The Skins/Hawks Match Up

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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:49 pm
  • Welcome, regardless of the site you hail from. I wandered over to ES this week and I found myself hating the Redskins. After some Redskins fans made their way here, it's changed my opinion somewhat.

    I've stated it before, but I feel like the Seahawks should win this without having to squeak it out. A 10-12 point win is what I expect. However, if it's close we are still equipped to win that kind of game to. Sometimes you feel like you get a feel for whether a team is special or not. I feel this Seahawks team is a special team. They are special in the way the prepare. That is why I am confident. However, I am not arrogant. If I felt like we were going to struggle I would say so and over the years I have said it a lot.

    That said, I have gained more respect for your team over the week, and if you guys beat us than you deserve it and good luck the rest of the way. Hopefully you respectable fans will come on here, in that case, and maybe chide us a little without being too over the top. What I don't want is for those who won't come here during the week to come talk trash after. You definitely won't find me going on your sites and talking smack if we win.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:51 pm
  • I'm not a big trash talker. No worries on that front.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:56 pm
  • ExtremeSkins is garbage, and they can all eat a bag of dicks.

    That being said, good post OP. How many Seahawks games have you watched? You actually seem to have pretty good insight on the way this team operates. 3rd downs have been a bugaboo for us this year, the fanbase collectively can't understand why Trufant is out there on 3rd downs. We've been burned in the slot all year long.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:04 pm
  • thebanjodude wrote:
    That being said, good post OP. How many Seahawks games have you watched? You actually seem to have pretty good insight on the way this team operates. 3rd downs have been a bugaboo for us this year, the fanbase collectively can't understand why Trufant is out there on 3rd downs. We've been burned in the slot all year long.


    All the national ones plus good chunks of the ones opposite the Skins games. I haven't watched many of them in full, but I've watched enough of them to get a good feel for the team. I'm a Redskin fan, but I also coach the game at the varsity level in HS. So I have appreciation for good football. And the Seahawks play it.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:05 pm
  • I'm a skins fan and I HATE extremeskins.

    I've been "placed in timeout" multiple times by mods for simply disagreeing with their points.

    They have a couple cool mods, but most of them are power hungry nerds who think that they are team insiders.

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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:06 pm
  • TaterHawk wrote:Best matchup this year. Washington’s D is not very good simple as that. Seattle is a more balanced team overall (possibly the best in the league as far as all around balance) but young teams have issues on the road. Everything I’ve seen and what I know about both teams this one is a split 50/50. 10 games against each other (at Washington) would have these teams both .500. I see some edge Seattle and some edge to Washington. Both teams want to take away the run and force these QB’s to throw. Wilson is less likely to take risk when receivers are covered. RW3 will fire and pray, not a good idea with this group of DB’s. Seattle tends to get conservative (game management) on the road, where Washington will be more likely to take risk for some possible big plays. Seattle is exposed to the short passing game over the middle with the type of offense Washington runs (I smell some holding calls on Trufant, and our LB’s getting sucked up out of position). The QB most likely to press and make a rookie mistakes in this game…RW3. Wilson is the smartest QB as a rookie that I’ve ever seen. RW3 will press at times when he should go down or throw it away.


    Looking down the road this is the game a fear most in all possible playoff matchups for Seattle


    curious... if our offense and the redskins offense is equal, but our defense is better, how is it 50/50.. don't see that..
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:10 pm
  • Why do we care what the skins fans say on their site? Some people are looking for validation, don't hand it out. That was funny though..a bag of what :)
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:14 pm
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    My consideration is for the hawks on the road..I'm still not 100% convinced they are over the hump on the road
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:16 pm
  • TaterHawk wrote:Best matchup this year. Washington’s D is not very good simple as that. Seattle is a more balanced team overall (possibly the best in the league as far as all around balance) but young teams have issues on the road. Everything I’ve seen and what I know about both teams this one is a split 50/50. 10 games against each other (at Washington) would have these teams both .500. I see some edge Seattle and some edge to Washington. Both teams want to take away the run and force these QB’s to throw. Wilson is less likely to take risk when receivers are covered. RW3 will fire and pray, not a good idea with this group of DB’s. Seattle tends to get conservative (game management) on the road, where Washington will be more likely to take risk for some possible big plays. Seattle is exposed to the short passing game over the middle with the type of offense Washington runs (I smell some holding calls on Trufant, and our LB’s getting sucked up out of position). The QB most likely to press and make a rookie mistakes in this game…RW3. Wilson is the smartest QB as a rookie that I’ve ever seen. RW3 will press at times when he should go down or throw it away.

