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Kevin Williams Signs with Saints
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hawknation2015
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If it's for less than $3 million, I would be disappointed. He's a much better player than Rubin, even at his age, with the perfect versatility to be a three technique pass rusher or a run stuffing nose tackle. He filled in well for us when Mebane went down, though I'm really happy to have Mebane back in action.
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Seems like a poor choice on his part...
FortWorthSeahawk
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Best of luck to him, though his chances of winning a Super Bowl will likely not be as great this year.
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FortWorthSeahawk":1zvnzi9y said:
Agreed, seemed last year winning an SB was a motivating factor. This year the Seahawks and Packers are still my best bet in the NFC. So guessing the difference in $$ will be somewhat substantial or just priorities changing
Best of luck to him, he really helped the Seahawks get back to the SB as we got deeper into the season.
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I don't like it, but I get why. Unless both Rubin and Mebane get hurt at the same time, we can probably survive just fine without WIlliams. Seattle was probably concerned about Williams falling off an age cliff suddenly. I have a hunch that Williams would have signed here for less than $3 million. He has enough money in the bank that I doubt this was over money. I don't think Seattle was interested.
Williams deserves a ring. Sucks for him that he came 1 play away from one. And that's probably going to be his one and only shot.
Williams deserves a ring. Sucks for him that he came 1 play away from one. And that's probably going to be his one and only shot.
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He and his wife of ten years are from Arkansas, and his wife was a star basketball player at Louisiana Tech. They have a couple kids. Maybe they want to be closer to family.
It's a nice one-year pickup for the Saints, who could really use his help in the interior. He will probably start for them.
It's a nice one-year pickup for the Saints, who could really use his help in the interior. He will probably start for them.
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He wasn't going to make the team and it's not for certain he will make the Saints.
hawknation2015":3fn5ew7j said:
Totally agree.
Sucks because I wanted him back. I get that he's old, but he played just fine last year and with Quinn gone, he would help a lot of the younger talent and depth develop.
I get what you're saying about the "age cliff" Kearly, but the weird thing is that Williams has been extremely durable his entire career, and we brought back Mebane, who has been hurt a lot more recently.
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Seafan":25v1juqj said:
Why do you think he wouldn't make the team? He played well in all 19 games last season.
Largent80
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So. Too bad he couldn't have made an impact in the super bowl or he would be a Hawk. They obviously felt Rubin will be the guy. Thanks Kevin
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hawknation2015":3jpvdwy5 said:
Same reason he wasn't re-signed.
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Largent80":3qk6c5ut said:
The truth is we might not have made it to the Super Bowl without him taking on double teams and shutting down the run. After Mebane went down, and then Hill, we were sort of out of options and Williams stepped up big time.
It's sort of hard to rush the passer when you are being asked to play the run on first and second downs. The Patriots ran for a total of 57 yards on 21 attempts (2.7 yards per carry). Blount had basically no impact -- 40 yards on 14 carries (2.8 yards per carry).
If the secondary was not so beaten up, or if Avril and Lane hadn't left the game, we would be championing Williams' fine work in shutting down the run rather than deriding his play in the Super Bowl.
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hawknation2015":2sibh4yp said:
I don't think the problem is the way he played in SB. The problem is where is he compared to the rest of the DL roster. Mebane, Rubin and even Hill are ahead of him at the nose. There are many bodies ahead of him at 3 and 5. He has no spot on the roster unless a lot of people get hurt. He stayed healthy last year which was amazing considering how everyone else went down. But was his play outstanding?
The same reason the Hawks didn't draft a DT is the reason they didn't resign KW. The team is happy with their current depth.
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Seafan":3u7tcefp said:
Yes, the signing of Rubin pretty much spelled the end of Williams' time as a Seahawk. But in terms of quickness and ability to play the run, Williams is a far superior player to Rubin, IMO. Hill has also been pretty deficient at playing the run, and mostly relegated to 3rd down situations. He was playing behind Williams for much of last year. They must like Rubin's upside as a pass rusher better than Williams' at his advanced age.
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Rubin does the 1 tech run stuffing better than KW. Hill does the 3rd down pass rushing better than KW. Rubin was insurance against Mebane not a replacement for KW. KW did a decent job filling in last season. Wish he could have gotten the ring. I'd rather have had Mebane or Hill in the SB. It's a numbers game and the Hawks have a lot of bodies for camp. If anything you have to ask do the Hawks like McDaniel over Williams. The answer is obviously yes.
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Seafan":2krjng6s said:
Except, Rubin was godawful last year playing NT and some people are saying he would be better off playing the three technique.
Williams was an average run stopper at the one technique, which is exactly what we needed last year.
From Rubin, they get a younger, albeit slower, and probably cheaper, veteran DT.
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kearly":1c8wnrlv said:
Yeah I felt really bad for him that he came that close and it was probably his only shot. Would have loved him as a depth signing, but oh well.
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Really disappointed to hear that we could not keep him.
Without him last year we don't sniff the SuperBowl. His ability to come in to make up for those injuries was so key.
And just as a football fan, who respected his tremendous play for years - I wanted to see him with a ring.
Disappointing to hear we lost him or didn't keep him.
Without him last year we don't sniff the SuperBowl. His ability to come in to make up for those injuries was so key.
And just as a football fan, who respected his tremendous play for years - I wanted to see him with a ring.
Disappointing to hear we lost him or didn't keep him.
