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Yes I was thinking Baldwin. Earl is long gone so didnt think about him.
My guess would be Baldwin. His heart seems to be with those who have departed. Probably his last year here unless his attitude makes a major change.Seymour":1wnt9okb said:iigakusei":1wnt9okb said:Addition by subtraction.
I think that unfortunately there is one more malcontent that needs to go before the purge is complete.
Has to be Earl?
He is as good as gone anyway.
Seymour":t7ks6o52 said:Baldwin is not a locker room problem IMO. Yes, he still is opinionated and has a big mouth at times, but he is a team player IMO. This surprises me. Baldwin even shoved Cable away in one sideline episode that he was letting Russ have his say with the Oline last year. He surely doesn't hate Russell like Sherman either.
I think he will be quick to dump on RW once he is gone too. Just my opinion of course. Anyway a discussion for the offseason I guess. Hopefully Doug is back close to 100% for the playoffs because we are going to need him.Seymour":r2vnonle said:Baldwin is not a locker room problem IMO. Yes, he still is opinionated and has a big mouth at times, but he is a team player IMO. This surprises me. Baldwin even shoved Cable away in one sideline episode that he was letting Russ have his say with the Oline last year. He surely doesn't hate Russell like Sherman either.
Is this all because of the "really shitty thing to do" comment about letting Sherman go?
It kind of was, but that doesn't mean it didn't have to happen either.
Sgt. Largent":2qvh230s said:Seymour":2qvh230s said:Baldwin is not a locker room problem IMO. Yes, he still is opinionated and has a big mouth at times, but he is a team player IMO. This surprises me. Baldwin even shoved Cable away in one sideline episode that he was letting Russ have his say with the Oline last year. He surely doesn't hate Russell like Sherman either.
Baldwin does seem different this year, and it's not just because he's frustrated with his injury.
He kinda has that distant "I know I'm not getting a new contract so I'm gonna be standoffish and petulant" demeanor going on........what with agreeing with Richard two weeks ago, etc.
Everyone else is 100% in, and Doug doesn't seem like he is right now.
Not that he's affecting the team, he's still conducting himself professionally. But IMO he's not all in either, because again I think there's some underlying thing going on with his tenure here coming to an end.
Seymour":334dl6rv said:Sgt. Largent":334dl6rv said:Seymour":334dl6rv said:Baldwin is not a locker room problem IMO. Yes, he still is opinionated and has a big mouth at times, but he is a team player IMO. This surprises me. Baldwin even shoved Cable away in one sideline episode that he was letting Russ have his say with the Oline last year. He surely doesn't hate Russell like Sherman either.
Baldwin does seem different this year, and it's not just because he's frustrated with his injury.
He kinda has that distant "I know I'm not getting a new contract so I'm gonna be standoffish and petulant" demeanor going on........what with agreeing with Richard two weeks ago, etc.
Everyone else is 100% in, and Doug doesn't seem like he is right now.
Not that he's affecting the team, he's still conducting himself professionally. But IMO he's not all in either, because again I think there's some underlying thing going on with his tenure here coming to an end.
Damn....pretty surprised to see you on that side here? Could be I suppose, but he is only in year 2 of a 4 year deal. He doesn't need a contract right now anyway.
Baldwin and Sherm go clear back to college together, so I have no issue with his comment. It really was a shitting thing to do and we could use Sherman. That does NOT mean it wasn't necessary though. I think Baldwin was talking about what Sherm did for the team and the injury side being shitty to let go then.
I'll take it 1 step further. I bet Schnieder and Pete would admit it was a shitty thing to do. But it's part if their job and was necessary.
Sgt. Largent":2lprbsbo said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
Seymour":d5o5985k said:Sgt. Largent":d5o5985k said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Sgt. Largent":3cztxpvz said:Seymour":3cztxpvz said:Sgt. Largent":3cztxpvz said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Not all in to me is looking like this last night.
To be fair, Doug pretty much looks like this all the time............but he wasn't exactly running up and down the sidelines celebrating with his teammates during and after the game.
Just more pensive and solemn than usual. Could just be he's bummed that he's not playing, but IMO it's more than that.
We'll see. What I do know is we need him, so I'm just fine with resting his ass for another week or two so he's as healthy as he can be going into the playoffs. No need to keep rushing him back early with both knee and now a groin issue.
