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    Pete or Holmgren

    I think we're done. You apparently live in a world where the Holmgren era was very different from what it actually was.
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    Pete or Holmgren

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    Pete or Holmgren

    The pro-Holmgren arguments here have to be classified as some combination of trolling and delusion at this point.
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    Are Pete and John on the Hot Seat?

    Yup
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    Pete or Holmgren

    Holmgren had more (full) control for his first 4 years in Seattle and was sub-.500 topping out at 9 wins.
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    Pete or Holmgren

    I couldn't disagree more about Holmy consistently getting the best from his players. Regression? You mean to 12, 10, and 10 wins and a return to the Super Bowl? I'll take that over the immediate drop to 9-7 and then to 4-12 in year 3. Carroll didn't drop below 10 wins for 3 years after winning...
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    Pete or Holmgren

    I'd take Graham over Stevens every time; reliability matters. Overall first-round performance, Holmy was 2 for 6 in 4 years and the latest selection was the trade-down spots of Stevens and the the 2 hits were the easiest decisions that Ruskell probably even makes.
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    Is Wilson worth $33M per year?

    The priority needs to be winning the Super Bowl. Every "rule" about building your team to do so should be flexible as they can lead to mistakes that hurt the goal. Most decisions that are made "because we had to" become mistakes, or lead to mistakes. Circumstances in the NFL are always changing...
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    Pete or Holmgren

    Whatever created the TE need, it existed. He went into the draft needing a starter there, had a preference (Graham), and missed him by trading down. And I won't say it's certain we don't draft Reed, but it's certainly wishful to assume we do and his career is as good on a team built extremely...
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    Pete or Holmgren

    I think you memory is a bit tainted here. Look at what he inherited; a team for whom back-to-back 8-8 seasons was underachieving. Compare it to the dumpster fire that was the transition of Holmgren's descent to the Mora season and the anchor of Curry's contract. And let's not pretend Holmgren...
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    Pete or Holmgren

    I definitely remember that it took quite a while to get Hasselbeck and the offense going and a whole lot of "we're close" from Holmgren through those early struggles. He's right up there for stubbornness about doing it his way and he would have forced any GM's hand about QB acquisition.
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    Pete or Holmgren

    Nowhere but Seattle would someone be so revered for accomplishing so little as Holmgren did. 10 years, one time being close. Came into a much better situation than people think and much better than Pete did, took 5 years to be more than one game better than what got Erickson fired (in fact...
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    Pete or Holmgren

    Holmgren is the the most overrated Seahawk ever by a large margin. Carroll has issues, but anyone who even considers the comparison debatable just baffles me.
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    FG: Ifedi unfixable, Jaron Brown a steal

    There is actually a story on FG titled "Why hang time matters." Wow
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    Seahawks reportedly offered a 2nd round pick for QB Brissett

    Umm... clickbait and "fake news" aren't exactly mutually exclusive. It sounds as much like fake news used as clickbait. And if you consider something to be clickbait, posting links is biting the hook and exacerbates the problem.
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    Seahawks.NET Celebrates 20 Years!

    Wow, time flies. Nothing will ever be like that draft party in Sultan awhile back.
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    POLL: How Long Until The Hawks Get Back To The Super Bowl?

    Why do all of the options besides the first include "at least?"
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    UW football team wins Pac-12 Academic Progress Rate

    Yup. APR is a joke and just a show of pretending to care. Another example of the execution of a good concept showing the motives aren't what they want us to think.
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    Cassius Marsh hated being with Pats

    Yeah. Marsh had chances in Seattle and didn't take advantage. Marsh and Coleman are a couple examples that people ignore in those regular assertions that BB wins every trade. Patriot defenses have overachieved based heavily on how inflexible other teams are, but it's been awhile since they truly...
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    Linebacker Camilo Eifler transferring from UW

    And what exactly was the abuse that got you started here? All-uniform team?

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