Paul Moyer saying Hello

[SoulfishHawk]

Welcome to the site, Paul. Always enjoy hearing your football knowledge. And of course, when you give Wyman crap

 

[AROS]

Did we scare Paul off?

 

[Ruminator]

He's probably just lurking. And getting an occasional chuckle.

 

[GeekHawk]

Probably more like lurking, and shaking his head, and agreeing with Dave Wyman that a lot of fans are morons...

 

[MizzouriHawk]

This is cool. Im new on here but a Hawks fan since 1983. Guessing I have to wait to post

 

[Sperrydogg]

Awesome!!

 

[MORGULON]

This is cool. Im new on here but a Hawks fan since 1983. Guessing I have to wait to post

I hope you don't think that

 

[GeekHawk]

This is cool. Im new on here but a Hawks fan since 1983. Guessing I have to wait to post

Don't have to wait to post, but you may need to get a certain post count to start a new thread.

 

[SNDavidson]

Hi Paul, get Wyman excited for this guy and get the trade done!

 

[Appyhawk]

This is cool. Im new on here but a Hawks fan since 1983. Guessing I have to wait to post

Welcome. You will have to post about 100 posts before you can initiate a thread, and Aros (administrator) is the guy who can clear you for that right.

 

[MizzouriHawk]

Thanks everyone! Sounds good!

 

[kschlund]

I thought I’d join this forum and pop in from time to time. Dave Wyman Bob Stelton and I will be doing a big draft stream tomorrow on Seattle Sports from 5:30 PM to 9 PM.

But I’m a fan just like you all and we share a few comments when I have a chance

Hope y’all have a great draft this week.

Go Hawks!

I thought I’d join this forum and pop in from time to time. Dave Wyman Bob Stelton and I will be doing a big draft stream tomorrow on Seattle Sports from 5:30 PM to 9 PM.

But I’m a fan just like you all and we share a few comments when I have a chance

Hope y’all have a great draft this week.

Go Hawks!

Super hello!!! One question! Can you please help me understand how this is year 50, and not 49?! I am legitimately feeling confused and slightly dumb! I just can't make the math work! Help please!!

 

[Nerter]

Super hello!!! One question! Can you please help me understand how this is year 50, and not 49?! I am legitimately feeling confused and slightly dumb! I just can't make the math work! Help please!!

The Seahawks were actually ESTABLISHED in 1975. They played their first game in '76

 

[Lagartixa]

Super hello!!! One question! Can you please help me understand how this is year 50, and not 49?! I am legitimately feeling confused and slightly dumb! I just can't make the math work! Help please!!

I think your confusion comes from subtracting 1976 from 2025 and getting only 49.
What you're forgetting is that 1976 wasn't "season zero" for the Seahawks. It was "season one." That makes this season the fiftieth. The fiftieth anniversary of, say, the first game of the Seahawks' first season will be next season, during the 51st Seahawks season, exactly 50 years after the first.

It's similar to how we're in the 21st Century, but the year number starts with 20, not 21.

It's also similar to how when a child is born, the child is in the first year of life, not the zeroth. So at one's first birthday, one starts one's second year, and so on. The Seahawks are about to start their fiftieth season. Just as a person's 51st year starts on his 50th birthday, the 50th anniversary of the Seahawks playing in the NFL will coincide with the start of their 51st season.

EDITED to add: I'm guessing you're not old enough to remember the end of the 20th Century and beginning of the 21st, when huge parts of the population were confused about when the 20th ended and when the 21st began. It's exactly the same kind of confusion about year numbering. While it's exciting to see the numbers roll over, that happens a full year before the end of the Century precisely because there was no "year zero." It goes from 1 BCE to 1 CE. If you want to give the first Century CE its full hundred years, then it ended at the end of the year 100 CE, that is, as the year 101 began. Similarly, after the other 19, if you want to give the 20th Century its full hundred years, then it has to end at the end of 2000, that is, as 2001 begins. So the change from 1999 to 2000 looks cooler, but the century (and millennium) change only when the year goes from 2000 to 2001.

