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  • ESPN is apparently not thrilled with the outcome, since it's not front page, breaking news worthy.
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  • Look a broken seal, broken cup is not a technicality. A technicality is the tester initalized on page 1 of the report but not page 2, the lightning in the room was not up to OSHA standards so the piss test was invalidated.

    Those are technicalities

    BROKEN SEAL, BROKEN CUP - not technicalities. This is the foundation for drug testing. The fact that the sample cannot be altered / manipulated is one part of that but the main reason is somehow contaminated just by being in the same bag as other tests, underneath a previously used cup, in the same lab etc etc

    I am the first person that says Armstrong is guilty (said it 12 years ago the first time), I said good that Marion Jones spent all her money defending her lying. I honestly don't know if Sherman took something but the fact is that when the testing procedures are completely broken like in this case then you have to not convict the player. You cannot suspend him in cases like this and I don't care if it is Sherman or if it is Tom Brady that this happened to.......
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:ESPN is apparently not thrilled with the outcome, since it's not front page, breaking news worthy.


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  • I'm watching NFL AM this mornng and the topic of discussion was which team in the NFC West has the best defense. All three analysts(?) picked SF over SEA, some even saying SF is better on the road. All this time I though Sunday nights game was shown nationally, guess these guys didn't watch it at all.

    One analyst(?) even said "with Sherman suspended, SF has to be the best defense". Shortly after this piece, they announced Sherman beat the suspension.

    What a bunch of cow pucky. NFL.com needs to do a house cleaning and get rid of all of these East Coast bias a-holes with no brains that don't know what they are talking about most of the time.
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  • Jazzhawk wrote:More confirmation..........

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/?from=stnv2

    The NFL does not disclose results of a failed test until the suspension is imposed. As a result, the NFL has no statement currently on the case. But Albert Breer — who works for NFL.com — indicated that flaws in the testing procedure invalidated the result. Washington Post reporter Mark Maske spoke to someone familiar with the case, who called Sherman’s argument “a slam-dunk winner.”


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  • mikeak wrote:Look a broken seal, broken cup is not a technicality. A technicality is the tester initalized on page 1 of the report but not page 2, the lightning in the room was not up to OSHA standards so the piss test was invalidated.

    Those are technicalities

    BROKEN SEAL, BROKEN CUP - not technicalities. This is the foundation for drug testing. The fact that the sample cannot be altered / manipulated is one part of that but the main reason is somehow contaminated just by being in the same bag as other tests, underneath a previously used cup, in the same lab etc etc

    I am the first person that says Armstrong is guilty (said it 12 years ago the first time), I said good that Marion Jones spent all her money defending her lying. I honestly don't know if Sherman took something but the fact is that when the testing procedures are completely broken like in this case then you have to not convict the player. You cannot suspend him in cases like this and I don't care if it is Sherman or if it is Tom Brady that this happened to.......


    Thank you. People can't legitimately say, "Well, he still failed the test," because, in effect, no legitimate test was done.
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  • Escamillo wrote:
    mikeak wrote:Look a broken seal, broken cup is not a technicality. A technicality is the tester initalized on page 1 of the report but not page 2, the lightning in the room was not up to OSHA standards so the piss test was invalidated.

    Those are technicalities

    BROKEN SEAL, BROKEN CUP - not technicalities. This is the foundation for drug testing. The fact that the sample cannot be altered / manipulated is one part of that but the main reason is somehow contaminated just by being in the same bag as other tests, underneath a previously used cup, in the same lab etc etc

    I am the first person that says Armstrong is guilty (said it 12 years ago the first time), I said good that Marion Jones spent all her money defending her lying. I honestly don't know if Sherman took something but the fact is that when the testing procedures are completely broken like in this case then you have to not convict the player. You cannot suspend him in cases like this and I don't care if it is Sherman or if it is Tom Brady that this happened to.......


    Thank you. People can't legitimately say, "Well, he still failed the test," because, in effect, no legitimate test was done.


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  • CPHawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Again the NFL doesn't just let players off on a technicality. The Redskin player still got suspended even though he had a actual DR prescription. You have to prove without a shadow of a doubt you are innocent.


    Actually if the test comes back positive you have to invalidate the test. If it is in your body it doesn't matter how it got there. It doesn't matter if your drink was spiked when you were out partying the night before or if you were shooting up for weeks. The NFL wrote it into the CBA this way to get out of the disputes about innocent or not. If the test is positive you are guilty end of story.