“You try to let them know you don’t have to be the dudes that used to be here,’’ Wagner said. “You don’t have to be like Sherm, don’t have to be like Kam. Those are amazing players, once-in-a-lifetime players. You don’t have to do that. Just go out and do your job. You don’t have to be anyone else. Guys are going out there and having fun and being themselves........
“We had a lot of doubters coming into this season, and we wanted to go out and prove everybody wrong, prove we had the talent, had the leadership, we had the players to make plays,’’ Wagner said. “That’s what we’re doing. We’re growing each game, getting better each game, and that’s really all you want to do. You want to be the hot team toward the end of the season, and I feel that’s what we’re doing.
“We want to be the team that finishes well. You don’t want to be the team that starts hot and cools off at the end. You want to be a team that’s consistent throughout the season and just turns it up at the end of the season.”
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Sgt. Largent":1gba2gsw said:Seymour":1gba2gsw said:Sgt. Largent":1gba2gsw said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Not all in to me is looking like this last night.
To be fair, Doug pretty much looks like this all the time............but he wasn't exactly running up and down the sidelines celebrating with his teammates during and after the game.
Just more pensive and solemn than usual. Could just be he's bummed that he's not playing, but IMO it's more than that.
We'll see. What I do know is we need him, so I'm just fine with resting his ass for another week or two so he's as healthy as he can be going into the playoffs. No need to keep rushing him back early with both knee and now a groin issue.
JGreen79":3cjnrxwj said:Sgt. Largent":3cjnrxwj said:Seymour":3cjnrxwj said:Sgt. Largent":3cjnrxwj said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Not all in to me is looking like this last night.
To be fair, Doug pretty much looks like this all the time............but he wasn't exactly running up and down the sidelines celebrating with his teammates during and after the game.
Just more pensive and solemn than usual. Could just be he's bummed that he's not playing, but IMO it's more than that.
We'll see. What I do know is we need him, so I'm just fine with resting his ass for another week or two so he's as healthy as he can be going into the playoffs. No need to keep rushing him back early with both knee and now a groin issue.
The way I look ay it is... If he's not all in there why is he up standing next to the OC? He's a huge competitor, has been injured all year, the offense was garbage last night, and like Seymour said he's ADB for a reason.
Sgt. Largent":c1cp8e33 said:Seymour":c1cp8e33 said:Sgt. Largent":c1cp8e33 said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Not all in to me is looking like this last night.
To be fair, Doug pretty much looks like this all the time............but he wasn't exactly running up and down the sidelines celebrating with his teammates during and after the game.
Just more pensive and solemn than usual. Could just be he's bummed that he's not playing, but IMO it's more than that.
We'll see. What I do know is we need him, so I'm just fine with resting his ass for another week or two so he's as healthy as he can be going into the playoffs. No need to keep rushing him back early with both knee and now a groin issue.
Seanhawk":31vlig76 said:Sgt. Largent":31vlig76 said:Seymour":31vlig76 said:Sgt. Largent":31vlig76 said:Right, year three of four year deal is "renegotiation time" in the NFL, it's when you have one year left and you want to know if you're going to get a new deal...........and I think Doug knows he's not going to get a 3rd contract. Or hell, might even get cut after next year if he continues to have these nagging injuries. His cap hit is 10M in 2020.
But like I said, I don't think he's being a pain in the ass like Sherman and Bennett were last year that helped expedite their departures. But he also doesn't look like he's all in, that's all I'm saying.
To me, "not all in" means you are talking shit about your teammates or coaches to the point it is causing tension and or problems for the team. I just don't see that with Baldwin...but I do wonder about Doug at times I must admit.
Not all in to me is looking like this last night.
To be fair, Doug pretty much looks like this all the time............but he wasn't exactly running up and down the sidelines celebrating with his teammates during and after the game.
Just more pensive and solemn than usual. Could just be he's bummed that he's not playing, but IMO it's more than that.
We'll see. What I do know is we need him, so I'm just fine with resting his ass for another week or two so he's as healthy as he can be going into the playoffs. No need to keep rushing him back early with both knee and now a groin issue.
And if he's seen smiling with the way the offense was playing last night, he'd be accused of not caring.