Asking Pete the tough questions

[hawk45]

2 screens all game, empty backfields, giving up on the run, it's like our coaches aren't even aware that the OL sucks and that's the frustration. The fans get that nothing can magically be done to replace the tackles, so how about go to max protect? I mean would that really have been worse than what we saw last night? We'd still have zero offense, but Russell would have a fighting chance.

I would support max protect, running the ball too much (vs too little), more screens, more rollouts, and I wouldn't complain if the shortcomings of all of those types of plays were made manifest. At this point it's between having no offense but a breathing QB and having no offense and a dead QB.

 

[Tech Worlds]

I want the questions to be answered by fixing the problems on the field. Outside of that I don't really care what him or anybody else has to say about it.

This is my view; what the OP wants isn't a helpful strategy against the teams we'll play coming up.

Pete: Here's what I should have done, and here's what we're going to do to fix it... (fill in the blank)
Harbaugh: Thanks, Pete, for being so publicly accountable; good on ya'.

Sure. Sounds good.

Watch and either stew or be a peace, but PC is not ultimately accountable to the OP or any other fan; only to Paul Allen who pays his check. If they have a plan, and PA is fine with it, what makes you think you have the right to any in-depth explanation at all?

I didnt say he owed me anything. I just want him to tell me that he screwed up and that its not going to happen again. That would make me feel better that we might be able to have Russell finish the season.

 

[bestfightstory]

There's a fine line between being inquisitive and probing or invasive and belligerent.

I'm with Dom. This is an outrage.

The Seattle softball media needs to step it up a bit.

Always Compete, Seattle Media. Always Compete.

Sure helps the Jets

I Anticipated this comment which is why I differentiated between inquisitive and belligerent. Yet you still went there. Try reading more better.

 

[Tech Worlds]

2 screens all game, empty backfields, giving up on the run, it's like our coaches aren't even aware that the OL sucks and that's the frustration. The fans get that nothing can magically be done to replace the tackles, so how about go to max protect? I mean would that really have been worse than what we saw last night? We'd still have zero offense, but Russell would have a fighting chance.

I would support max protect, running the ball too much (vs too little), more screens, more rollouts, and I wouldn't complain if the shortcomings of all of those types of plays were made manifest. At this point it's between having no offense but a breathing QB and having no offense and a dead QB.

Thanks. you said it quite a bit better then I did.

 

[Ad Hawk]

I didnt say he owed me anything. I just want him to tell me that he f'ed up and that its not going to happen again. That would make me feel better that we might be able to have Russell finish the season.

PC doesn't really care how fans feel, after all is said and done. Why demand some kind of personal (or "fan") apology and platitudes?

But I guarantee he probably cares more about RW than we do, however, as his job does ride on success and player health. I'd imagine that kind of pressure should be enough to convince you he's working to change it. If he doesn't know how to make the changes, or doesn't have the personnel, those are problems indeed, but may not be something he must apologize for; that apology will come when he's fired.

 

[Tical21]

I've discussed this ad nauseam around here today, so I will keep this brief, and feel free to look at the over Marshawn and Bevell threads for a little bit more depth, but I support that Bevell was stubborn in trying to stick with the game plan of trying to complete slants. You only need to get cute if you can't complete the basic plays like slants and fades. We need to get a lot better at those plays, by hook or by crook. No better way to try to work out the kinks than in the middle of a real game when you're 6-1 and still winning the game.

If we were more desparate, sure, run 9 screens, run gimmick rollouts and put a band-aid on the fact that you just can't complete a slant play. I am very thankful to Bevell for not doing that, as there will be huge benefits down the road when we start to burn teams with the slant.

 

[Donn2390]

Even if they ask, or push him hard (as Paul Allen might) what do you expect him to actually divulge that he hasn't already said in press conferences, on KJR, etc.?

Paul Allen is one million miles from the football field... He is more than happy with his excellent coach..
Fans are so fickle, one day you love him, the next day he is a bum.. I suggest letting him coach the team and quit with the second guessing every decision..

