Did Vrabel Know?

[JPatera76]

I mean yes we have a great special young defense. But putting that aside..after talking with friends and family one of them mentioned something.

And it’s, Does or did Vrabel kind of already know because of Drake Mayes shoulder being injured that the game was shot so the play calls from McDaniels was more or less to mitigate or focus more on “damage control”.

Drake Maye admitted post game he “couldn’t really feel it and they shot it up pregame” and in Vrabel post game interview even coaches who are holding back for the sake of leadership dont act as detached as Vrabel did. Even the “frosty post game handshake” was off. He’s a former player for the Patriots McDanials has called way better games than this, but I it a bit curious.

Scheme wise it wasn’t like they schemed for Seattles defense or even made adjustments, it was a scheme to try and keep Maye safe and mitigate damage, with a couple deep shots here and there. (If woolen was in the proper spot pre snap, he’d have that batted away properly if not Intercepted)

100% I know this entire thing sounds stupid however.. with Mayes shoulder injury it still leaves one to wonder.

I mean lol as ass whooping is an ass whooping and I’ll take it. But a few friends and family brought this up based on Vrabel.

 

[SeahawkSteve80]

I respectfully disagree. This is the Superbowl, you put it all on the line.

Macdonald simply outsmarted Mcdaniels and our team dominated

 

[JPatera76]

I respectfully disagree. This is the Superbowl, you put it all on the line.

Macdonald simply outsmarted Mcdaniels and our team dominated

Oh i 100% agree. I was just curiously asking whatever everyone else thinks.

This above thought never crossed my mind until a few people I know brought it up, so I figured id pose the question here as well.

 

[cymatica]

If they were trying to protect Maye and do damage control, they would have ran the ball a lot more. Looked like they just gave up on the run game in the 1st half

 

[Grahamhawker]

Seems more like he was just embarrassed.

He knew they couldn't hang with the Hawks D. So the whole game plan was to force turnovers. When that didn't work there was nothing else so it turned into a complete ass-whipping of a game the Pats were basically never in.

I don't know about Maye's shoulder, but he threw it 40+ times.

 

[rjdriver]

The NE defensive looks early showed that Vrabel knew they weren’t going to be effective offensively. They were superlatively over aggressive in jumping routes and blitzing to try to create turnovers. They threw the kitchen sink at trying to rattle Darnold early.

I don’t think you take such risks unless you know you need defensive turnovers to score. It left NE vulnerable to sideline runs and deep one on one goes. If Darnold would have hit a few of those deep balls (JSN and RS), this game could have easily been 40-13 and done at the half.

 

[JPatera76]

The NE defensive looks early showed that Vrabel knew they weren’t going to be effective offensively. They were superlatively over aggressive in jumping routes and blitzing to try to create turnovers. They threw the kitchen sink at trying to rattle Darnold early.

I don’t think you take such risks unless you know you need defensive turnovers to score. It left NE vulnerable to sideline runs and deep one on one goes. If Darnold would have hit a few of those deep balls (JSN and RS), this game could have easily been 40-13 and done at the half.

100% and that could be what people may have meant when I was speaking to them.

 

[rjas77]

I mean yes we have a great special young defense. But putting that aside..after talking with friends and family one of them mentioned something.

And it’s, Does or did Vabrel kind of already know because of Drake Mayes shoulder being injured that the game was shot so the play calls from McDaniels was more or less to mitigate or focus more on “damage control”.

Drake Maye admitted post game he “couldn’t really feel it and they shot it up pregame” and in Vabrels post game interview even coaches who are holding back for the sake of leadership dont act as detached as Vabrel did. Even the “frosty post game handshake” was off. He’s a former player for the Patriots McDanials has called way better games than this, but I it a bit curious.

Scheme wise it wasn’t like they schemed for Seattles defense or even made adjustments, it was a scheme to try and keep Maye safe and mitigate damage, with a couple deep shots here and there. (If woolen was in the proper spot pre snap, he’d have that batted away properly if not Intercepted)

100% I know this entire thing sounds stupid however.. with Mayes shoulder injury it still leaves one to wonder.

I mean lol as ass whooping is an ass whooping and I’ll take it. But a few friends and family brought this up based on Vabrel.

No. Vebrel snd the OC didn’t have the players to slow down the power of our front four or the speed of Witherspoon blitzing

 

[pittpnthrs]

You don't throw it 40 times for damage control with your QB. I'm definitely not saying he wasn't hurt to a point, but he was shook. He wasn't ready.

 

[kidhawk]

I know he’s not our coach but is it really that hard to get Vrabel’s name right?

 

[JPatera76]

I know he’s not our coach but is it really that hard to get Vrabel’s name right?