    Looking down the road this is the game a fear most in all possible playoff matchups for Seattle

    When you say RW3 are you referring to RG3 or Wilson?

    If you're referring to RG3, you're analysis of him is very wrong, he has protected the ball better than any QB in the NFL.

    This will be a fun game. Redskins have a top 5 offense, Seahawks have a top 5 defense.

    Redskins have one of the worst defenses in the entire league, Seahawks have an offense ranked in the bottom half of the league.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:23 pm
  • drastik

    Sorry " RG3" I saw your boy try to force the ball into receivers many times in the Dallas game. Please have him continue to do that :)
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:25 pm
  • TaterHawk wrote:drastik

    Sorry " RG3" I saw your boy try to force the ball into receivers many times in the Dallas game. Please have him continue to do that :)

    The Dallas game was RG3's worst game of his career, by far. I saw him miss some open guys and throw balls in the dirt, but I never saw balls that were "dangerous throws" in the fact that they were nearly (or could have been) interceptions.

    RG3 has played 15 games and has 5 interceptions.. we can even throw in his 2 lost fumbles for a grand total of 7 turnovers in 15 games. To compare, Kirk Cousins has thrown 4 interceptions in 1 and 1/4th games this season.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:28 pm
  • Good points
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:37 pm
  • I would disagree that Seattles offense is in the bottom half of the league. If you go by total yards, then yes, we're 17th. Middle of the pack. But total yards is not a good metric to judge an offense. There are too many other factors to consider. The special team play consistently gives us good field position, meaning we have less yards to traverse. The defense consistently gives us good field position, meaning the same.

    Instead, I trust in DVOA from Football Outisders. It's a very intelligent metric IMO. Consider this: Does a 17th ranked offense rack up 150 points in three games, two vs top 10 defenses? No. But it came as only a mild surprise to DVOA followers, because the Hawks already were ranked as one of the top offenses in the league.

    DVOA rankings for 2012 season:
    Seattle offense 4th defense 4th special teams 3rd total team ranking 1st
    Washington offense 6th defense 17th special teams 27th total team ranking 9th.

    According to their metrics, Washingtons defense is not bottom of the barrel, but their special teams most definitely are. Seattle is a very good team on all sides of the ball. In the end, these are two top 10 teams and it's in Washingtons house. Seattle simply does not play as well on the road as at home, so I expect a very close game that could go either way.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:02 pm
  • TaterHawk wrote:Hawker 84

    My consideration is for the hawks on the road..I'm still not 100% convinced they are over the hump on the road


    gottcha, i can understand that.. i hope we can finally get this road monkey of our back this year... tired of hearing about it .
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:07 pm
  • i will just say this to all skins fans visiting our board... i've said this to all our apponents, some listend some didn't but found out the hard way..

    you can look at our road record you can look at RW's numbers, but what you need to understand is most of the losses came at the beginning of the season, when we were working in a rookie QB who was basically handcuffed for the first half of the season.. if you want a more accurate picture of our road abilities and RW's passing numbers look at the second half numbers.. because that's the level he and this team is operating now... am i saying we're going to win, no, the season numbers do not accurately depict this team... again some know what i'm talking about, some will find out sunday.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:14 pm
  • hawker84 wrote:
    you can look at our road record you can look at RW's numbers, but what you need to understand is most of the losses came at the beginning of the season, when we were working in a rookie QB who was basically handcuffed for the first half of the season..


    Absolutely. I completely understand that. Although, I don't believe it had as much to do with having a rookie quarterback as it did keeping the reigns on him until your coaching staff was more comfortable with him. Your team now is completely different. Look at both 49er games for proof. The second game your team had a totally different offensive identity. You guys are a dangerous, dangerous football team.

