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Agreed. I would probably fall down and break my neck while trying to sprint that card to the podium full speed. Absolute no brainer of a BPA pick, and it'd be for a team who will be using 2 TE and dual back personnel packages more than potentially any other team in football.

Warren is roughly comparable to TJ Hockenson in overall caliber as a prospect for me. I see an absolute classic tight end. The old school prototype at the spot. Shades of Jeremy Shockey and Dallas Clark.

I suspect they'll have a top-10 grade on Warren and a first round grade (so top 15-20) on Loveland. I see tight end as a huge possibility in round 1.

It has to be the logical conclusion for the team given the offense is really going to have issues if they can not be in 12 personnel consistently enough. To make up for a questionable OL adding a Warren as high end two way player would be a miracle.
 

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Yup. Harbaugh's first draft pick as a Charger's HC was an OLman, Joe Alt, when there was a few bright shiny toys like Malik Nabers, Rome Odunze, and Brock Bowers there for the taking, and they needed receivers. I would also guess that he had callers for his pick with JJ McCarthy, Nix, and Penix still on the board in one of those years-of-the-QB kinds of drafts.
 

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It has to be the logical conclusion for the team given the offense is really going to have issues if they can not be in 12 personnel consistently enough. To make up for a questionable OL adding a Warren as high end two way player would be a miracle.
Totally. A tight end for us would be a more need-based pick than it would be for nearly any other team given the offense we're looking to run.

I have Warren head and shoulders over Loveland, personally, but Loveland is also a legit prospect. 18 is rich for his talent but 18 is looking like a weird spot in this draft class.

Warren embodies everything you'd need in a tight end and screams potential all-pro. He blocks hard, bowls through contact, and has some of the surest hands we've seen out of a tight end in a while. Absolutely prototypical. I mean, the way they have him under center/wildcat at Penn State and how well he does there speaks to his versatility and do-everything ethos as a prospect. One of those guys where you just want to get the ball in his hands and let him do his thing.

Personally, if he falls to 18, I'd expect us to run the card up and I'd be absolutely overjoyed. I wouldn't even rule out a trade up if they want to get Kubiak a welcome gift. I think he's pretty much a sure fire thing if he stays healthy.
 

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When Bob and Wyman asked JS about the OL he said he wants to do something but Benton and the O guys said they liked the young guys that we have. It looks like we are going to kick the tires on Tevin Jenkins, but according to Kubiak’s guys we’ve got enough talent already.

It’s also been said that Grubb left the OL out on an island with no help all season: no outlets, no roll outs, no chipping, always in shotgun, and often running 5 deep routes. So our OL ineptitude may have been magnified by the scheme.

Given those two bits of information, I am pretty confident our OL will be better. We might only see one new face on the OL next year — and I’m good with that.

It will be interesting to see how Chicago’s OL does in contrast with 3 new (expensive) guys.
 

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When Bob and Wyman asked JS about the OL he said he wants to do something but Benton and the O guys said they liked the young guys that we have. It looks like we are going to kick the tires on Tevin Jenkins, but according to Kubiak’s guys we’ve got enough talent already.

It’s also been said that Grubb left the OL out on an island with no help all season: no outlets, no roll outs, no chipping, always in shotgun, and often running 5 deep routes. So our OL ineptitude may have been magnified by the scheme.

Given those two bits of information, I am pretty confident our OL will be better. We might only see one new face on the OL next year — and I’m good with that.

It will be interesting to see how Chicago’s OL does in contrast with 3 new (expensive) guys.
Our OL will absolutely look improved next year regardless of personnel simply because the scheme will be putting them in positions to succeed. Grubb absolutely left them (and by extension Geno) to die last year. He called the pass heaviest offense in football while putting the weight of the world on a line he couldn't develop, and then never adjusted when the 5 men he tried to make into a collective Atlas kept dropping the world on Geno's head.

I would imagine that Benton is excited to see what we could have in Haynes. Was a touted prospect and the new scheme could really be a great fit for him.

Regardless, though - a free agent guard would really help me feel better about this team, and I'd be looking for both a center and guard within the first 5 picks. I'm partial to the uber-athletic Georgia duo of G Tate Ratledge and C Jared Wilson myself.
 

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It has to be the logical conclusion for the team given the offense is really going to have issues if they can not be in 12 personnel consistently enough. To make up for a questionable OL adding a Warren as high end two way player would be a miracle.
I agree. However, everything I've read has Warren going in the top 10. Would you trade up to get him? Given the depth of the draft and lack of top end talent I would stay at 18 or possibly trade back for more picks.
 

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He's only 26, one of the league's best guards, and very few injuries truncate careers like that anymore. You gotta take a gamble at some point, and what we're currently doing clearly isn't working.
Jenkins has only played in 60% of his possible games I don’t care how good he might be he is useless on the side lines. The Bears fans I know are saying good riddance
 

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Jenkins has only played in 60% of his possible games I don’t care how good he might be he is useless on the side lines. The Bears fans I know are saying good riddance

Then why sign MVS or Kupp?

Also, Jenkins isn't a shoe in to start for the Seahawks but he would compete and make the other younger players earn their rank on the depth chart. Worse case scenario you have quality depth. Best case scenario you have a starter that buy you time to develop the young guards on the roster to compete in 2026 and 2027.
 

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Jenkins has only played in 60% of his possible games I don’t care how good he might be he is useless on the side lines. The Bears fans I know are saying good riddance
The comment you quoted was about Fries. I didn't have any real feelings on Jenkins. Doesn't seem like someone who really moves the needle.
 

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Offered a huge chunk to Fries. Dude wasn't man enough to come do a Physical. While I'm very frustrated with the O Line, he flat out tried to get Fries here.
Technically he wasn't man enough to wait 2 days before he COULD.. because of the CBA.

Chose to just take the promise deal with more guarantee, at 45 Million he probably knew he wasn't going to see half of the 3 year 45-50 million dollar contract

Reports are it was close to the Dremonts deal.. So basically.... same pay less years, less guarantee, We've failed some people on physicals probably didn't want to take the financial chance
 

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There is no doubt that John Schneider heard your concerns, and he got it!!! Actions have been taken, such as firing Grubb and trading away GeNO, which are the problems when it comes to OL performance.

But, just to throw .NET a bone, he will consider using the 3rd round pick #92 (#93?) from the Raiders to draft an IOL, totally unnecessary but just a bone to keep 12s happy and to stop Jody Allen from calling him.
 
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