 

[bestfightstory]

I've discussed this ad nauseam around here today, so I will keep this brief, and feel free to look at the over Marshawn and Bevell threads for a little bit more depth, but I support that Bevell was stubborn in trying to stick with the game plan of trying to complete slants. You only need to get cute if you can't complete the basic plays like slants and fades. We need to get a lot better at those plays, by hook or by crook. No better way to try to work out the kinks than in the middle of a real game when you're 6-1 and still winning the game.

If we were more desparate, sure, run 9 screens, run gimmick rollouts and put a band-aid on the fact that you just can't complete a slant play. I am very thankful to Bevell for not doing that, as there will be huge benefits down the road when we start to burn teams with the slant.

Interesting take. People here have been yammering for the quick slants for weeks now. Well, we tried them last night.

I err on the side of believing 99% of coaches at the professional level are much smarter about football than 99.9999999999% of posters at .NET.

So when they do something that either does not work OR does not make sense to me, I assume there is a good reason for it which I cannot see or haven't thought of.

Your theory is a good one.

 

[hawk45]

I've discussed this ad nauseam around here today, so I will keep this brief, and feel free to look at the over Marshawn and Bevell threads for a little bit more depth, but I support that Bevell was stubborn in trying to stick with the game plan of trying to complete slants. You only need to get cute if you can't complete the basic plays like slants and fades. We need to get a lot better at those plays, by hook or by crook. No better way to try to work out the kinks than in the middle of a real game when you're 6-1 and still winning the game.

If we were more desparate, sure, run 9 screens, run gimmick rollouts and put a band-aid on the fact that you just can't complete a slant play. I am very thankful to Bevell for not doing that, as there will be huge benefits down the road when we start to burn teams with the slant.

Not if you have to raise Russell from the dead to benefit from it.

Throw slants from max protect. Besides, the idea is the OL injuries are temporary. Worry about keeping your QB alive during the temporary issue, not about some far-off future gain that may or may not happen. Then your tackles come back and you can work on slants or whatever other routes you want to work on to your heart's content.

Besides the problem with the slants is that our doods don't catch 'em. They probably run a million in practice, not sure how getting Russell killed to have them to it in a game solves that problem.

 

[Sarlacc83]

1) I agree that the media should ask those questions

2) Last year Pete was rated as one of the highest (maybe even the highest) game decision coaches. Are people really worried he's going to put Russell on an island and get him killed? Since we don't have the benefit of knowing the exact calls, it's quite possible the adjustments didn't work. Sometimes bad things happen.

 

[BlueThunder]

I'm not sure some people are really getting it. You can scheme and adjust all you want, but if you don't have the horses to pull it off, it's futile. Everybody knows our Oline SUCKS, and now every team is just gonna attack us in a full-blown Blitz-O-Rama! We just don't have the personnel on that pathetic line to do anything. Even when we eventually get our tackles back, we'll obviously be much better, but we'll still be paper thin in that crucial area of the team, and one single injury could equal DOOM in the playoffs. What good is getting Percy back if Russell can't get off a pass to him? What good is Marshawn if they stack the box and stuff him immediately? Things just collapse so quickly that there is no time to run the offense in an effective manner. Now, I realize that the Rams have a very, very good defense, as did the Panthers, Texans, Colts, and even the Titans, and we struggled offensively in all those games. Until we get our guys back on the line, expect more of the same from our opposition. The Bucs are probably gonna try their best to copycat, but they actually lack the horses on their D to get it done... hopefully... So, let's at least give our coaches the benefit of the doubt here. Their offensive game-plan surely wouldn't look so bad if they had guys that could actually block. My only bitch is the stubbornness of keeping Wilson in the pocket. Let him do what he does so well... Cut him loose damnit! There is no pocket anymore for him to sit in, so get him the hell out of there so he can at least throw it away if necessary and not get him killed. If he goes down, stick a fork in us, obviously. (Well, TJax would have a much better team around him than last time he started for us, so who knows? But I would really rather not test that little theory out).

 

[Happypuppy]

Tech you are correct. If this was Boston, Philadelphia NY he would have been hammered with hard questions. It's not a lovefest. The coach needs to hold players accountable and he needs to be held accountable as well. P Allen is a hard ass. He expects you to do your job or he will get someone else.

