Who would you keep?

[renofox]

Hypothetical: JS (or maybe a new GM?!) decides to do a radical roster teardown and rebuild at the end of the season. In order of importance, which players do you really want to retain? Me:

Murphy
Mafe
Geno
Cross
Hall
Love
L. Williams
*Spoon
Nwosu
KW
Woolen
*JSN
*Zach
*C. Young

* - only due to rookie contracts. Without these, I have QB, LT, & RB on offense and IDLx2, OLB x3, DBx2. 3 offense and 7 defensive players. That's it for the suitable talent on the roster, imo.

This roster needs A LOT of work. Are you confident JS can elevate the quality of talent?

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

I want to see the rest of the season first.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

Won't lie, I don't get your list at all. If it's a total rebuild, what is old ass Geno doing so high? Spoon is way too low.

Murphy, Mafe, Cross, Spoon, KW, Woolen all essential pieces on rookie deals. Have to start there.

 

[TwistedHusky]

If I could get a new DC, I would keep our entire secondary., I would also keep all our WRs (including Metcalf and Lockett) and TEs.
(I don't have the problem with the OC that most Hawk fans seem to have, since it is clear he keep us in trackmeets or shootouts to have a chance at winning games. Running the ball too much makes no sense under those circumstances, especially with a substandard OL).

I would keep Geno but if we give him a 40M+ type of contract extension we are insane and deserve what we get. I like our RBs too but our DEs and DTs are either middling or brittle.
I'd also keep our punter.

Not sure I care about the rest of the roster.

 

[Shane Falco]

If you're doing a rebuild, then it would make sense to get rid of the contracts.

Geno, L. Williams, Lockett, Metcalf, Dre Jones and Noah Fant. About 90 mil.

But you'd be a worse team until you replace the QB, Williams and the receivers with as good or better players.

 

[renofox]

If you're doing a rebuild, then it would make sense to get rid of the contracts.

Geno, L. Williams, Lockett, Metcalf, Dre Jones and Noah Fant. About 90 mil.

But you'd be a worse team until you replace the QB, Williams and the receivers with as good or better players.

Agreed. I only kept Geno because he is an above average placeholder at a reasonable price, and a decent QB is critical to a successful rebuild. The 'expensive' players I kept - Love, Williams, and Nwosu - all have fair contracts and are among our top performers. All the other high $ players are very much overpaid, imo. Especially the receivers.

 

[renofox]

Won't lie, I don't get your list at all. If it's a total rebuild, what is old ass Geno doing so high? Spoon is way too low.

Murphy, Mafe, Cross, Spoon, KW, Woolen all essential pieces on rookie deals. Have to start there.

A decent QB helps the rebuild. I'm assuming we can keep Geno at $25-30/, which is fair - he is a very good QB. I hated the Spoon pick, mainly because of a subject I don't want talk about and jinx him, but think JA. I also don't think he's having a sophomore slump - I believe he's battling little tweaks and reverting towards his natural mean. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see Spoon as elite level or lasting much beyond his rookie contract.

 

[toffee]

Quarterbacks (QB)
Geno still has a year on his contract, any replacements would cost more, why waste cap on a rebuild year?
6 Sam Howell
7 Geno Smith


Running backs (RB)
K9 has trade value and I am open to it.
26 Zach Charbonnet
25 Kenny McIntosh
9 Kenneth Walker III **

Wide receivers (WR)
Major saving from the WR group, DK has trade value too.
19 Jake Bobo
1 Laviska Shenault
11 Jaxon Smith-Njigba
83 Dareke Young

Tight ends (TE)
Bye Fant, he's a luxury we don't need in a rebuilding year.
88 AJ Barner
86 Pharaoh Brown
38 Brady Russell

Offensive linemen (OL)
May have to invest in Cross, all the rest on on Rookie contract or on the cheap and all replaceable.
75 Anthony Bradford RG
67 Charles Cross LT
78 Stone Forsythe RT
64 Christian Haynes RG
65 Michael Jerrell RT
63 Sataoa Laumea LG
61 Jalen Sundell C
57 Connor Williams C

