly low. I really don't follow the rest of the league's injury reporting unless they are playing us, so I don't know how they trend, but with Pete, he often rests vets early in the week and lists them on the report, then will put them at probable at the end of the week and they play, so the mid week reports can have quite a few surprises on it, but usually by friday, the report is fairly accurate.

Officially the league has the percentages set at 25% for doubtful, 50% for questionable and 75% for probable, but here, it's more like 90% for probable and 30% for questionable and less than 10% for the doubtful. I couldn't tell you why he is the way he is, but that's what I've noticed in his tenure here.