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I saw this.KitsapGuy":1ert3kwu said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KennethArthuRS/status/648713559015190528[/tweet]
In Bevell we trust, though.
I saw this.KitsapGuy":1ert3kwu said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KennethArthuRS/status/648713559015190528[/tweet]
When you're running back punts and kickoffs for touchdowns and hitting your tight end for a 30-yard score, you don't get as many red zone chances. But I'll take that tradeoffKitsapGuy":2k976z8d said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KennethArthuRS/status/648713559015190528[/tweet]
KitsapGuy":2ampk8td said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KennethArthuRS/status/648713559015190528[/tweet]
kearly":3leuv608 said:Rawls looked mostly ineffective in his first three preseason games playing with Archer. Then in the 4th game Rawls was paired with BJ Daniels and Rawls went off in that game. For all of Daniels flaws at QB, he is a master of running read option.
When the read option is run effectively it really loosens things up in the running game. In the same manner, an effective quick passing game forces linebackers to stay cautious. These two aspects in concert (when combined with hurry up) are the foundation of the Chip Kelly offense.
This is why Seattle's offense looks best in the 2 minute drill. The offense Seattle runs in those situations is similar to a Kelly offense. It's an offense that not only opens up the run, but suits our QB very nicely.
The problem is, this kind of offense doesn't always lend itself to running effectively in obvious run situations. I think this season has shown us just how under-rated the 2011-2014 Seahawk offensive lines were in regards to run blocking. Seattle was #1 in the NFL last season in power run situations, IIRC. This year it feels like we're average at best.
This year, it feels like Seattle always struggles to run the ball early, until Wilson starts getting some mojo going with his arm and feet, and then after Wilson starts rolling the run game starts opening up. Part of that is passing to set up the run. Part of it is Wilson keeping a few read option plays and turning them into nice plays.
And of course, we need teams to respect the run game to make play action viable, and without selling play action our pass protection suffers.
I think the reason why our offense 'feels' underwhelming this year is because every aspect has become co-dependent. We can't pass well if we can't threaten some kind of run and we can't run if we aren't passing and running read option well. The previous Seahawk teams could typically run at will against most opponents. So far this year Seattle has run the ball okay after setting up the run with the pass, but they don't look like a team that can impose their will yet.
Hawks46":3tzhib8a said:I think we've been heavily run slanted for two reasons: to bring Wilson along slowly (which is looking to be a great idea), and because Wilson's ability to run has slanted both our run attempts, but also our yards. Take away his 800 yards rushing and we're a middle of the pack rushing team last year.
kf3339":2eddugax said:So do you think we have the type of players on our O-Line to get to the point of imposing our will in the run game this year? Because right now it looks somewhat suspect to me.
kearly":26s78d48 said:kf3339":26s78d48 said:So do you think we have the type of players on our O-Line to get to the point of imposing our will in the run game this year? Because right now it looks somewhat suspect to me.
Back when Seattle traded for Graham, our OL was projected to be Okung-Bailey-Lewis-Sweezy-Britt. Zach Miller was still on the team to help with blocking at TE.
Since then the Hawks have had changes at three of those OL spots and the team cut Miller without bothering to acquire a blocking TE replacement.
Right now, our run blocking is below average, and it's partly due to poor planning by the front office, and partly due to some last minute changes that couldn't have been foreseen in March. The FO put a lot of this on faith that things would work out.
If things DON'T work out and run blocking continues to be an issue, you'll see some tweaking on the OL later this season. Glowinsky, Lewis, and Bailey could all see action depending on how the current starting group fares. Seattle might sign a blocking TE off the street and cut a deadweight like Cooper Helfet. If things are still a problem going into the offseason, Seattle will probably look at addressing the OL with more urgency than they did the last couple years.
$22 mill has nothing to do with Pete's scheme of things.jdemps":sdq35cvp said:hawksfansinceday1":sdq35cvp said:The trades for first Harvin and then Graham and the drafting of Richardson argue otherwise, or at least argue for a balanced approach rather than run first. I for one really believe that Pete and John have been moving this direction since seeing RW is a franchise QB.MontanaHawk05":sdq35cvp said:Pete will give up his teeth before he gives up being run-first.