    But also keep in mind that the same thing can be said for the 'Skins. We started 3-6 and we've reeled off seven straight wins to finish 10-6 and win the NFC East for the first time since 1999, and get into the playoffs for the first time since 2007 (which you guys knocked us out of... and in 2005...). And, that's with an injured RG3 the last two games and Kirk Cousins at the helm the game prior. We have a budding football team, but we're not perfect yet. I see weaknesses. Like I stated in the OP, our safeties are decent in run support and lackluster in coverage. That's a major issue. Our corners are either very good or very, very poor. That could be a major issue. Our front seven has been MUCH better these last seven games. OLBs Rob Jackson and Ryan Kerrigan have done a better job setting the job and generating a pass rush (although, our pass rush is still somewhat mediocre). Jackson can be had at times in the run game, and I'd imagine the Hawks will run some read option his way a few times. He was out of position on DeMarco Murray in a base offense, I can totally see him getting fooled by Wilson/Lynch. But he can also make some phenomenal plays in coverage, like slipping off his rush and picking off Romo to seal the game last Sunday night. London Fletcher is the defensive player of the month in the NFC and Perry Riley is a pretty solid tackler and a very good up and coming ILB. Barry Cofield at nose, Jarvis Jenkins and Stephen Bowen at end have played much better as of late, too.

    And that's not even mentioning our offense with Garcon in the game or our 1600 yard rusher.

    The Seattle Seahawks are hot. So hot, that I'd say they along with the Broncos may be the two best teams in football. Seattle as a whole, offense, defense and special teams is the most explosive team in football. I have no doubts on that. But the 'Skins offense is extremely explosive and the defense has flashes of absolute brilliance. Our coverage units on special teams are solid.

    This is going to be a fun game to watch if you're a fan of football. And most of you guys seem to know the game very, very well.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:56 pm
  • Good post, OP. I personally don't have the experience with ExtremeSkins that some here do, so I'll just thank you for the informed discussion.

    I am not too impressed by the opposition on which you've won seven straight. Romo, Eli, Flacco, Weeden, Eagles, meh. There is only one other QB who's got as much talent for evading pass rush, protecting the ball, and delivering bananas play-action fireworks like Russell Wilson does (and that other QB is playing for YOUR team). There's every sign that this could turn into a shootout.

    And that's why I believe our defense will be the difference. It's not just the #1 scoring defense and #4 in DVOA, it's had some of its most spectacular plays against Carolina and San Francisco, offenses more similar to yours than dissimilar. You talk about our safeties, but our linebackers are playing great football right now. Bobby Wagner is the Earl Thomas of our LB's, speedy and reading the zone well, and doesn't miss a lot of tackles. KJ Wright has been blowing up screens left and right lately after a midseason dropoff; Frank Gore is probably still shaking the grass out of his ears. Our corners are known for doubling as great run defenders. And Chris Clemons, well, no defensive end in the league has gotten as many sacks as he has with less help from the rest of the D-line, and he's developed into a much better run-stopper every year. I hope Griffin plays smart and protects himself. He won't want to be taking as many hits from our D as Cam Newton did.

    If your Skins have a lead in the fourth, watch for Wilson to come alive. Since college, the trends have screamed that he gets hottest in crunch time, and his rookie year is no exception. Best of luck Sunday.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:00 pm
  • KDawg_ES wrote:Greetings,

    I am from Extremeskins.com.


    Isn't that the site where the same eight "extreme" Redskins fans web stroke each other all day to banjo music and refuse to allow any remotely intelligent football conversation? Sorry dude, it's hard to take you seriously if you claim that garbage as where you're from.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:04 pm
  • SoCalSeahawk wrote:
    KDawg_ES wrote:Greetings,

    I am from Extremeskins.com.


    Isn't that the site where the same eight "extreme" Redskins fans web stroke each other all day to banjo music and refuse to allow any remotely intelligent football conversation? Sorry dude, it's hard to take you seriously if you claim that garbage as where you're from.


    No, that's not the site. Or what happens on that site.

    But you're entitled to your opinion, especially because I'm on your turf. But I am sorry that a few of our posters have ruined the forum for you. We have some outstanding people there. Apparently, the bad ones stuck out to you and that's unfortunate. I apologize on their behalf. But I am not them.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:06 pm
  • Damn KDawg, I really want to dislike you but you're just entirely too affable.

    I hereby bestow upon you the title of "Worlds Most Reasonable Redskins Fan". Enjoy.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:13 pm
  • drastik wrote:
    TaterHawk wrote:Best matchup this year. Washington’s D is not very good simple as that. Seattle is a more balanced team overall (possibly the best in the league as far as all around balance) but young teams have issues on the road. Everything I’ve seen and what I know about both teams this one is a split 50/50. 10 games against each other (at Washington) would have these teams both .500. I see some edge Seattle and some edge to Washington. Both teams want to take away the run and force these QB’s to throw. Wilson is less likely to take risk when receivers are covered. RW3 will fire and pray, not a good idea with this group of DB’s. Seattle tends to get conservative (game management) on the road, where Washington will be more likely to take risk for some possible big plays. Seattle is exposed to the short passing game over the middle with the type of offense Washington runs (I smell some holding calls on Trufant, and our LB’s getting sucked up out of position). The QB most likely to press and make a rookie mistakes in this game…RW3. Wilson is the smartest QB as a rookie that I’ve ever seen. RW3 will press at times when he should go down or throw it away.

