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NFL is a joke. Getting exposed as WWE. Sad.

Never seen "forward progress" called that quickly before. How many times has our guy got stood up and stripped with no forward progres? No forward progress on the Walker loss of 13 yards.

Joke product. Also note the laughable overturn on the DK catch. 0 consistency pathetic refs
 

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NFL is a joke. Getting exposed as WWE. Sad.

Never seen "forward progress" called that quickly before. How many times has our guy got stood up and stripped with no forward progres? No forward progress on the Walker loss of 13 yards.

Joke product. Also note the laughable overturn on the DK catch. 0 consistency pathetic refs
Duh. Why do you think they're able to wear that ridiculous crap on the back of their helmets? Product placement. Saw this loss after last loss. Too easy to predict.
 

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They overturned an interception for the Raiders for the exact same reason. That is absolutely consistent but you'll never even see much less admit something like that from your fantasy world.
 
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They overturned an interception for the Raiders for the exact same reason. That is absolutely consistent but you'll never even see much less admit something like that from your fantasy world.
how about the forward progress fumble? not forward progress when Walker gets stopped, thrown backwards for -13 yards. However it is forward progress the instant the back is wrapped up? Even the announcer said it was a scam
 

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They overturned an interception for the Raiders for the exact same reason. That is absolutely consistent but you'll never even see much less admit something like that from your fantasy world.

what happened to the call staying as it was on the field if you dont have clear evidence?

a 10 minute replay is not clear evidence

Also, the ball moved slightly, but he had it secured tight by the time he popped up, unlike the Raider INT

Not the same
 

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what happened to the call staying as it was on the field if you dont have clear evidence?

a 10 minute replay is not clear evidence

Also, the ball moved slightly, but he had it secured tight by the time he popped up, unlike the Raider INT

Not the same
He was on his back out of bounds when he re-secured it. Nothing you said reflects reality. No idea what the deal was but it doesn't mean anything about whether it was clear or not. I dislike all the rules about what is or isn't a catch, but they applied it consistently to both teams. It wasn't a catch.
 

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He was on his back out of bounds when he re-secured it. Nothing you said reflects reality. No idea what the deal was but it doesn't mean anything about whether it was clear or not. I dislike all the rules about what is or isn't a catch, but they applied it consistently to both teams. It wasn't a catch.

Clear evidence has always been the standard for overturning

If it takes 10 minutes, it's not that clear, end of story

Being consistent is all we ask.

If it takes that long to see/decide/decipher, you stay with the call on the field. That's how its ALWAYS been
 

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You don't know what the delay was for, period. There were two elements to look at. First, whether the ball hit the ground and then did he maintain it through the ground contact. It's also not how it's ALWAYS been. You're just in a persecution complex psychosis hole.
 

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You don't know what the delay was for, period. There were two elements to look at. First, whether the ball hit the ground and then did he maintain it through the ground contact. It's also not how it's ALWAYS been. You're just in a persecution complex psychosis hole.

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That's how its always been
If its not clear and immediate, the call on the field stays.

What's your take on the phantom forward progress?
 

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I get the financial need from .Net, ESPN, advertisers and such for the NFL to be perceived as real and not a play (theater).

But for the fans not to see thst its rigged/fixed...thats criminal. I am now convinced there are bots or paid writers putting up "Its not fixed" posts.

I am noticing a new trend of fans admitting the refs are "Steering" the game. At least those fans are taking the right steps into figuring out the NFL. All I say is keep walking, it gets much more interesting.
 

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LOL, immediate isn't part of it. They gave up on the 90 seconds a LONG time ago. Plus, as I said, they had two elements to look at.

It was quicker than it should've been, definitely, but dude was being stretched backwards over the top of the tackler's body. It wasn't like he was in a scrum or pile still chugging away. He was stopped and appeared at full speed to probably be down also. It was a borderline bad call but not an egregiously incorrect one.
 

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I get the financial need from .Net, ESPN, advertisers and such for the NFL to be perceived as real and not a play (theater).

But for the fans not to see thst its rigged/fixed...thats criminal. I am now convinced there are bots or paid writers putting up "Its not fixed" posts.