 

[Sperrydogg]

I think your confusion comes from subtracting 1976 from 2025 and getting only 49.
What you're forgetting is that 1976 wasn't "season zero" for the Seahawks. It was "season one." That makes this season the fiftieth. The fiftieth anniversary of, say, the first game of the Seahawks' first season will be next season, during the 51st Seahawks season, exactly 50 years after the first.

It's similar to how we're in the 21st Century, but the year number starts with 20, not 21.

It's also similar to how when a child is born, the child is in the first year of life, not the zeroth. So at one's first birthday, one starts one's second year, and so on. The Seahawks are about to start their fiftieth season. Just as a person's 51st year starts on his 50th birthday, the 50th anniversary of the Seahawks playing in the NFL will coincide with the start of their 51st season.

EDITED to add: I'm guessing you're not old enough to remember the end of the 20th Century and beginning of the 21st, when huge parts of the population were confused about when the 20th ended and when the 21st began. It's exactly the same kind of confusion about year numbering. While it's exciting to see the numbers roll over, that happens a full year before the end of the Century precisely because there was no "year zero." It goes from 1 BCE to 1 CE. If you want to give the first Century CE its full hundred years, then it ended at the end of the year 100 CE, that is, as the year 101 began. Similarly, after the other 19, if you want to give the 20th Century its full hundred years, then it has to end at the end of 2000, that is, as 2001 begins. So the change from 1999 to 2000 looks cooler, but the century (and millennium) change only when the year goes from 2000 to 2001.

Zeros have always been a stumbling block for humans

 

[Sperrydogg]

I think your confusion comes from subtracting 1976 from 2025 and getting only 49.
What you're forgetting is that 1976 wasn't "season zero" for the Seahawks. It was "season one." That makes this season the fiftieth. The fiftieth anniversary of, say, the first game of the Seahawks' first season will be next season, during the 51st Seahawks season, exactly 50 years after the first.

It's similar to how we're in the 21st Century, but the year number starts with 20, not 21.

It's also similar to how when a child is born, the child is in the first year of life, not the zeroth. So at one's first birthday, one starts one's second year, and so on. The Seahawks are about to start their fiftieth season. Just as a person's 51st year starts on his 50th birthday, the 50th anniversary of the Seahawks playing in the NFL will coincide with the start of their 51st season.

EDITED to add: I'm guessing you're not old enough to remember the end of the 20th Century and beginning of the 21st, when huge parts of the population were confused about when the 20th ended and when the 21st began. It's exactly the same kind of confusion about year numbering. While it's exciting to see the numbers roll over, that happens a full year before the end of the Century precisely because there was no "year zero." It goes from 1 BCE to 1 CE. If you want to give the first Century CE its full hundred years, then it ended at the end of the year 100 CE, that is, as the year 101 began. Similarly, after the other 19, if you want to give the 20th Century its full hundred years, then it has to end at the end of 2000, that is, as 2001 begins. So the change from 1999 to 2000 looks cooler, but the century (and millennium) change only when the year goes from 2000 to 2001.

Wouldn’t June of 2000 be 6 months into the new millennium though, like my daughter is 8 months, I don’t call her zero still

 

[Lagartixa]

Wouldn’t June of 2000 be 6 months into the new millennium though, like my daughter is 8 months, I don’t call her zero still

No, because if you are going to give the millennium its full 1000 years, and you consider that the First Millennium began in the year 1 CE, then its last year has to have been the year 1000 CE. Similarly, the Second Millennium CE began the next year, at the start of 1001 CE, and its final year was the year 2000 CE. The first year of the Third Millennium was 2001. Six months into the Third Millennium was midnight between June 30 and July 1 of 2001.

 

[Lagartixa]

Zeros have always been a stumbling block for humans

Off-by-one errors in accessing iterables (vectors, lists, sets, tuples - any discrete collection of variables) are very, very common in programming. Some programming languages use 0 as the index of the first element, so the first element of an iterable called `my_iterable` with `N` elements would be `my_iterable[0]` and the last would be `my_iterable[N-1]`, and others use the standard where the first element is `my_iterable[1]` and the last is `my_iterable[N]`.