Schneider commenting on Seahawk deficiencies

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I'll believe it when I see it. It's an obvious blind spot for him. I wonder if they made any changes to their scouting department?
He clearly knows he needs to fix the O line this year or he’s fired. Either way you get what you want
 

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Well, it’s been about seven years since the last consistently good Seahawks offensive line so better late than never I guess.

I listened to the whole interview today and I think the initial reaction to it was overblown. Schneider pretty much admitted they blew it with development, scouting, and bad signings.

I think his quote about "not throwing money at issues" is being misunderstood. I think what John is actually trying to say is we know we are bad at it. We need to do the whole thing a lot better and give the line real infrastructure so you properly build it and it sustains. I think he knows they have to scout better. They have to draft better. They have to sign dudes better. Lastly, they need to develop better. He referenced the Eagles because they do all of the things I've mentioned.

Most fans are going to cling on to that quote but what John is probably telling us is that money doesn't always solve all of these problems. I don't think he is saying they won't spend on the right player.

It's a good start in my opinion for developing the O-line. They hired coaches that are aligned. Hopefully they will build an identity for the line and dudes start to gel. I also think it's hard to come back from this if it doesn't work. This is the first real cohesive offensive philosophy in a while under John Schneider. Proof is still in the pudding though.
 
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I listened to the whole interview today and I think the initial reaction to it was overblown. Schneider pretty much admitted they blew it with development, scouting, and bad signings.

I think his quote about "not throwing money at issues" is being misunderstood. I think what John is actually trying to say is we know we are bad at it. We need to do the whole thing a lot better and give the line real infrastructure so you properly build it and it sustains. I think he knows they have to scout better. They have to draft better. They have to sign dudes better. Lastly, they need to develop better. He referenced the Eagles because they do all of the things I've mentioned.

Most fans are going to cling on to that quote but what John is probably telling us is that money doesn't always solve all of these problems. I don't think he is saying they won't spend on the right player.

It's a good start in my opinion for developing the O-line. They hired coaches that are aligned. Hopefully they will build an identity for the line and dudes start to gel. I also think it's hard to come back from this if it doesn't work. This is the first real cohesive offensive philosophy in a while under John Schneider. Proof is still in the pudding though.
So in a nutshell he basically has done a poor job for many years. Got it.
 
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I listened to the whole interview today and I think the initial reaction to it was overblown. Schneider pretty much admitted they blew it with development, scouting, and bad signings.

I think his quote about "not throwing money at issues" is being misunderstood. I think what John is actually trying to say is we know we are bad at it. We need to do the whole thing a lot better and give the line real infrastructure so you properly build it and it sustains. I think he knows they have to scout better. They have to draft better. They have to sign dudes better. Lastly, they need to develop better. He referenced the Eagles because they do all of the things I've mentioned.

Most fans are going to cling on to that quote but what John is probably telling us is that money doesn't always solve all of these problems. I don't think he is saying they won't spend on the right player.

It's a good start in my opinion for developing the O-line. They hired coaches that are aligned. Hopefully they will build an identity for the line and dudes start to gel. I also think it's hard to come back from this if it doesn't work. This is the first real cohesive offensive philosophy in a while under John Schneider. Proof is still in the pudding though.
In the interest of full disclosure, I do not like Schneider.

I felt like he put it more on development than anything else therefor taking some of the blame off of himself. If we are talking development, its not like we have had a bunch of guys leave and they become All Pros elsewhere.

I also don't think "throwing money" at the problem was in reference to the OL. We have never done that. We have never really done that ever.
 
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In the interest of full disclosure, I do not like Schneider.

I felt like he put it more on development than anything else therefor taking some of the blame off of himself. If we are talking development, its not like we have had a bunch of guys leave and they become All Pros elsewhere.

I also don't think "throwing money" at the problem was in reference to the OL. We have never done that. We have never really done that ever.
The only thing I’ll say is that we can’t say he didn’t put in any effort to build a line such as some of the players he drafted or acquired below. With the said, you really can’t build part of a line because if you have three good lineman and two bad that means 40% of your line is susceptible to ruining your offense. Here are some of his good acquisitions or attempt at good acquisitions

Lucas
Damien Lewis
Cross
Duane Brown
Pocic
Ifedi
Britt
Fluker
Etc…
 

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In the interest of full disclosure, I do not like Schneider.

I felt like he put it more on development than anything else therefor taking some of the blame off of himself. If we are talking development, its not like we have had a bunch of guys leave and they become All Pros elsewhere.

I also don't think "throwing money" at the problem was in reference to the OL. We have never done that. We have never really done that ever.
I think when he said not making the same mistakes, he's talking about everything.
 

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I listened to the whole interview today and I think the initial reaction to it was overblown. Schneider pretty much admitted they blew it with development, scouting, and bad signings.

I think his quote about "not throwing money at issues" is being misunderstood. I think what John is actually trying to say is we know we are bad at it. We need to do the whole thing a lot better and give the line real infrastructure so you properly build it and it sustains. I think he knows they have to scout better. They have to draft better. They have to sign dudes better. Lastly, they need to develop better. He referenced the Eagles because they do all of the things I've mentioned.

Most fans are going to cling on to that quote but what John is probably telling us is that money doesn't always solve all of these problems. I don't think he is saying they won't spend on the right player.

It's a good start in my opinion for developing the O-line. They hired coaches that are aligned. Hopefully they will build an identity for the line and dudes start to gel. I also think it's hard to come back from this if it doesn't work. This is the first real cohesive offensive philosophy in a while under John Schneider. Proof is still in the pudding though.
I 100% agree. I still think he goes after Dalman. Drafts a Lg in round 1 or 2 and Haynes at RG. Problem is, lines take time to gel and be a cohesive unit so it may still be too late
 

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I do like John but if he doesn’t fix this issue now it’s time to move on. It’s been bad for over a decade. That’s crazy
 

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This team has been one of the most competitive teams league wide his entire tenure. He also is very experienced at running a franchise.
Canning him accomplishes nothing and would set us back a lot. We would be starting all over again. JS is good at his job and this year they were able to put together a competent staff on the offensive side of the ball.
He isn't going to be fired nor should he be.
 

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This team has been one of the most competitive teams league wide his entire tenure. He also is very experienced at running a franchise.
Canning him accomplishes nothing and would set us back a lot. We would be starting all over again. JS is good at his job and this year they were able to put together a competent staff on the offensive side of the ball.
He isn't going to be fired nor should he be.
I totally agree. Firing John likely means firing McDonald’s and his whole staff. John has done a good job. He’s poured a ton of resources into the O line they just haven’t worked out. It’s not for lack of trying. He can’t do the bargain hunter approach again. It’s not like 25 other teams aren’t in the same boat we are when it comes to the line.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it. It's an obvious blind spot for him. I wonder if they made any changes to their scouting department?
I haven't noticed much change in the scouting department with the noted exception of HC addressing them with detailed information on what it is he wants in the way of player ability strengths at every position.
 
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I do like John but if he doesn’t fix this issue now it’s time to move on. It’s been bad for over a decade. That’s crazy
Move on to who? Before you ever make such a move you need to have your target selected and secured. JS is one of the best in the league and is recognized as such league wide.
 

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His quote was: "You can’t just throw money at something to fix a perceived need." Why did he say "perceived?" No, John, it's glaring and obvious.
 

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