Best O-LINE still available

[SEAHAWKSTER77]

There are some decent oline options still available in free agency … I would take one or two of the best remaining to not make it such an early get for the draft ….

Cam Robinson T
Mekhi Becton G
Teven Jenkins G
Jedrick Willis T

 

[Streamhawk]

Becton and Jenkins would be great. Are there any centers that ran the wide zone?

 

[Sonichound16]

I am fully prepared to get bashed for this but maybe the Hawks really do believe that we have some good pieces already on the roster for the O-line and are comfortable with grabbing another guy or 2 in the draft if there is someone they like. I am actually a bit more worried about another viable WR but it seems like you can address that in the draft pretty easily. I am far from educated on the potential of offensive lineman but it doesn't seem like many come along that are instantly good and we have quite a few young guys on the squad, some of which were highly drafted and touted during the draft. Haynes was supposed to be a lock as a great guard, Lucas is apparently fully recovered, Laumea showed some flashes as a rookie. Will Fries, the guy that everyone is pissed about not signing to a huge deal, rode the pine his rookie year, played some snaps and became the staring guard week 10 of year 2, showed improvement in 2023 and then apparently turned the corner in 2024 only to get injured 5 games into the season and out for the rest of the year. Maybe it is the coaching/maybe it's the scheme...both of which are changing. Would it have been nice to get a guy that is deemed as an All-Pro caliber starter, sure, but I am not going to panic until I see the rest of Free Agency and the draft. We are setting ourselves up to be stocked with young talent and a ton of cap space when all the young guys should be rounding into form. Should be a fun ride!

 

[Seahawk_Dan]

There are some decent oline options still available in free agency … I would take one or two of the best remaining to not make it such an early get for the draft ….

Cam Robinson T
Mekhi Becton G
Teven Jenkins G
Jedrick Willis T

I imagine they'll try and sign one guard, either Jenkins or Becton to be the defacto starter and then go into the draft and draft high on guard.

 

[OneLofaTatupu]

I am fully prepared to get bashed for this but maybe the Hawks really do believe that we have some good pieces already on the roster for the O-line and are comfortable with grabbing another guy or 2 in the draft if there is someone they like. I am actually a bit more worried about another viable WR but it seems like you can address that in the draft pretty easily. I am far from educated on the potential of offensive lineman but it doesn't seem like many come along that are instantly good and we have quite a few young guys on the squad, some of which were highly drafted and touted during the draft. Haynes was supposed to be a lock as a great guard, Lucas is apparently fully recovered, Laumea showed some flashes as a rookie. Will Fries, the guy that everyone is pissed about not signing to a huge deal, rode the pine his rookie year, played some snaps and became the staring guard week 10 of year 2, showed improvement in 2023 and then apparently turned the corner in 2024 only to get injured 5 games into the season and out for the rest of the year. Maybe it is the coaching/maybe it's the scheme...both of which are changing. Would it have been nice to get a guy that is deemed as an All-Pro caliber starter, sure, but I am not going to panic until I see the rest of Free Agency and the draft. We are setting ourselves up to be stocked with young talent and a ton of cap space when all the young guys should be rounding into form. Should be a fun ride!

Well put. And let’s just say a rookie balls out and starts - then gets injured - a vet can step in

I dunno. Panic is addicting just like every other emotion.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Becton and Jenkins would be great. Are there any centers that ran the wide zone?

Jenkins is the best remaining to fit the incoming scheme. I'd be satisfied if JS could beat out Cincy & NYG to get him in Seattle. He's projecting a 3yr/$30m contract...so even if we overpay a bit, he's not gonna kill the cap and we'd have plenty of space to make a move if an A-lister becomes available.

Becton was atrocious with the Jets, but was decent though not great in Philly under the OL savant. He's described as a road grader in the run game but pass blocking was still bottom 1/2. I could see him coming in and laying an egg like so many other OL we've brought in over the last 10 years. Probably better to commit 1 of the top 5 in the draft to the position instead of taking Becton.

I think we have our Center on the team (Olu, Sundell, or Laumea) unless they draft somebody.

 

[FLSeahawk]

Jenkins is the best remaining to fit the incoming scheme. I'd be satisfied if JS could beat out Cincy & NYG to get him in Seattle. He's projecting a 3yr/$30m contract...so even if we overpay a bit, he's not gonna kill the cap and we'd have plenty of space to make a move if an A-lister becomes available.

Becton was atrocious with the Jets, but was decent though not great in Philly under the OL savant. He's described as a road grader in the run game but pass blocking was still bottom 1/2. I could see him coming in and laying an egg like so many other OL we've brought in over the last 10 years. Probably better to commit 1 of the top 5 in the draft to the position instead of taking Becton.

I think we have our Center on the team (Olu, Sundell, or Laumea) unless they draft somebody.

I’m thinking the exact same thing

 

[nwHawk]

Center is the area I’m a bit concerned with because I’m not sure Olu has the quickness for the scheme. Well, at least to be a stud. Liked him over Evan Brown, but I could see the team trying to get a better player.