I am noticing a new trend of fans admitting the refs are "Steering" the game. At least those fans are taking the right steps into figuring out the NFL. All I say is keep walking, it gets much more interesting.
If you think this way why don’t you just stop watching and posting on this forum?
I get it you’re the enlightened one… you know the truth, all of life is rigged against you…
 

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LOL, immediate isn't part of it. They gave up on the 90 seconds a LONG time ago. Plus, as I said, they had two elements to look at.

It was quicker than it should've been, definitely, but dude was being stretched backwards over the top of the tackler's body. It wasn't like he was in a scrum or pile still chugging away. He was stopped and appeared at full speed to probably be down also. It was a borderline bad call but not an egregiously incorrect one.

The depths at which you stretch to defend the refs here is interesting. Noted

Side note: you do realize its possible to put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the players AND be upset the the officiating was costly, right?

Both can be simultaneously true ;)
 
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He was on his back out of bounds when he re-secured it. Nothing you said reflects reality. No idea what the deal was but it doesn't mean anything about whether it was clear or not. I dislike all the rules about what is or isn't a catch, but they applied it consistently to both teams. It wasn't a catch.
how about the forward progress fumble? not forward progress when Walker gets stopped, thrown backwards for -13 yards. However it is forward progress the instant the back is wrapped up? Even the announcer said it was a scam

Asked this before but you dodged it.
 

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NFL is a joke. Getting exposed as WWE. Sad.

Never seen "forward progress" called that quickly before. How many times has our guy got stood up and stripped with no forward progres? No forward progress on the Walker loss of 13 yards.

Joke product. Also note the laughable overturn on the DK catch. 0 consistency pathetic refs
Refs again? Come on man
 

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NFL is a joke. Getting exposed as WWE. Sad.

Never seen "forward progress" called that quickly before. How many times has our guy got stood up and stripped with no forward progres? No forward progress on the Walker loss of 13 yards.

Joke product. Also note the laughable overturn on the DK catch. 0 consistency pathetic refs
Can we please stop complaining about the refs? FFS, it's sad that some of you all are grasping onto that. Nevermind the fact that our D-Line parted like the red sea for Jacobs or the fact that our pass rush decided to take the day off. Or how about Carr ripping our secondary a new one?

Good god, can we shut up about the refs? They're not the reason we lost and even on that DK play we ended up in that situation because Geno under threw the ball. The refs made the right decision on it as well. He lost control and used his hip to push it back into his hands when he was down.
 

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We get it… you think the NFL is rigged and totally against the Hawks. And the violin plays on…
 

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I get the financial need from .Net, ESPN, advertisers and such for the NFL to be perceived as real and not a play (theater).

But for the fans not to see thst its rigged/fixed...thats criminal. I am now convinced there are bots or paid writers putting up "Its not fixed" posts.

I am noticing a new trend of fans admitting the refs are "Steering" the game. At least those fans are taking the right steps into figuring out the NFL. All I say is keep walking, it gets much more interesting.
how about the forward progress fumble? not forward progress when Walker gets stopped, thrown backwards for -13 yards. However it is forward progress the instant the back is wrapped up? Even the announcer said it was a scam

Asked this before but you dodged it.
I didn't dodge it. I didn't see it when replying to HawkPower. But in case you missed my reply to him about it: "It was quicker than it should've been, definitely, but dude was being stretched backwards over the top of the tackler's body. It wasn't like he was in a scrum or pile still chugging away. He was stopped and appeared at full speed to probably be down also. It was a borderline bad call but not an egregiously incorrect one."

Also, the announcer absolutely did not call it a scam. Just more proof of how detached from reality you are because of your need for persecution. They all said they thought it was early. No one said anything about tit being a scam or deliberate or anything else you wish they did.
 

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Refs again? Come on man
New here? Seahawks would be 179-0 the last ten years if whatever combo of Big NFL, Vegas, Legacy Team Coalition and whatever other shadowy groups didn't have the refs in their pocket. They then aim that large conspiracy directly at Seattle EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. because they don't want Seattle to win for reasons which I've never really been clear on but that TOTALLY exist and are REAL!
 

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