I will fix that. I always forgot where the R is lol aced because when people say it it sounds like the r at times is after the B not the V . Thank you

 

[kidhawk]

I will fix that. I always forgot where the R is lol aced because when people say it it sounds like the r at times is after the B not the V . Thank you

I think I’m still just a bit put off by the horrible Honors program.

 

[Hockey Guy]

Maye was seeing ghosts.

 

[DTiempo81]

Maye was seeing ghosts.

Game like that can ruin a young QB.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

Nah, he wasn't ready to face the defenses that he did in the playoffs. All his games in the post season were the same. The only difference is the Hawks offense didnt give in to the Patriots defense like the other playoff teams they faced. The hawks defense was also much better than the other teams aswell.

 

[chris98251]

That kid may never get over that, Mac had one goal, make the kid hear footsteps and yes I will use it SEE GHOSTS, blitzing Spoon early, the kid could not pick it up, then our D line pushing and attacking from everywhere, DB's blanket covering most the time. Darnold dispelled his, Maye now has his.

 

[DTiempo81]

That kid may never get over that, Mac had one goal, make the kid hear footsteps and yes I will use it SEE GHOSTS, blitzing Spoon early, the kid could not pick it up, then our D line pushing and attacking from everywhere, DB's blanket covering most the time. Darnold dispelled his, Maye now has his.

Will Campbell as well.

The book is out on both of them.

 

[keasley45]

I mean yes we have a great special young defense. But putting that aside..after talking with friends and family one of them mentioned something.

And it’s, Does or did Vrabel kind of already know because of Drake Mayes shoulder being injured that the game was shot so the play calls from McDaniels was more or less to mitigate or focus more on “damage control”.

Drake Maye admitted post game he “couldn’t really feel it and they shot it up pregame” and in Vrabel post game interview even coaches who are holding back for the sake of leadership dont act as detached as Vrabel did. Even the “frosty post game handshake” was off. He’s a former player for the Patriots McDanials has called way better games than this, but I it a bit curious.

Scheme wise it wasn’t like they schemed for Seattles defense or even made adjustments, it was a scheme to try and keep Maye safe and mitigate damage, with a couple deep shots here and there. (If woolen was in the proper spot pre snap, he’d have that batted away properly if not Intercepted)

100% I know this entire thing sounds stupid however.. with Mayes shoulder injury it still leaves one to wonder.

I mean lol as ass whooping is an ass whooping and I’ll take it. But a few friends and family brought this up based on Vrabel.

Vrabel and McDaniel knew what they were in for after seeing their MVP candidate pee the bed in the playoffs.

Drake Maye might end up being a great QB, but I thought the most telling (and damning) piece of evidence against him came against the Broncos when a mic'd up moment, Drake was overheard telling McDaniel -paraphrasing, 'this is really hard...', to which McDaniel did his best to reframe his focus and remind him what they had to gain if they could focus over the last minutes of the game and prevail.

Sure, Drake was talking about the weather conditions at the time. But I think it was also the difficulty he was having in doing ANYTHING against a stout Denver D.

McDaniel and Vrabel for certain had a sense that timhis game could turn quickly and likely felt that given their QBs lack of experience and the film he put up in prior weeks, that their best chance of winning was not relying on their own QB to do something incredibly impressive, but forcing our QB to do something terrible.

They knew they had little chance with Maye. He isn't their yet. The talk about them taking advantage of a week schedule was 100% correct.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

If the shoulder was still an issue the Pats were dishonest on their final injury report (shocker) as Maye did not have an injury designation
I know I am bias as a Hawk fan but any suggestion that the injury was a significant part of yesterday is sour grapes imo

 

[Bobblehead]

I mean yes we have a great special young defense. But putting that aside..after talking with friends and family one of them mentioned something.

And it’s, Does or did Vrabel kind of already know because of Drake Mayes shoulder being injured that the game was shot so the play calls from McDaniels was more or less to mitigate or focus more on “damage control”.

Drake Maye admitted post game he “couldn’t really feel it and they shot it up pregame” and in Vrabel post game interview even coaches who are holding back for the sake of leadership dont act as detached as Vrabel did. Even the “frosty post game handshake” was off. He’s a former player for the Patriots McDanials has called way better games than this, but I it a bit curious.

Scheme wise it wasn’t like they schemed for Seattles defense or even made adjustments, it was a scheme to try and keep Maye safe and mitigate damage, with a couple deep shots here and there. (If woolen was in the proper spot pre snap, he’d have that batted away properly if not Intercepted)

100% I know this entire thing sounds stupid however.. with Mayes shoulder injury it still leaves one to wonder.

I mean lol as ass whooping is an ass whooping and I’ll take it. But a few friends and family brought this up based on Vrabel.

Wouldn't that violate the NFL injury disclosure ?