    In this case there is no longer a test. The test was invalidated there is no case so there is no guilty nor innocent (beyond "until proven guilty")
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  • If dude pissed clean before the bad test then pissed clean after, i'd be more willing to blame the test (and the tester with the shoddy work history) than the player with the otherwise clean record.

    But I get how being all high an mighty can be fun too........
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  • Great news....now I just hope Browner has stayed in tip top shape.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:Sgt. Largent at it again. could have been anything. what if the tester had some adderall-laced piss on his gloved hand from handling a different specimen, then sherman's clean urine leaks onto the hand, the second cup is used to collect and is now cross-contaminated with the adderall urine still on the gloved hand. There are literally any number of circumstances that could cause Sherman's sample to become tianted that DON'T come down to Sherman having used Adderall.


    Honestly this could happen. He might have tested after Browner. :Dunno: Im very happy Sherman has won it and can play on. I did a dance around the house and my lady and 10 month boy watched like i was crazy when i seen the news break. :0190l:
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:ESPN is apparently not thrilled with the outcome, since it's not front page, breaking news worthy.


    They're still arguing over who's lying about Tebow not wanting to come in to run four plays for a horrible football team. Much more important than covering real news or good football teams.
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  • Well done Sherm! The worst part of all this is not the leaky cup but that his "PED CONVICTION" was leaked (!) to the press before the player was even allowed to defend himself. The league is a house of cards right now and crap like this doesn't help their case. Testing of this nature requires high levels of legitimacy,consistency and professionalism. None of which applied in this case.

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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:Like the Packer game, few are going to get past the initial reports.


    Kinda makes this all that much more enjoyable for me tbh.
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  • Hey guys, I LOVE Sherman, just saying I wish he'd go down on drug charges and be in prison for 10-15 is all. AINT GOT NO SEAHAWKS COLORED GLASSES ROUND 'ERE.
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  • pinksheets wrote:Hey guys, I LOVE Sherman, just saying I wish he'd go down on drug charges and be in prison for 10-15 is all. AINT GOT NO SEAHAWKS COLORED GLASSES ROUND 'ERE.

    Way to show you have some balls! Everyone else keep drinking that kool-aid. Now excuse me while I hit up 49erredzone and let them know I'm with them on their outrage that a cheater got off on a technicality.
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  • Sherm is awesome the charisma on this team is through the roof... why do people gotta hate.
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  • Who really knows if he's guilty or not? (Probably only Sherman) I hope it's lesson learned by all of these guys and we can all just move forward! I am very happy to have him playing! :0190l:
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  • Awesome news.Browner back for the playoffs and Lane and Maxwell got needed game playing time.win,win,win.

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  • peachesenregalia wrote:Ratings. Sherman=Ratings. Well played, NFL.....


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  • This has to be driving Goodell crazy. One of the biggest loudmouth's in the NFL got his goat.

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  • fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.
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  • pinksheets wrote:
    fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.

    If you like your team then you aren't allowed to have any negative comments about them at all. Duh!
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  • pinksheets wrote:
    fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.


    I actually want to be hated by outsiders......makes it that much better when we stop you 40-whiner fans.
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  • fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!


    Why are you here giving us a hard time? Honestly don't you have something better to do then troll here?
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  • fridayfrenzy wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:
    fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.

    If you like your team then you aren't allowed to have any negative comments about them at all. Duh!

    If you like your team then anything nice you have to say about them shouldn't be followed with "but..."

    You're struggling really hard here to mock the fanbase to somehow prove you are the more rational and level-headed person, but you just come out looking like a pompous ass who is sheepishly staring back at us all red-faced after entrenching himself in his (now proven) incorrect opinion.
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  • pinksheets wrote:Hey guys, I LOVE Sherman, just saying I wish he'd go down on drug charges and be in prison for 10-15 is all. AINT GOT NO SEAHAWKS COLORED GLASSES ROUND 'ERE.



    What?

    Edit: Ahh I get it now. You posted an explanation right before I posted this! Go Hawks.
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  • fridayfrenzy wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:
    fridayfrenzy wrote:I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.

    If you like your team then you aren't allowed to have any negative comments about them at all. Duh!