    Looking down the road this is the game a fear most in all possible playoff matchups for Seattle

    When you say RW3 are you referring to RG3 or Wilson?

    If you're referring to RG3, you're analysis of him is very wrong, he has protected the ball better than any QB in the NFL.

    This will be a fun game. Redskins have a top 5 offense, Seahawks have a top 5 defense.

    Redskins have one of the worst defenses in the entire league, Seahawks have an offense ranked in the bottom half of the league.


    Don't let that stat about Seattle's offense fool you. Since PC and Bevell have taken the handcuffs off of Russell Wilson, it has been very dynamic, maybe more so than even the Redskins'.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:15 pm
  • SoCalSeahawk wrote:
    KDawg_ES wrote:Greetings,

    I am from Extremeskins.com.


    Isn't that the site where the same eight "extreme" Redskins fans web stroke each other all day to banjo music and refuse to allow any remotely intelligent football conversation? Sorry dude, it's hard to take you seriously if you claim that garbage as where you're from.

    Dude every site has it's share of bad apples. Even this one. It's a shame that you judge an entire group of team fans by a select few.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:11 pm
  • KDawg, you do actually bring some good conversation. But it's not just a few on your site, it is literally the "welcome" message to Seahawk fans on your site which says to keep our opinions to ourselves unless we completely agree with the opinions expressed by the ER.com home crowd. Oh, and go away! And we are racist because some idiot allegedly made a comment about Sean Taylor's murder back in 2007.

    On to football:

    I do think the Seahawk's D matches up very well with your offense. I say very well because I believe that RGIII's degraded physical status will be greatly amplified against this defense. He was able to slip past some of the Cowboy defenders on a couple of occasions, but there is a different level coming this Sunday. Also, Browner and Sherman don't get much pub for their run support but they are both excellent in that regard. Especially Browner who weighs in at about 225lbs and won't normally be denied his point by a WR trying to block him. He is very capable of putting a Kam Chancellor type hit on all comers.

    I like Alfred Morris and his nickname is cool too. I believe he will probably get close to hundred yards, but it will be hard earned. He must be very tough to get ahold of because he doesn't seem fast and not much of a wiggle either, but the dude can ball (obviously, 1600 yards). Your other weapons; The Seahawks are #1 in the NFL against opposing #1 receivers. They are 10th against #2s & #3s. Whatever Garcon has done for this offense will likely be greatly diminished against us. We are only mid level against TEs but that is the one position where the Redskins aren't really a factor.

    It wasn't too long ago that 'Hawk fans felt our defense had a better shot at stopping an offense on 3rd and 1 as opposed to 3rd and 10. I know that's backward, but it seemed to hold true. Going by memory I think we were statistically last in allowing 3rd down conversions at about the week five mark. Now you say we are 24th. Still not good overall, but it would seem we are about the league average over the past ten weeks or so. Trust me though, every one of us will be holding our breath when we get you to that 3rd and 8-10 yards.

    The Seahawks ST is good in all aspects. Looking purely at stats, the Redskin's ST is pretty bad. I hope that you have plenty of kick-off returns against us to prove if the stats are correct or not.

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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:06 am
  • SoCalSeahawk wrote:KDawg, you do actually bring some good conversation. But it's not just a few on your site, it is literally the "welcome" message to Seahawk fans on your site which says to keep our opinions to ourselves unless we completely agree with the opinions expressed by the ER.com home crowd. Oh, and go away! And we are racist because some idiot allegedly made a comment about Sean Taylor's murder back in 2007.


    I'll address this now, considering people keep bringing it up. I posted that I was from extremeskins.com in order to prove to you that we have good posters there. Not just one, but many. The mods are not employed by the team, they are merely fans who get tired of wading through stuff. I don't advocate their actions, but it's not just opposing team fans that they put on a short leash. Several 'Skins fans have been banned. Many of which go around to other sites bashing extremeskins.com. To each their own. I don't find the need to bash anyone for their opinions. Everyone is entitled to them and I understand the reasoning behind the forums dislike. But like I said, I came here for two reasons: 1) I love the game of football and want to have some good convo. 2) To represent ES properly.

