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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
 Post Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:29 pm 
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I hope Lane can step up. Maxwell is terrible.

How do you know that, and is he as bad as Tru?


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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:38 pm 
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Maxwell and Lane will have to step up.I assume Snead dresses as the 4th corner,still very confident this week and moving forward.


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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:43 pm 
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MontanaHawk05 wrote:
I hope Lane can step up. Maxwell is terrible.

Aside from last week I don't think he's ever gotten playing time; So what makes you think he's going to be terrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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At least nobody has a lot of film on Lane and Maxwell...Expect them to get tested early and hopefully we can get some pressure on Fitz.


Excellent point. We know them, they don't know us. Our back ups have the luxury of playing / studying under the best secondary in the league. That elite secondary was hand picked by Pete and Pete picked the back ups as well. I think with a decent rush, we wil be fine and may even find another diamond in the process.


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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does the dude know the term stretch out before practice...


Actually, stretching doesn't help you prevent injuries. It's a myth, basically.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/0 ... -injuries/
http://www.runnersworld.com/stretching/ ... t-injuries


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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hawker84 wrote:
does the dude know the term stretch out before practice...


Actually, stretching doesn't help you prevent injuries. It's a myth, basically.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/0 ... -injuries/
http://www.runnersworld.com/stretching/ ... t-injuries


Stretching before straight up running doesn't - if you're a regular runner that is, it's still beneficial for someone who hasn't been at full-fitness, and in a sport like football where there's a lot of changing direction (which forces muscles into various positions), it's definitely helpful.

But that does prove something I always thought true - when I was running every day I never ever stretched and never felt I had to. That said, I stopped about 4 months ago and now my muscles all feel inflexible and any time i do any light exercise they tighten up quickly unless I stretch first


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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in a sport like football where there's a lot of changing direction (which forces muscles into various positions), it's definitely helpful.

Provide some good evidence for this.

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But that does prove something I always thought true - when I was running every day I never ever stretched and never felt I had to. That said, I stopped about 4 months ago and now my muscles all feel inflexible and any time i do any light exercise they tighten up quickly unless I stretch first

Nobody is arguing that it doesn't loosen your muscles, the argument is whether tight/unloosened muscles contribute more to injury, and they don't; even if it feels logical.


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond not playing vs Bills
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We are missing 3 of our top 4 CBs, id say thats pretty notable


3? You mean 2.

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Hawk-A-Loogie wrote:
Atleast Kelly Jennings was durable....


That's because he never tackled anyone and just followed them to the endzone.


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MontanaHawk05 wrote:
I hope Lane can step up. Maxwell is terrible.


Says the guy that thinks Tarvaris is good...


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Hawk-A-Loogie wrote:
Atleast Kelly Jennings was durable....


That's because he never tackled anyone and just followed them to the endzone.


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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TJ Graham always caught the deep ball at NC State. Seemed like he had one every game........scares me with the CB backups in there. I know he hasn't done much in the pros and Glennon does have a great arm even though he sometimes forgets who is on his team so maybe Fitz can't find Graham....


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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Wow......this sucks. Time for Jeremy Lane to step it up.

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Aw shit, WTIII is so good when he plays..............



They should pay him for one game.


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond not playing vs Bills
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Sucks! Next man up, PC and company will coach these guys up and hopefully they'll tear it up.

Agreed....disappointed, but that's the way it is. Believe in your team and it's players or don't. I choose to believe. Go Hawks!

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We are missing 3 of our top 4 CBs, id say thats pretty notable


3? You mean 2.


Im including Browner, Thurmond, and Trufant

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MontanaHawk05 wrote:
I hope Lane can step up. Maxwell is terrible.


Care to elaborate on the Maxwell comment?


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I read a few studies that showed that stretching actually increased injury rates significantly (well beyond the margin of error in all studies done).

I was a coach and PE teacher for a while and eliminated the 20 minutes of stretching we were told to do, and just did what the studies suggested and did slower versions of the main movements to "warm up" instead. Repetitions of the primary actions basically (just as you see NFL players do during warm-ups out on the field and baseball players do in BP before the game).

I found a significant drop in injury and a significant improvement in performance. I tried it for 5 years myself after being an ardent stretcher and constantly injured athlete, and in that five year span didn't tear, stretch, or strain anything. The one thing that happened was a broken ankle from a direct karate kick by an opponent. Stretching wouldn't have changed that. But I also saw my own performance improve. I went from a fair to middling baseball/softball player, to one who moved up two ranks nationally to B level, which is where college baseball/minor league baseball level players are classified. So past my prime years without stretching I went from D to nationally ranked B. Just one small scale experiment, but it worked for me, and it worked for the teams I coached at all different age levels, and also for the classes I taught where we were having constant hamstring and calf and knee issues along with abdominal and back strains after the district's prescribed 20 minutes of stretching. It was pretty amazing.

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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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Yeah lets trade Browner and let Thurmond take over his spot!!! :sarcasm_on:


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 Post subject: Re: Thurmond out; Sidney Rice playing vs Bills
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Yeah lets trade Browner and let Thurmond take over his spot!!! :sarcasm_on:



I dont know why, but I laughed out loud (a little).


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