Giants, Daniel Jones Agree to Massive Deal

[ElvisInBlue]

How can anyone not like this Geno contract? You're going to be even happier with it when you see what Jimmy G signs for.

The timing was excellent. Getting him signed before the market reset with all the shuffling was a stroke of luck or genius on the Hawks part.

Its a livable contract for the team and will assumedly allow Geno some high end potential earnings if he performs.

However, they probably overpaid a bit for the early signing. If Geno hit the market who‘s offering him 25 mil per season?

Carr & Jones aren’t good comps. One is an established starter and the other is still a relatively young player with upside. Don‘t think either are great deals for the perspective teams, but I get the reasoning.

 

[Rat]

The Giants have no choice but to re-sign him. They made it to the playoffs and can't draft the QB's that are most promising.

I get wanting continuity after a successful season, but who was going to give Jones anything close to that on the open market? Two years ago, he was deemed unworthy of having his 5th year option picked up. Last year, the consensus was that this would be his last year as a starter, and now after a decent non-Pro Bowl season, they give him $160 million? He's not good enough to take up so much cap and make it more difficult to build around him.

Ideally, they would have reached a deal with Saquon by now and tagged Jones. Hell, let Saquon walk; he's hurt every damn year anyway, and how many teams in the past decade have given a RB a second contract and NOT regretted it? AP and Austin Ekeler are very much exceptions. Saquon grew up a Giants fan and wanted to be there. I bet he would have given them the chance to match any offer.

 

[toffee]

Both are terrible signing

Bronco will fire sale Wilson, perhaps we should go and invite the savior back for a few years? watching them boobs bouncing is worth the effort, ain't it?

 

[Seahawker]

 

[Rat]

Bronco will fire sale Wilson, perhaps we should go and invite the savior back for a few years?

Fire saleing him next offseason when his $245 million extension kicks in? Good luck with that. Unloading Russ will make Houston moving Brock Osweiler look like a breeze.

 

[toffee]

Fire saleing him next offseason when his $245 million extension kicks in? Good luck with that. Unloading Russ will make Houston moving Brock Osweiler look like a breeze.

I was teasing Rcaldo

 

[bileever]

Have teams in the NFL gone crazy? The Giants should have let Jones test the market. I don't know that anyone else would have offered $40 million a year for Daniel Jones. At the very least, they should have just franchise tagged him, but they felt they needed the franchise tag for Saquon Barkley. This seems like a panic signing. Did they think the Jets were going to swoop in and sign Daniel Jones?

 

[Seahawker]

Sometimes it's hard to find the right one.

 

[Rat]

I was teasing Rcaldo

I know. I just cant pass up a chance to rip on Russ.

 

[bigskydoc]

Its a livable contract for the team and will assumedly allow Geno some high end potential earnings if he performs.

However, they probably overpaid a bit for the early signing. If Geno hit the market who‘s offering him 25 mil per season?

Carr & Jones aren’t good comps. One is an established starter and the other is still a relatively young player with upside. Don‘t think either are great deals for the perspective teams, but I get the reasoning.

The market is the market, and the market now starts at 30 mil. He would pull 32 to 35 if he hit free agency.

If you want comps, the closest are probably Cousins at 35 mil, and Goff at 33 mil. I don't think 29.5 Tannehill is a good comp, nor is 30 mil Matt Ryan. Neither were coming off of the kind of season Smith had last year, when they signed those contracts.

 

[ElvisInBlue]

The market is the market, and the market now starts at 30 mil. He would pull 32 to 35 if he hit free agency.

Evidently not for Geno. Why would he and his agent agree on a deal 5-10 mil below market value?

If you want comps, the closest are probably Cousins at 35 mil, and Goff at 33 mil. I don't think 29.5 Tannehill is a good comp, nor is 30 mil Matt Ryan. Neither were coming off of the kind of season Smith had last year, when they signed those contracts.

Both established starters with one coming off a Super Bowl appearance. Don’t see the comp there.

 

[bigskydoc]

Evidently not for Geno. Why would he and his agent agree on a deal 5-10 mil below market value?

Both established starters with one coming off a Super Bowl appearance. Don’t see the comp there.

Geno didn't hit the open market. If he did, he would have pulled more. If he wanted max contract value, he would have at least waited until the legal tampering period opened, when other teams could make an offer, and preferably until other contracts were signed, to set the market.

Cousins is the closest obvious comp. Like Geno, he's the guy who can make a run when all the pieces are in place, but isn't going to carry the team. The others are comps because they live in the market that free agents are shooting for, between Tannehill's three-year-old 29.5 floor, and the Prescott/ Stafford 40 mill ceiling.

This off season is figuring out where the current batch of QBs fit into that big hole between 29.5 and 40. I would have argued that Carr set the ceiling at 37.5, but then Jones signs for 40, suggesting free agency is going to push guys into the higher end of that 29.5 to 40 bracket.

 

[bigskydoc]

On the one hand, the floor of Geno's contract is less than he would have picked up on the market. On the other, the ceiling is about the best he could hope for. I still believe he would have picked up something closer to 32 million guaranteed, if he sold to the highest bidder. That might not have come with as high a ceiling, though.