Why Seattle Should Have Let the 49ers Score

[MidwestHawker]

Name ONE TIME when that strategy actually worked.

Never seen it happen.

Don't have an example off the top of my head, but that really doesn't matter.

As a football fan, you have surely seen the following scenarios:
*Team gets the ball via kickoff with 2:00 left, needs a TD.
*Team gets the ball via kickoff with 25 seconds left, needs a FG.

Which one has worked out more often?

It really doesn't even remotely matter what led to that scenario existing; all that matters is the result of what situation the team ends up in.

 

[The Radish]

Boy you girls sure are good with your decisions after the fact.

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[MidwestHawker]

Boy you girls sure are good with your decisions after the fact.

:roll:

Uhhh I guess I could screenshot my text messages from right when it was happening? It was incredibly obvious to anyone who took two seconds to think about it.

 

[Veilside]

Boy you girls sure are good with your decisions after the fact.

:roll:

Too bad there is no way to prove how we were thinking during the game. Guess it's just best to assume we're lying for some odd reason.

 

[kearly]

Pete goofed, but I think he was staying true to his principles. This is the one time that "always compete" bit Pete in the ass. And even still, we are talking about the difference between 3% win probability and 7%. And for a game that probably won't mean anything at season's end.

That run by Kaepernick on 3rd and 8 was colossally huge. Had he run it in for a TD, even then it wouldn't have been as big. Credit to Roman for the perfect play call there. Seattle should have seen it coming.

 

[Popeyejones]

Do you think Gore didn't score on purpose on the 51 yard return?

Nah. Saw he was going to get caught and smartly dropped down to kill clock rather than going out of bounds. It looked silly -- the ref was even laughing about it -- but it was a heady play.

 

[The Radish]

Boy and girls we all only have opinions. As bad as we want to be field generals we aren't.


I have never been partial to "after the fact" complaining about a loss.

We lost mainly because the ninnirs came to play lots harder than we did and we got beat. No one or two plays or calls or dark of the moon can change that.

I want to punch Thomas in the mouth for being out of position most of the damned game and especially giving up that 51 yard run to Gore.

But we scored 17 point!!!! 17. Our offense stunk up the place starting with the middle of the second quarter. Its like they left just before halftime to head to Market Street for lunch.

Put the blame on how poorly we played on offense. Not on some few plays. That's my opinion worth just as much as yours.

:roll:

 

[MidwestHawker]

Pete goofed, but I think he was staying true to his principles. This is the one time that "always compete" bit Pete in the ass. And even still, we are talking about the difference between 3% win probability and 7%. And for a game that probably won't mean anything at season's end.

That run by Kaepernick on 3rd and 8 was colossally huge. Had he run it in for a TD, even then it wouldn't have been as big. Credit to Roman for the perfect play call there. Seattle should have seen it coming.

I agree about the game probably not meaning anything at season's end, but hard to imagine that being down either 5 or 7 points (Niners would have gone for two after a TD) with 2:00 left leaves us at a mere 7% win equity.

 

[Veilside]

Boy and girls we all only have opinions. As bad as we want to be field generals we aren't.


I have never been partial to "after the fact" complaining about a loss.

We lost mainly because the ninnirs came to play lots harder than we did and we got beat. No one or two plays or calls or dark of the moon can change that.

I want to punch Thomas in the mouth for being out of position most of the damned game and especially giving up that 51 yard run to Gore.

But we scored 17 point!!!! 17. Our offense stunk up the place starting with the middle of the second quarter. Its like they left just before halftime to head to Market Street for lunch.

Put the blame on how poorly we played on offense. Not on some few plays. That's my opinion worth just as much as yours.

:roll:

I didn't feel we played that poorly on offense and felt we were doing well moving the ball (minus the penalties) against a good defense on the road. I felt we could have scored more if we had given our offense better field position. Our STs were uncharacteristically weak this game with the exception of Tate's long return.

 

[Veilside]

Pete goofed, but I think he was staying true to his principles. This is the one time that "always compete" bit Pete in the ass. And even still, we are talking about the difference between 3% win probability and 7%. And for a game that probably won't mean anything at season's end.

That run by Kaepernick on 3rd and 8 was colossally huge. Had he run it in for a TD, even then it wouldn't have been as big. Credit to Roman for the perfect play call there. Seattle should have seen it coming.

I agree about the game probably not meaning anything at season's end, but hard to imagine that being down either 5 or 7 points (Niners would have gone for two after a TD) with 2:00 left leaves us at a mere 7% win equity.

Agreed. I think 7% is way too low. Wilson is starting to approach how I felt about watching Brady in clutch situations.

 

[Tical21]

Kearly nailed it. Letting a team do anything is not in Pete's vocabulary. He feels it sets a bad president for his team's mindset. Same reason he didn't call timeouts in the Rams game.

 

[SonicHawk]

The bigger question is why does RW throw a hail mary that doesn't reach the end zone when there was no possibility of a way to stop the clock if the receiver somehow caught it? You could of had two plays to make it into FG range but instead an absolutely worthless pass on the first play ends the game.

 

[razgriz737]

The bigger question is why does RW throw a hail mary that doesn't reach the end zone when there was no possibility of a way to stop the clock if the receiver somehow caught it? You could of had two plays to make it into FG range but instead an absolutely worthless pass on the first play ends the game.

This is actually a good point. If Kearse caught that, there's no he was getting out of bounds, and there probably wasn't enough time to somehow run down the field and spike it.

 

[themunn]

DPI moves the chains and stops the clock
incompletion stops the clock
there's no way we were catching two intermediate sideline passes and getting OB, so it's the best option

 

[SonicHawk]

DPI moves the chains and stops the clock
incompletion stops the clock
there's no way we were catching two intermediate sideline passes and getting OB, so it's the best option

Incompletion doesn't do us any good, a PI on basically a hail mary just won't happen.

And anyways, haven't you watched our WR? We accrue more OPI's than any team I've ever seen.

 

[knownone]

Russ had to throw the Hail Mary, there wasn't enough time for underneath routes.

The strategy itself was fine, had we got a decent return we'd probably win the game.

 

[razgriz737]

Tate sure did pick a bad time to have a crappy return, haha.

 

[SonicHawk]

Russ had to throw the Hail Mary, there wasn't enough time for underneath routes.

The strategy itself was fine, had we got a decent return we'd probably win the game.

There wasn't enough time for a terrible HM either.

 

[knownone]

Russ had to throw the Hail Mary, there wasn't enough time for underneath routes.

The strategy itself was fine, had we got a decent return we'd probably win the game.

There wasn't enough time for a terrible HM either.

Agreed. We needed a chunk play though, if Kearse stayed on his feet he may have caught it and given us on opportunity for one more play.

 

[HawkFan72]

The 49ers would have knelt at the 1. They aren't stupid they knew their best chance to win was to take as much time off the clock as possible.

You guys are only assuming they would run into the endzone, but they wouldn't have. They were in full "run the clock down" mode.