    I'm glad I made the decision to register, I'm having a blast talking football with you guys.

    He was able to slip past some of the Cowboy defenders on a couple of occasions, but there is a different level coming this Sunday.


    DeMarcus Ware isn't just some defender. He's one of the NFLs best. I don't think the Seahawk Ends play at the same level as Ware. In fact, the only part of your defense that doesn't completely scare me are your guys on the edges.

    Also, Browner and Sherman don't get much pub for their run support but they are both excellent in that regard.


    Oh, absolutely. Those two can play in all facets of the game. Solid, solid defensive backs. I'm hoping Browner is a bit rusty, to be honest :)
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:31 am
  • The 'Skins run some extremely interesting wrinkles in their offense as well. With the pistol set, and Darrell Young aligned in the backfield (our fullback) they run some interesting plays to keep defenses on their toes. Young is an underrated player, but make no mistake, he's a very, very good fullback.

    They run elements of Nevada's offense developed by Chris Ault. You've seen bits and pieces of it with the 49ers and former Wolfpack quarterback Colin Kaepernick, but you haven't seen it to the extent that the Redskins run it.

    From the pistol set running the zone read they do some different things. They do it without a fullback. Or they do it with one. When Young is in, they will often have him run directly at the EMLOS (End man on line of scrimmage). Ends and outside backers who are the force player have certain techniques to attack a fullback coming at them. Some utilize the wrong arm, some like to rip across. It varies from team to team. But what winds up throwing that scheme down the toilet is when the fullback doesn't block the end, but rather runs by him and picks up the nearest backer inside (which is called an arc block). That leaves the EMLOS as the read man for the zone read. But keep in mind, that end is also a guy that was primed to be blocked by the fullback, so he's likely out of position one way or the other.

    Now, to mix it up, the 'Skins will do the same thing, except instead of having Young arc block the backer, he'll attempt to hook the EMLOS. This is Ault's "Slice" play. By hooking the EMLOS, they seal the exterior of the LOS and open up a running lane to the outside. So the EMLOS now has to worry about Young blocking him or arc releasing past him. Now add the TE seam (or WR seam) option out of the look as well, where Griffin can keep it on the read and throw to the receiver. That receiver should help keep a safety out of the box to prevent the run. I'm A-OK with keeping Earl Thomas occupied by any means necessary. The dude can play.

    What's most interesting about this matchup is Carroll's Monte Kiffin taught cover 2 system. It's a flexible defense.

    Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor are key cogs to stopping the Redskin offense. The Seahawks will probably move Thomas around quite a bit from lining up on the LOS to playing the deep centerfield 1 high man look that they've been using. The Redskins need to have a counter for Thomas' flexibility. He is possibly the best defensive player on your team, in my opinion, and that's saying quite a lot with guys like Mebane, Bryant, Sherman, Browner, Wagner on that defense.

    He holds the key to this game (along with your corners). If they can shut down the zone read, the 'Skins will be forced into a base look consisting of the stretch run and zone action off of it. From there, if Seattle can neutralize that, it will be a long game for the 'Skins. But whether they can or not remains to be seen. Seattle's defense ranks 23rd in yards per carry against. They rank the same as the Cowboys do.

    I like Seattle's D, and I think they'll have more success against Morris and Griffin in the run game than the Cowboys did, but keep in mind that Washington boasts the number one rushing offense in the NFL.

    So while I have concerns over our offense getting moving, my biggest concern is our defense. Your offense is downright scary, and I don't want to see a shootout, because your defense is better than ours, and if it comes down to making one or two key stops you guys certainly have the advantage.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:10 pm
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    If your Skins have a lead in the fourth, watch for Wilson to come alive. Since college, the trends have screamed that he gets hottest in crunch time, and his rookie year is no exception. Best of luck Sunday.


    The same came be said for RG3, though. Our quarterbacks are both calm, cool and collected and absolute leaders of men.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:47 pm
  • I looked up ES, but after I read the first post by the mods, I didn't bother reading much more.

    Believe me, I've seen opposing fans get torn up here, and for really no good reason at times. I don't really like it when anyone is a total homer, no matter of fan base, because it's really annoying. It's probably less annoying when it's your own team, but it's still somewhat annoying.