 

[OneLofaTatupu]

I like Jake majors in later rounds

Edit: also play calling shit on the online - pass pro 99% of the time and the defense knows this really limits things - but I digress

 

[Azvacar]

I am fully prepared to get bashed for this but maybe the Hawks really do believe that we have some good pieces already on the roster for the O-line and are comfortable with grabbing another guy or 2 in the draft if there is someone they like. I am actually a bit more worried about another viable WR but it seems like you can address that in the draft pretty easily. I am far from educated on the potential of offensive lineman but it doesn't seem like many come along that are instantly good and we have quite a few young guys on the squad, some of which were highly drafted and touted during the draft. Haynes was supposed to be a lock as a great guard, Lucas is apparently fully recovered, Laumea showed some flashes as a rookie. Will Fries, the guy that everyone is pissed about not signing to a huge deal, rode the pine his rookie year, played some snaps and became the staring guard week 10 of year 2, showed improvement in 2023 and then apparently turned the corner in 2024 only to get injured 5 games into the season and out for the rest of the year. Maybe it is the coaching/maybe it's the scheme...both of which are changing. Would it have been nice to get a guy that is deemed as an All-Pro caliber starter, sure, but I am not going to panic until I see the rest of Free Agency and the draft. We are setting ourselves up to be stocked with young talent and a ton of cap space when all the young guys should be rounding into form. Should be a fun ride!

Great post sir... I feel the same way.

Not sure I am as worried about WR as you since we will be running 2 / 2 sets... Bobo lending to almost a third TE, MV can run those goes to at least keep them on the heels and you never know about the draft. JSN Was open so much because he runs AMAZING routes and the safety is always shading to a big fast WR running a straight line to the end zone.

Im confident in the scheme change personally if Haynes improves or becomes the Guard he was suppose to be? Olu had to keep being shifted in and out he might still not be a bad backup and the heavy zone scheme might help him because of size.. react instead of attack etc

As far as running back and what I saw at the end of the year... I wanna see McIntosh get some more carries.. his burst to the quick hole, etc. Maybe that won't lend as well to ZBS but... Im not sure walkers dance and dunk (as much as I love him) will develop as well under the system?

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Our offensive line coach last year was coaching at that position for the very first time. He wasn't kept around and it's possible that Haynes, Olu, and/or Laumea could still have talent to be drawn out.

 

[Shane Falco]

Center is the area I’m a bit concerned with because I’m not sure Olu has the quickness for the scheme. Well, at least to be a stud. Liked him over Evan Brown, but I could see the team trying to get a better player.

I am of the opposite mind. I feel like center was average and was improving but the guards left on the roster have shown nothing yet. Which I admit they could, we might even end up with a very good one out of the bunch in time. But I wouldn't go into the season banking on it. We also lost Laken Tomlinson, who wasn't great but he was the better guard of em all.

 

[Rat]

Not free agency, but whoever gets Wyatt Milum in the draft is getting a huge steal. I hope it's us. Crazy to me that he's considered a day 2 pick now.

 

[Sonichound16]

Well put. And let’s just say a rookie balls out and starts - then gets injured - a vet can step in

I dunno. Panic is addicting just like every other emotion.

Thanks. I agree about the panic and emotions thing. I find myself thinking one thing and getting all stoked or discouraged and then questioning that after reading some posts and listening to KJR and then going back in and taking a good look. At the end of the day it is a crap shoot and you never really know who is going to pan out and who is going to flame out. I get all worked up on game day and of course have guys I would like to see targeted in the draft and FA but I guess you just have to trust that the guys that are getting paid more per year than I will make in my life to make the right decisions. I do my fair share of arm chair GM/coaching though!

 

[Sonichound16]

Great post sir... I feel the same way.

Not sure I am as worried about WR as you since we will be running 2 / 2 sets... Bobo lending to almost a third TE, MV can run those goes to at least keep them on the heels and you never know about the draft. JSN Was open so much because he runs AMAZING routes and the safety is always shading to a big fast WR running a straight line to the end zone.

Im confident in the scheme change personally if Haynes improves or becomes the Guard he was suppose to be? Olu had to keep being shifted in and out he might still not be a bad backup and the heavy zone scheme might help him because of size.. react instead of attack etc

As far as running back and what I saw at the end of the year... I wanna see McIntosh get some more carries.. his burst to the quick hole, etc. Maybe that won't lend as well to ZBS but... Im not sure walkers dance and dunk (as much as I love him) will develop as well under the system?

Thanks Azvacar. I am thinking WR for this year and long term. I can't imagine that we aren't going to spend one of our top 4 picks on a WR if not one of the 1st 2. I have to admit that I am really hoping that Walker can shed the injury bug and thrives in the system. With the RPO being such a big part of this offense, having a guy like him that is a threat to break off a big run at any time either through hitting the hole or bouncing one and making something out of nothing is such a huge weapon. It also doesn't hurt that I have his signed jersey . I really liked what I saw from McIntosh and Charbonet as well though and think we are pretty set at RB. This draft is so deep at RB that I wouldn't be surprised to see them grab another one though.

