Deflategate basically over after today's press conf

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hawknation2015":pr4qu2co said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/559814692936237057[/tweet]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is the man.
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Nice.
 

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hawknation2015":3broggql said:
HomerJHawk":3broggql said:
I dunno. After seeing the ball boy's picture, kinda gives me the impression he could go off the deep end.
Johnny's brother?

Just curious, where did you see his picture?

Brady and Belichick are going to let this poor bastard fall on his sword for them.

You mean Sgt. Largent's picture above isn't real? Guess I shoulda checked first. My bad. :roll:
 

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bigskydoc":10w9ijhd said:
furi0usbee":10w9ijhd said:
I'm having a hard time finding the part that says the Patriots must submit a ball weighing 12.5 - 13.5 PSI to the officials.

Section 2

BALL SUPPLY

Each team will make 12 primary balls available for testing by the Referee two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of the game to meet League requirements...

Section 1

BALL DIMENSIONS (in other words League requirements as referenced in section 2)

The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) urethane bladder...

There is is in blue and white

furi0usbee":10w9ijhd said:
#### MY FINAL POST ON THIS MATTER ####

Wait, is this your last post or was that? Somebody is getting confused here.


- bsd RPA

Yeah, I keep trying to leave.. LOL But the rule says "The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) urethane bladder..." but it's up to the ref to make the final determination. I can present a ball 10PSI or 17PSI, if the ref just squeezes it, well then.

Also, I see that NFL "ball boy" claim... I'm so done with this story, until the full NFL report. It's killing me. I have snow falling all around me and I don't plan on going anywhere for two days. Hopefully I'll have power so I can come on here and see what's up.

Funny, I've been to all the competition's forums, but I've never been to any Patriots forums. I guess I don't want to constantly hear how good our team is, etc. That talk gets boring quickly.
 

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[tweet]https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/559922839097073666[/tweet]
 

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Here is an interesting read on the topic:

""But as the data appears to indicate, since 2007, the footballs that the Patriots use on offense (or something else the Patriots do offensively) are completely dissimilar to the other 31 teams. Not just by a slight margin, but so massively that it is an injustice to possibly cite the persistent, obvious variance over 8 years could be attributed to “climatic conditions”, “atmospheric conditions”, a “rubbing process”, or an “equilibrium getting reached”".

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... other-team
 

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CamanoIslandJQ":2j1a7x4p said:
Here is an interesting read on the topic:

""But as the data appears to indicate, since 2007, the footballs that the Patriots use on offense (or something else the Patriots do offensively) are completely dissimilar to the other 31 teams. Not just by a slight margin, but so massively that it is an injustice to possibly cite the persistent, obvious variance over 8 years could be attributed to “climatic conditions”, “atmospheric conditions”, a “rubbing process”, or an “equilibrium getting reached”".

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... other-team

As an FYI, that article has been referenced multiple times on this site this week.
 

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Another article from that statistician over at Sharp Football Analysis. It looks like the fumble rate issue isn't just going away. He talks about that and refutes most of the arguments that Patsies have been flinging around in here, like Belichick ruthlessly benching\cutting fumble prone players, etc. His data shows that players actually fumble more after leaving the Pats than they did on teams they were on before joining the Pats.

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...umble-more-often-when-playing-for-other-teams

Interesting stuff.
 

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pats(t)roll":1w7aw3gu said:
From Headsmart Labs in Pittsburgh

“We took 12 brand new authentic NFL footballs and exposed them to the different elements they would
have experienced throughout the game.” said Thomas Healy, founder of HeadSmart Labs. “Out of the
twelve footballs we tested, we found that on average, footballs dropped 1.8 PSI when being exposed to
dropping temperatures and wet conditions.”
During testing, twelve brand new footballs were inflated to 12.5 PSI in a 75 degree Fahrenheit room.
This was to imitate the indoor conditions where the referees would have tested the footballs 2 hours
and 15 minutes before kickoff. The footballs were then moved to a 50 degree Fahrenheit environment
to simulate the temperatures that were experienced throughout the game. In addition, the footballs
were dampened to replicate the rainy conditions.
HeadSmart Labs found that on average the footballs dropped 1.1 PSI from the 25 degree temperature
change alone. The Lab also found that when the leather was wet, the ball dropped an additional 0.7
PSI. In combination, it was found that on average the footballs lost 1.8 PSI with a max of 1.95 PSI from
exposure to game day elements.