    That said, the Skins were the team I wanted to face least. It will be a close game, and may the best team win. I hope for a good clean game with no officiating fiascos/drama.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:55 pm
  • Went to es.com and got banned for saying "All I'm trying to do is gather some discourse on a site I know I can get an opposing opinion. Do you seriously have no interest in conversations with other fans in the league? I'm ok with that, maybe you could direct me to a board that encourages that type of discourse? "

    Whatever, I'm just happy to be on this board and out of that kind of strangeness. Thanks for bringing a lucid viewpoint of the Redskins perspective. I think we can all agree it's going to be a fantastic game. The one thing I'm excited to find out is how good the Seahawks really are. I'm also excited to see RGIII up against a top 5 defense.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:56 pm
  • Shock2k wrote:Went to es.com and got banned for saying "All I'm trying to do is gather some discourse on a site I know I can get an opposing opinion. Do you seriously have no interest in conversations with other fans in the league? I'm ok with that, maybe you could direct me to a board that encourages that type of discourse? "

    Whatever, I'm just happy to be on this board and out of that kind of strangeness. Thanks for bringing a lucid viewpoint of the Redskins perspective. I think we can all agree it's going to be a fantastic game. The one thing I'm excited to find out is how good the Seahawks really are. I'm also excited to see RGIII up against a top 5 defense.

    That's unfortunate.
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:18 pm
  • LuvMySkins wrote:
    Shock2k wrote:Went to es.com and got banned for saying "All I'm trying to do is gather some discourse on a site I know I can get an opposing opinion. Do you seriously have no interest in conversations with other fans in the league? I'm ok with that, maybe you could direct me to a board that encourages that type of discourse? "

    Whatever, I'm just happy to be on this board and out of that kind of strangeness. Thanks for bringing a lucid viewpoint of the Redskins perspective. I think we can all agree it's going to be a fantastic game. The one thing I'm excited to find out is how good the Seahawks really are. I'm also excited to see RGIII up against a top 5 defense.

    That's unfortunate.


    It's all good, I'm fortunately on a site where you guys can head over and have the conversation I was looking for.

    With that, it has to be in the back of your mind that this is going to be the toughest defense you've face all year. You must be wondering how REALLY good your offense is.

    When we put up 42 on the 9'ers, it wasn't the real 9'ers, Aldon Smith was shut down without having Justin pullling blocks for him. So I'm really not sure what to think of that game. Especially when the Rams (Still a really good defense) gave us so many problems with thier blitz schemes.

    This game gives me more questions then confidence. I kind of wish it was the NFCC Games instead. Maybe next year. I could see these two teams as #1/#2 with byes. (Of course the Seahawks are the #1 seed).
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:55 pm
  • There's two ways this game is going to go. 1) The Seahawks will get up 10-0 or 14-0 early in the 1st, forcing the 'skins to give up on their run game entirely, and it'll end up being an embarrassing blowout. or 2) see 1.

    Sorry 'Skins fans. Thanks for visiting, but seriously, analyze this game all you want, it's not going to change the fact that we have Russell Wilson and He will refuse to let us lose.

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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:16 pm
  • Shock2k wrote:It's all good, I'm fortunately on a site where you guys can head over and have the conversation I was looking for.

    With that, it has to be in the back of your mind that this is going to be the toughest defense you've face all year. You must be wondering how REALLY good your offense is.

    When we put up 42 on the 9'ers, it wasn't the real 9'ers, Aldon Smith was shut down without having Justin pullling blocks for him. So I'm really not sure what to think of that game. Especially when the Rams (Still a really good defense) gave us so many problems with thier blitz schemes.

    This game gives me more questions then confidence. I kind of wish it was the NFCC Games instead. Maybe next year. I could see these two teams as #1/#2 with byes. (Of course the Seahawks are the #1 seed).

    Im definitely eager to see how you guys play us on offense as when we've played our best (not dropping 10 balls including TDs against the Steelers or a flatout dud of a game from a playcalling standpoint like Carolina) we really havent been stopped on offense. Even with teams that have seen the scheme twice. I have zero confidence in our D to consistently stop anyone but they have surprised me lately by getting stops and key turnovers at almost the perfect time.

    We havent seen a defense with the talent you guys have in the secondary so it should be a great battle :)
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Re: The Skins/Hawks Match Up
Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:25 pm
  • Some classy ' Skins fans in this thread. That shacked thread however...
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