 

[dutchcoug]

I am fully prepared to get bashed for this but maybe the Hawks really do believe that we have some good pieces already on the roster for the O-line and are comfortable with grabbing another guy or 2 in the draft if there is someone they like. I am actually a bit more worried about another viable WR but it seems like you can address that in the draft pretty easily. I am far from educated on the potential of offensive lineman but it doesn't seem like many come along that are instantly good and we have quite a few young guys on the squad, some of which were highly drafted and touted during the draft. Haynes was supposed to be a lock as a great guard, Lucas is apparently fully recovered, Laumea showed some flashes as a rookie. Will Fries, the guy that everyone is pissed about not signing to a huge deal, rode the pine his rookie year, played some snaps and became the staring guard week 10 of year 2, showed improvement in 2023 and then apparently turned the corner in 2024 only to get injured 5 games into the season and out for the rest of the year. Maybe it is the coaching/maybe it's the scheme...both of which are changing. Would it have been nice to get a guy that is deemed as an All-Pro caliber starter, sure, but I am not going to panic until I see the rest of Free Agency and the draft. We are setting ourselves up to be stocked with young talent and a ton of cap space when all the young guys should be rounding into form. Should be a fun ride!

Totally with you on this. Clearly we're looking to upgrade at least 1 guard, otherwise we wouldn't have been in on Will Fries. He's the only player to get 5 years, which would make sense if he had more of a track record and wasn't coming off an injury that wiped out most of last season for him. I think we'll see someone already on the roster make a leap this year and lock down one of the guard spots. I think signing Jenkins and drafting 1 more guard will greatly improve things. Center we're going to have to stay in house but also look to draft someone like Jared Wilson or Jake Majors. Don't rule out any trades, we have cap space and draft capital that could land us someone solid at either position.

 

[sutz]

I am fully prepared to get bashed for this but maybe the Hawks really do believe that we have some good pieces already on the roster for the O-line and are comfortable with grabbing another guy or 2 in the draft if there is someone they like. I am actually a bit more worried about another viable WR but it seems like you can address that in the draft pretty easily. I am far from educated on the potential of offensive lineman but it doesn't seem like many come along that are instantly good and we have quite a few young guys on the squad, some of which were highly drafted and touted during the draft. Haynes was supposed to be a lock as a great guard, Lucas is apparently fully recovered, Laumea showed some flashes as a rookie. Will Fries, the guy that everyone is pissed about not signing to a huge deal, rode the pine his rookie year, played some snaps and became the staring guard week 10 of year 2, showed improvement in 2023 and then apparently turned the corner in 2024 only to get injured 5 games into the season and out for the rest of the year. Maybe it is the coaching/maybe it's the scheme...both of which are changing. Would it have been nice to get a guy that is deemed as an All-Pro caliber starter, sure, but I am not going to panic until I see the rest of Free Agency and the draft. We are setting ourselves up to be stocked with young talent and a ton of cap space when all the young guys should be rounding into form. Should be a fun ride!

I've been singing that song for a while now. Our line wasn't very good, for sure, but they were mostly young, 1st and 2d year guys that just might have some improvement in them with good coaching and experience. We'll see as the off season plays out. As of now it doesn't look like wholesale changes are in the offing.

Having said that, I never complain about drafting OL. That's one squad that you have to keep feeding new guys into the chain, precisely because they so seldom shine as rookies. Most take 2-3 years before they reach their potential.

 

[Seahawker]

There's a reason some of these guys aren't signed, lots of sacks given up & penalties, I'd be careful shoveling money at this bunch, maybe someone like Cam Robinson if he can move to guard, but that's a project. Might still be someone cap cut casualty, the draft & preseason cutdowns. There is gonna be a lot of competition for offensive lineman in this draft, might have to use our 1st & a 2nd.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

There are some decent oline options still available in free agency … I would take one or two of the best remaining to not make it such an early get for the draft ….

Cam Robinson T
Mekhi Becton G
Teven Jenkins G
Jedrick Willis T

Hello no on any of the linemen left. Becton does not fit and he's bad at pass pro. Robinson and Willis we don't need for the price as a 3rd Tackle, Willis has struggled at Tackle. Jenkins is the only guard on here and JS and MM talk about wanting football players who love football. Jenkins has a lot of minor injuries he refuses to play through which tells you about his passion for the game and toughness.

Hard pass on all of these guys. There are many players in the draft that are a huge upgrade, while unproven, that would be better suited for this team.

 

[Seahawker]

Hello no on any of the linemen left. Becton does not fit and he's bad at pass pro. Robinson and Willis we don't need for the price as a 3rd Tackle, Willis has struggled at Tackle. Jenkins is the only guard on here and JS and MM talk about wanting football players who love football. Jenkins has a lot of minor injuries he refuses to play through which tells you about his passion for the game and toughness.

Hard pass on all of these guys. There are many players in the draft that are a huge upgrade, while unproven, that would be better suited for this team.

I agree, really hope JS doesn't hammer out a cheap deal for a crap guard just to do his due diligence and appease the 12's.
Reset. Build everything else. Draft 2 OL high and save 15-20M in case a veteran becomes available later.
Our defense is going to have to take an even bigger step up.