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He's definitively one of the best lineman we have . To the FO just start him at Guard or Tackle the rest of the year please.
Largent80":pyh55f5w said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Northwest Seahawk":2q0e8x4r said:Largent80":2q0e8x4r said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Wasn't Bailey playing Left tackle and wasn't the int on the right side, regardless I'll take Bailey over Britt period Britt wiffs 50 percent the time Bailey about ten percent of the plays so to me it's not close. Bailey played better than Okung does most games as well . We fundamentally disagree here .
Northwest Seahawk":2y85i23f said:Largent80":2y85i23f said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Wasn't Bailey playing Left tackle and wasn't the int on the right side, regardless I'll take Bailey over Britt period Britt wiffs 50 percent the time Bailey about ten percent of the plays so to me it's not close. Bailey played better than Okung does most games as well . We fundamentally disagree here .
Northwest Seahawk":20n4qw0w said:Largent80":20n4qw0w said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Wasn't Bailey playing Left tackle and wasn't the int on the right side, regardless I'll take Bailey over Britt period Britt wiffs 50 percent the time Bailey about ten percent of the plays so to me it's not close. Bailey played better than Okung does most games as well . We fundamentally disagree here .
HawkerD":34jzxgqg said:Northwest Seahawk":34jzxgqg said:Largent80":34jzxgqg said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Wasn't Bailey playing Left tackle and wasn't the int on the right side, regardless I'll take Bailey over Britt period Britt wiffs 50 percent the time Bailey about ten percent of the plays so to me it's not close. Bailey played better than Okung does most games as well . We fundamentally disagree here .
You're not fundamentally only disagreeing with those on this thread, your are disagreeing with the professional coaching staff of the Seahawks. Yes you have an "opinion" but beware, "opinions" can be wrong. Why in the world would they be starting the current 5 if Bailey is better? They made changes when they thought things weren't necessarily working so they are not afraid to of change. Unless you honestly believe you are a better judge of talent than the staff or you think that the staff is sabotaging the team, your "opinion" doesn't make any sense.
kidhawk":18r1os2b said:Bailey can easily be better now, but not have as much room for improvement.
HawkerD":2n3k3crh said:Northwest Seahawk":2n3k3crh said:Largent80":2n3k3crh said:Yeah, he had a fantastic whiff on Hardy that allowed him to intercept Russel's pass and if Russ hadn't gotten his ankles, he scores.
Wasn't Bailey playing Left tackle and wasn't the int on the right side, regardless I'll take Bailey over Britt period Britt wiffs 50 percent the time Bailey about ten percent of the plays so to me it's not close. Bailey played better than Okung does most games as well . We fundamentally disagree here .
You're not fundamentally only disagreeing with those on this thread, your are disagreeing with the professional coaching staff of the Seahawks. Yes you have an "opinion" but beware, "opinions" can be wrong. Why in the world would they be starting the current 5 if Bailey is better? They made changes when they thought things weren't necessarily working so they are not afraid to of change. Unless you honestly believe you are a better judge of talent than the staff or you think that the staff is sabotaging the team, your "opinion" doesn't make any sense.
hawknation2015":l7z63urw said:kidhawk":l7z63urw said:Bailey can easily be better now, but not have as much room for improvement.
Bailey is no way better than Okung, Britt, Nowak, Sweezy, or Gilliam right now.
I think he's also way behind Glowinksi as a run blocker, but is probably superior in pass pro (at least at LT).
kidhawk":1uwvj7uj said:hawknation2015":1uwvj7uj said:kidhawk":1uwvj7uj said:Bailey can easily be better now, but not have as much room for improvement.
Bailey is no way better than Okung, Britt, Nowak, Sweezy, or Gilliam right now.
I think he's also way behind Glowinksi as a run blocker, but is probably superior in pass pro (at least at LT).
Gilliam had zero business even being on the offensive line to start this season. Bailey was FAR better than Gilliam was then. Gilliam has improved, and is getting better by the week, something I don't believe Bailey would bring to the table, but he wasn't as good as Bailey when he started this season.
hawknation2015":n3i5ld9a said:kidhawk":n3i5ld9a said:hawknation2015":n3i5ld9a said:kidhawk":n3i5ld9a said:Bailey can easily be better now, but not have as much room for improvement.
Bailey is no way better than Okung, Britt, Nowak, Sweezy, or Gilliam right now.
I think he's also way behind Glowinksi as a run blocker, but is probably superior in pass pro (at least at LT).
Gilliam had zero business even being on the offensive line to start this season. Bailey was FAR better than Gilliam was then. Gilliam has improved, and is getting better by the week, something I don't believe Bailey would bring to the table, but he wasn't as good as Bailey when he started this season.
Northwest Seahawk":1k8yy3bh said:The offensive line play got better at the exact same time they started playing Bailey and it's not a coincidence. Bailey IS a better option than Britt but it would not be the first time a FO decided to start a player that's playing at a lower level than there backup now would it . Wyman after the game said Bailey played great at the toughest position to play offensive line left tackle and zero sacks so there is evidence to back up my position and Bailey is outplaying Britt. What they have said is over time Britt will be the better option down the road but that simply hasn't happened and were at the halfway point so . I'm not saying they can't win with Britt starting but Bailey is the better option.
kidhawk":2qetmws0 said:hawknation2015":2qetmws0 said:kidhawk":2qetmws0 said:hawknation2015":2qetmws0 said:Bailey is no way better than Okung, Britt, Nowak, Sweezy, or Gilliam right now.
I think he's also way behind Glowinksi as a run blocker, but is probably superior in pass pro (at least at LT).
Gilliam had zero business even being on the offensive line to start this season. Bailey was FAR better than Gilliam was then. Gilliam has improved, and is getting better by the week, something I don't believe Bailey would bring to the table, but he wasn't as good as Bailey when he started this season.
Sorry, but that is laughable. Gilliam beat out Bailey as the 5th starter in the preseason with superior athleticism and physicality. If Bailey has been in any way adequate, then he would be starting right now. They had to totally re-arrange the offensive line at the 11th hour because Bailey was not showing improvement or living up to expectations.[/quote
You didn't read what I wrote or maybe you just see what you want, I'm not sure, but you certainly aren't even close to right about what I said here.
Prior to game 1 of the season, Bailey was the better game day offensive lineman between himself and gilliam. Of that there is no question. Did Gilliam out work him in practice? There is a very high probability of that, which is why I noted that it could have something to do with his work ethic combined with overall potential.
What I do know is what I've seen of Bailey on the field during games in the past and even the present, and what I've seen in games of Gilliam, and Bailey was the more polished of the two at the position at the time. You are free to believe as you wish, but if you believe Gilliam was an improvement in skill level on the offensive line than the only person you are fooling here is yourself.
kidhawk":2qetmws0 said:Gilliam had zero business even being on the offensive line to start this season.
kidhawk":2qetmws0 said:You are free to believe as you wish, but if you believe Gilliam was an improvement in skill level on the offensive line than the only person you are fooling here is yourself.
hawknation2015":1gern2et said:If Gilliam were the weaker player at the start of the season, then Bailey would have started. Period.
kidhawk":2yao6qra said:hawknation2015":2yao6qra said:If Gilliam were the weaker player at the start of the season, then Bailey would have started. Period.
This sentence right here is why there is just no discussing this with you. Football experts will tell you that there are plenty of reasons that a slightly better player may not start over another player, but until you can believe in that possibility, trying to discuss the possibility is going to be fruitless