Maulbert":2ipm0nc9 said:Marvin49":2ipm0nc9 said:Jville":2ipm0nc9 said:It must really hurt.
If Jed does indeed need more time to work on down his lengthy learning curve, that could in turn invite more articles from Tim. Perhaps we should call this years chapter The Continuing 2017 Saga of the Misadventures of Jed.
This saga. This long running serial can't possibly last forever. There are already far more than enough mistakes and lessons to learn from. :229031_shrug: Surely the light has to come on ...... eventually.
Not one bit.
I'm actually quite happy with the Lynch/Shanahan hires and the direction Free Agency and the draft have taken. No guarantee of success surely but seems they are on a good track for the first time in a few years.
Niners are a long way from contention. Any reasonable Niner fan would say so. Jed has screwed up in the past but I also don't think Harbaugh was blameless (a coach he hired BTW). Keeping Baalke over Harbaugh? Mistake. Tomsula? Mistake. Kelly? Meh...I think the error there was trying to get by with Baalke another year. Jed kept thinking they were close and just another HC away and was hanging on to the three years they were so good under Harbaugh. They weren't. I don't think Kelly did anything that made him HAVE to go, but Jed made the RIGHT decision to eat all the money and start over from the ground up. Baalke had to go because while he was pretty good at drafting defensive players, he had a huge blind spot on offense.
I mean can you honestly say RIGHT NOW that Lynch/Shanahan are bad hires? If not, then I don't even know what you're talking about.
As a Niner fan I'm in ZERO pain because at least at this juncture they seem to at least be pointed in the right direction which couldn't be said for a few years now. I know you must WANT it to be painful, but it really isn't bro. Past the hurt and on to the fun of building a team again. Thats the best part anyway.
Now whats happening to the Giants? Ouch.
Could be much worse tho...I could be a Raider fan and be trying to figure out of I was going to renew my season tickets when my team was moving to Vegas.
...but I could drown all that out by watching the Warriors play.
I would say hiring Kelly was a mistake. Failed retreads are riskier than unproven commodities, which is why Lynch/Shanahan have room to work. That being said, though I agree they aren't bad hires, you can't quantify them as good hires yet, no matter how rosey they've looked so far. That time will come on the field. Remember, everyone was ready to crucify Pete when he got to Seattle, but even he needed time. I will also say that even giving Lynch/Shanahan the benefit of the doubt doesn't excuse nearly a decade of documented mismanagement and douchebaggery on the part of Jed, who has well and truly earned all the shit he's now getting. While Harbaugh was an ass, I was glad to see him go because it was abundantly clear to me he was the only reason a team of underachievers rose so high. They had talent, but without him, no one in that organization could find their butts with both hands.
I'd say your comments in regards to Kelly hire is fair. I think you are correct that it was a bad hire mainly because they should have blown the whole thing up LAST year. My guess is that if they had then Hue Jackson would have been their coach.
As for Shanahan/Lynch, I think thats fair as well. My point wasn't that they are great hires...more that I like what I've seen so far and saying they are BAD hires is way premature.
Kinda disagree with the "underachievers" part though. That team didn't have talent, it had INSANE talent...especially on defense.
While so many people point to Harbaugh leaving as the point it all started to fall apart, it actually started the last season he was there. Players started getting hurt and before Tomsula even coached a game they had already lost Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Anthony Davis and several others.
Point being Harbaugh had incredible talent. It was BOTH to coaching and the roster that fell apart. Not one or the other. Even when Baalke made a great pick like Chris Borland, the dude up and retired after one NFL season. Sigh.
Point is this. IMO Yorks biggest mistake so far has been with sticking with Baalke too long and not starting over from square one earlier. Tomsula was very well regarded in the building but Kelly was largely a Baalke last ditch hail mary hire that didn't work. On Harbaugh, he should never have been fired but I really think Harbaugh isn't as innocent in that situation as many seem to think....particularly in light of public comments since. I still love the guy as a coach, but I think he himself was a big reason he's gone. It ain't ALL on York.