Defensive linemen (DL)
Open to trading Leo for cap saving.
95 Myles Adams DE
94 Mike Morris DE
91 Byron Murphy II DT
99 Leonard Williams DE**
93 Cameron Young NT

Linebackers (LB)
Both Baker and Dodson on one year deal, may have to invest in resigning Mafe.
17 Jerome Baker ILB
0 Tyrel Dodson ILB
50 Trevis Gipson OLB
58 Derick Hall OLB
48 Tyrice Knight ILB
53 Boye Mafe OLB
42 Drake Thomas ILB

Defensive backs (DB)
8 Coby Bryant FS
23 Artie Burns CB
2 Rayshawn Jenkins SS
20 Julian Love FS
28 Nehemiah Pritchett CB
24 K'Von Wallace SS
33 Dee Williams CB
21 Devon Witherspoon CB
27 Riq Woolen CB

Special teams
4 Michael Dickson P
5 Jason Myers K
41 Chris Stoll LS

 

[nwHawk]

How about we give this team 10 or 12 weeks under a new coaching staff before we start pointing fingers as to who to wax. Guys need time to adjust to new systems. This year is a rebuild whether anyone wants to admit it.

On top of that injuries are a killer. I would start with getting a new strength and conditioning staff. Keeping the previous staff in place was a mistake.

Otherwise, better health, improve the offensive line and linebackers and next year will be fun.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Quarterbacks (QB)
6 Sam Howell
7 Geno Smith

Running backs (RB)
26 Zach Charbonnet
25 Kenny McIntosh
9 Kenneth Walker III

Wide receivers (WR)
19 Jake Bobo
1 Laviska Shenault
11 Jaxon Smith-Njigba
83 Dareke Young

Tight ends (TE)
88 AJ Barner
86 Pharaoh Brown
38 Brady Russell

Offensive linemen (OL)
75 Anthony Bradford RG
67 Charles Cross LT
78 Stone Forsythe RT
64 Christian Haynes RG
65 Michael Jerrell RT
63 Sataoa Laumea LG
61 Jalen Sundell C
57 Connor Williams C

Defensive linemen (DL)
95 Myles Adams DE
94 Mike Morris DE
91 Byron Murphy II DT
99 Leonard Williams DE
93 Cameron Young NT

Linebackers (LB)
17 Jerome Baker ILB
0 Tyrel Dodson ILB
50 Trevis Gipson OLB
58 Derick Hall OLB
48 Tyrice Knight ILB
53 Boye Mafe OLB
42 Drake Thomas ILB

Defensive backs (DB)
8 Coby Bryant FS
23 Artie Burns CB
2 Rayshawn Jenkins SS
20 Julian Love FS
28 Nehemiah Pritchett CB
24 K'Von Wallace SS
33 Dee Williams CB
21 Devon Witherspoon CB
27 Riq Woolen CB

Special teams
4 Michael Dickson P
5 Jason Myers K
41 Chris Stoll LS

So you get rid of DK and Laken Tomlinson and Noah fant…. That’s it? Oh and Lockett that’s almost the same team

 

[MORGULON]

If you're doing a rebuild, then it would make sense to get rid of the contracts.

Geno, L. Williams, Lockett, Metcalf, Dre Jones and Noah Fant. About 90 mil.

But you'd be a worse team until you replace the QB, Williams and the receivers with as good or better players.

Out of your list, id keep Williams.

 

[toffee]

So you get rid of DK and Laken Tomlinson and Noah fant…. That’s it? Oh and Lockett that’s almost the same team

I was going with OP's complete knick down rebuilt. In that scenario, we need to trade stars for picks, and cap to sign other players.

We don't have much tradable stars, on offense, DK being the only one. Fant is an luxury we probably won't need under a complete rebuild. Connor William is in one year contract, so he ain't ours to trade.

On defense, we could try to trade Woolen or Mafa, but why? Our ILBs are in one year deal? Again not for us to trade. We can trade Leo ....