    There is a profound difference between negative and DICK.
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  • It's a very fine line though, Scotte. Or in Friday's case, a very small penis.
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  • Hey Friday, let me sum it up for you so you'll just shut up and go away:

    - It's a definite possibility that Sherman is guilty but was not suspended because of of poor testing procedures.
    - It is JUST AS DEFINITE A POSSIBLILITY that he is not guilty and the testing procedures were faulty thus creating a positive test when in reality he did not take Adderall.
    - Because the procedure was faulty, he was RIGHTFULLY not suspended. None of us will ever know what the real truth is, but the only reasonable and fair outcome came to be. To suspend someone when the testing procedure was screwed up would be a COMPLETE miscarriage of justice.

    To argue anything else on this situation is frivolous and beating a dead horse in the name of trying to be right. You're boring me son. Move on.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:
    fridayfrenzy wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:[quote="fridayfrenzy"]I LOVE the Seahawks. Woo hoo. We should be #1 in every power ranking now and shun that analyst if we aren't. Ahhhh. I am sooooo happy!

    I know, it's SO hard actually liking your team.

    If you like your team then you aren't allowed to have any negative comments about them at all. Duh!

    There is a profound difference between negative and DICK.[/quote]

    Why is this guy Harbaughing all over the place?
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  • If you're not absolutely ecstatically happy about this then I'm afraid you sir are a pussy.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:It's a very fine line though, Scotte. Or in Friday's case, a very small penis.

    Well, I am an expert in the nuances of douchebaggery, and I find his lack of subtlety in his sarcasm to be amatuerish and inane. Perhaps if FridayFryboy were to take some sort of prescribed product he would would have more focused sarcasm, with only hints of douchiness.

    If only there were such a product...
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  • Scottemojo wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:It's a very fine line though, Scotte. Or in Friday's case, a very small penis.

    Well, I am an expert in the nuances of douchebaggery, and I find his lack of subtlety in his sarcasm to be amatuerish and inane. Perhaps if FridayFryboy were to take some sort of prescribed product he would would have more focused sarcasm, with only hints of douchiness.

    If only there were such a product...


    Wait...I just heard something like this in the news recently....about such a product....dammit...nope. It's gone.
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  • More quotes

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    I'm also told the credibility, and strength of denial by @RSherman_25 was very important to the case getting overturned


    SC_DougFarrar ‏@SC_DougFarrar
    Just talked to Richard Sherman's attorney. This is getting good.


    I gather Doug updated his story with the attorney info here
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  • Quote from some commenter at PFT:

    You can tell that this guy was on something. Sitting on the sidelines in the game against the Cardinals, he could not sit still for one moment. Classic signs and symptoms of being speeded up by something other than “the 12th man.”


    Judging by the logic, that must have been the NFL's attorney.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Quote from some commenter at PFT:

    You can tell that this guy was on something. Sitting on the sidelines in the game against the Cardinals, he could not sit still for one moment. Classic signs and symptoms of being speeded up by something other than “the 12th man.”


    Judging by the logic, that must have been the NFL's attorney.

    Haha dumbest ish I've ever heard.
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  • drdiags wrote:More quotes

    Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    I'm also told the credibility, and strength of denial by @RSherman_25 was very important to the case getting overturned


    SC_DougFarrar ‏@SC_DougFarrar
    Just talked to Richard Sherman's attorney. This is getting good.


    I gather Doug updated his story with the attorney info here


    Good stuff Doc!

    The ph was off at the lab? That should tell you right there that the sample was contaminated.
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  • If I was Sherman I'd threaten PFT with a defamation lawsuit right now, that is just ridiculous, what credible publication would print something so inflammatory and unsubstantiated? It's blind reaching hate in print, that is disgusting, really?
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Quote from some commenter at PFT:

    You can tell that this guy was on something. Sitting on the sidelines in the game against the Cardinals, he could not sit still for one moment. Classic signs and symptoms of being speeded up by something other than “the 12th man.”


    Lmao.
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  • drdiags wrote:More quotes

    Chris Daniels ‏@ChrisDaniels5
    I'm also told the credibility, and strength of denial by @RSherman_25 was very important to the case getting overturned


    SC_DougFarrar ‏@SC_DougFarrar
    Just talked to Richard Sherman's attorney. This is getting good.


    I gather Doug updated his story with the attorney info here



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  • SNDavidson wrote:If I was Sherman I'd threaten PFT with a defamation lawsuit right now, that is just ridiculous, what credible publication would print something so inflammatory and unsubstantiated? It's blind reaching hate in print, that is disgusting, really?


    I think it was just a comment on an article, not print from the article itself.
    PFT wouldn't run that.
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