Russ getting $22 mil/ year means he has to start shouldering some of the load. I think this is the natural evolution of a team paying the franchise. That being said, we aren't going to 60-40. I'm thinking true 50-50 balance, which is a proven winning formula.
Yep, it's just like being in the ring with a 'Lefty', as you know that it's just a matter of time that he's going to start hitting you with BOTH hands. :thfight7:Sgt. Largent":1ulx074v said:hawksfansinceday1":1ulx074v said:The trades for first Harvin and then Graham and the drafting of Richardson argue otherwise, or at least argue for a balanced approach rather than run first. I for one really believe that Pete and John have been moving this direction since seeing RW is a franchise QB.MontanaHawk05":1ulx074v said:Pete will give up his teeth before he gives up being run-first.
Not necessarily.
Even though Pete's always believed in punishing defense and run game first, he still covets the skill positions. He's said it 100 times, I wanna run the ball because that's what wins in January, but I also want to mix in explosive plays, because those are key to winning 2-3 games a year.
So that's the way he builds his teams, he wants that explosive player like Harvin or Graham to supplement the punishing run game.
olyfan63":1n36z5zd said:I suspect Pete is going to stick with the OL moves a bit longer to give them a realistic chance to pan out. Rightly so, IMO.
Pete is all about teaching and feels he and his staff can coach players up better than anyone. I'm sure Pete is/was prepared for a couple rough games for the OL, relying on the D to win games. Only problem was a Kam-less D, led to a L vs StL and even GB outcome could have been different.
It's been 2.5 games of mostly hard-to-watch games with the "new crew" on OL, with a decent 2nd half vs. Chicago, and a couple nice drives in the 2nd half vs GB. So far we've seen:
1) The running game mostly sucks. IMO, this is 50%+ Lynch not being Lynch, not being healthy, ready, explosive, 25% Lynch not trusting/knowing OL yet, and 25% OL sucking. When I say OL, I'm including TE in a lot of instances, and Graham isn't much of a blocker so far. We saw that things are better with a healthy, quick, hungry Rawls running the ball. He's no Beastmode (when ML is in top form), but is very serviceable.
2) This OL group increasingly gives Russell "real" pockets to pass from. It's an unprecedented sight here... and Russell is so surprised that half the time he doesn't know what to do. It throws his rhythm off. Instead of 1-2-3 elude (onrushing DT), 4-5-6 scramble (from DE whose beaten his man) and 7-8-9 try-to-find, now he's expected to do 1-2-3 read, 4 throw. Not since 2012 has he had receivers who could consistently get some separation, and this group can and does, with Graham, Lockett, and as always, Baldwin. Russell still hasn't quite adjusted to having immediately open receivers. It's still a shock to him every time he sees it. And he hasn't learned yet how to throw jump balls to Graham, much less Matthews.
I expect Pete and Cable to mostly stick with the position changes, and for things to gradually improve, and the Seahawks to have a rockin-and-rolling hot (balanced) offense by the time the playoffs roll around. Recall in SB XLVIII, the pregame national mediot hype was all about how would Seattle stop Denver's passing offense, and they practically ignored the real key matchup, how would Denver's decimated secondary and suspect pass defense stop down Seattle's slightly-better-than-average passing attack. (They couldn't)
I think this year, Seattle will gradually improve across the board on Offense, both run and pass, and present exploitable matchups against nearly any opponent. IMO, we lost SBXLIX not on that fateful play, but on the couple offensive possessions where we had a 10 point lead and the Offense played with ZERO urgency, or just plain SUCKED, 3-and-outs, and gave the ball right back to the NE Offense, didn't allow our D to rest before facing Brady again. We saw that in the GB game this year; Seattle got a lead, then sucked offensively after that. The difference is, this year we have more passing game weapons, but the process of learning to use them effectively takes time.
When Pete says "balance" I think he means an offense that can "score again" in 2nd half with the lead, and take a 1-score game to a 2-score, and a 2-score to a 3-score.
hoxrox":21w19a94 said:I'd like to see more runs out of the I formation with Truckuafu lead blocking.
MontanaHawk05":3eqmxl4c said:Pete will give up his teeth before he gives up being run-first.