There is no exscuse , zero , nada for DE s and DT s to repeatedly go untouched. If they rush 8 and we have 7 what do you expect? Someone to trip and fall? Put MRob in as a bodyguard if you have to

+1 TW you get it

 

[sc85sis]

Pete said on Brock and Danny this morning that they have to get the ball out quicker.
http://audio.kiroradio.com/seattle/kiro ... 963200.mp3

 

[Tech Worlds]

Tech you are correct. If this was Boston, Philadelphia NY he would have been hammered with hard questions. It's not a lovefest. The coach needs to hold players accountable and he needs to be held accountable as well. P Allen is a hard ass. He expects you to do your job or he will get someone else.

There is no exscuse , zero , nada for DE s and DT s to repeatedly go untouched. If they rush 8 and we have 7 what do you expect? Someone to trip and fall? Put MRob in as a bodyguard if you have to

+1 TW you get it

That's right!

 

[rideaducati]

I think Russell is a little at fault too. He holds the ball longer than Tarvaris and he checks into pass plays when there are 8 in the box knowing that his O-line is bad. They need to RUN THE DAMN BALL and then RUN IT AGAIN and if that doesn't work RUN IT ANYWAY until the defense is expecting run, then RUN SOME MORE!!! Especially against a team that has given up 5 yards per carry for the season.

I don't know how many times I yelled at the TV for the Seahawks to run the ball last night. It seems as if they have gone away from it too much lately.

I also had Tarvaris flashbacks and caught myself yelling THROW THE BALL just like old times with Tarvaris standing in the pocket like a statue.

 

[NorCalSeahawk]

I wouldn't expect to hear Pete say much of anything but what you hear Monday morning after the game on B&D (something vanilla). I would expect them to say the team didn't play well, but found a way to win and they will work on (insert problem here) this week.

On the flip side I would guess Pete saw what all the fans saw (and more) over the last few weeks (and last night) with this patched up O-line and now this shaky WR group (with Rice out and Harvin not back up and running) and he's all over Bevell and Cable to come up with a better game plan than forgetting about Lynch and not adding some extra blockers (like more Robinson, Davis and Miller) and helping these below average tackles. I wouldn't be shocked to see some O-line guys getting shuffled around this week, because this line right now is not playing even average football. It SHOULD be a telling game this Sunday, Tampa saw the Rams game and they will try to do some of the same stuff, so it will be interesting to see if the Hawks work on these issues this week.

 

[dontbelikethat]

I'm not sure some people are really getting it. You can scheme and adjust all you want, but if you don't have the horses to pull it off, it's futile. Everybody knows our Oline SUCKS, and now every team is just gonna attack us in a full-blown Blitz-O-Rama! We just don't have the personnel on that pathetic line to do anything. Until we get our guys back on the line, expect more of the same from our opposition. Their offensive game-plan surely wouldn't look so bad if they had guys that could actually block.

This, but I still don't understand why these guys are going 1v1 after getting beat multiple times and not getting any help.

 

[JSeahawks]

Tech you are correct. If this was Boston, Philadelphia NY he would have been hammered with hard questions. It's not a lovefest. The coach needs to hold players accountable and he needs to be held accountable as well. P Allen is a hard ass. He expects you to do your job or he will get someone else.

There is no exscuse , zero , nada for DE s and DT s to repeatedly go untouched. If they rush 8 and we have 7 what do you expect? Someone to trip and fall? Put MRob in as a bodyguard if you have to

+1 TW you get it

I'm incredibly happy that our media is not like Boston, Philly, or New York. Just take care of things and fix things behind closed doors. I don't need any answers through the media. I'd much rather have a love fest and feel good stories.

 

[Largent80]

Does anyone want to give the Rams credit for playing a great game in the pass rush dept.?

Because they DID.

 

[CANHawk]

Does anyone want to give the Rams credit for playing a great game in the pass rush dept.?

Because they DID.

True dat. Quinn is a beast. They did an awesome job working their plan.

That said though, I would have loved to seen them run marshawn right into Carpenter's right butt cheek and see where that got them. Carp's a roadgrader and gets great push. If they kept hammering away at that, I bet something would have opened up eventually .

But hey, it's a win so I'm not going to lose too much sleep over thinking it. Sure it was ugly, but the ugly girls get just as pregnant as the pretty ones, so they all count the same in the end...