I highly doubt that the heat was turned up to 75 degrees in ANY room where the footballs were at ANY point during that day. Let's say that the balls DID deflate naturally...they didn't, but let's say they did. Why did the same thing NOT HAPPEN to the Colts footballs? Their footballs were in the same room for testing and then they made their way to the same field to be used in the same exact game, yet their footballs weren't deflated. If they were, there wouldn't be any outrage.

The circumstantial evidence is adding up. The investigation is going longer because they have found SOMETHING that needs to be looked at further. I'm sure they will find more info in the next few weeks and will have a patsy to serve up really soon. WHEN that happens, you will believe that that person did EVERYTHING on his own without marching orders because you're an idiot.
 

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TXHawk":1dy3f59n said:
Hasselbeck":1dy3f59n said:
Yep guys.. nothing to see here anymore. This is all over...

W8UcBbX

So you mean it wasn't an Immaculate Deflation after all?

I bet they find that same attendant taking detours throughout other stadiums with the Patriots footballs prior to road games.
 
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rigelian said:
To anyone who has seen the Cain Mutiny, Bill Belichick has morphed into a modern day version of Captain Queeg.

At this point the notion that a locker room attendant deflated the footballs doesn't even meet the laugh test. /quote]

Bingo, you're absolutely right
 

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50yrpatsfan":gwki8f6e said:
rigelian":gwki8f6e said:
To anyone who has seen the Cain Mutiny, Bill Belichick has morphed into a modern day version of Captain Queeg.

At this point the notion that a locker room attendant deflated the footballs doesn't even meet the laugh test. /quote]

Bingo, you're absolutely right

Well every witch hunt needs a scapegoat right?

Who better than a lowly locker room attendant that went rogue, even though we all know that attendant wouldn't wipe his own ass without someone telling him it's OK, let alone single handedly deflating balls.

If I was the Pat's PR manager, I'd cook up some story about this attendant being a life long Jets fan, who covertly worked his way into attaining this job just so he could sabotage Brady's footballs. Far more believable than the BS that's coming out of Pat's camp for sure.
 

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Sgt. Largent":363nz8o0 said:
50yrpatsfan":363nz8o0 said:
rigelian":363nz8o0 said:
To anyone who has seen the Cain Mutiny, Bill Belichick has morphed into a modern day version of Captain Queeg.

At this point the notion that a locker room attendant deflated the footballs doesn't even meet the laugh test. /quote]

Bingo, you're absolutely right

Well every witch hunt needs a scapegoat right?

Who better than a lowly locker room attendant that went rogue, even though we all know that attendant wouldn't wipe his own ass without someone telling him it's OK, let alone single handedly deflating balls.

If I was the Pat's PR manager, I'd cook up some story about this attendant being a life long Jets fan, who covertly worked his way into attaining this job just so he could sabotage Brady's footballs. Far more believable than the BS that's coming out of Pat's camp for sure.

GREAT!! Now these Patsies are going to start quoting you as an inside source statement of fact. SMH
 

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rideaducati":1bi9b2br said:
I bet they find that same attendant taking detours throughout other stadiums with the Patriots footballs prior to road games.
You could have a point there. Maybe that's what they're checking on now. If they find security camera footage of the guy taking Brady's balls into bathrooms in even half the visiting stadiums this year....
 

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50yrpatsfan":1war1eao said:
It's over, the league will have to back off, though I won't hold my breath for the apology they owe.
Dude... I suggest buying a case of condiments cuz you're gonna need 'em on your flock of crows.
 

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The league doesn't owe Kraft anything; they're just investigating. He should be asking the media for an apology if anything.
 
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