The 2018 Recruiting Thread

[DomeHawk]

I think he’s not athletic enough to be a linebacker, not big enough to be a d’linemen. Plus I’ve heard some things about his competitiveness from guys who have coached against him.

Just my opinion.

There were I think 9 4 stars in Oregon this year, huganga (usc), Lenzy (Notre Dame) and Cota (UCLA) were the only ones I liked. The majority of Oregon high school players are overrated because they play crap competition, in my opinion. Including the ones signing with Oregon.

C'mon, get real. If he decommits, "we didn't want him anyway." If he commits, he's a "borderline" 5-star. Very entertaining.

Go back and read my post when he commited. The nicest thing I said about him was that his brother plays for the ducks.

It seems to me this whole thing about Oregon players playing against "crap" competition started when some of the top Oregon players started choosing UDub over Oregon.

Portland is a major metropolitan area, are you saying there is no competition there?

 

[DomeHawk]

Yes, over Alabama and USC.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/co ... 60009.html

 

[JSeahawks]

Portland is a major metropolitan area, are you saying there is no competition there?

Portland has notoriously bad football. The last time a Portland league team won the high school state championship was 1988. They produce a lot of basketball players, very few football players.

This year Clackamas high school won the state title, they won’t put a single player into power 5 college football..

 

[DomeHawk]

Portland is a major metropolitan area, are you saying there is no competition there?

Portland has notoriously bad football. The last time a Portland league team won the high school state championship was 1988. They produce a lot of basketball players, very few football players.

This year Clackamas high school won the state title, they won’t put a single player into power 5 college football..

I'm seeing: (All of these are Portland metro area players headed to Power-5 conferences)

Trey Lowe

Braden Lenzy

Eli'jah Winston

Draco Bynum

MJ Cunningham

Dawson Jaramillo

Jake Dukart

Keishon Dawkins

Andrew Peasley

Bradley Bickler

 

[DomeHawk]

https://realdawghuskies.com/2018/01/31/ ... -decision/

 

[JSeahawks]

Portland is a major metropolitan area, are you saying there is no competition there?

Portland has notoriously bad football. The last time a Portland league team won the high school state championship was 1988. They produce a lot of basketball players, very few football players.

This year Clackamas high school won the state title, they won’t put a single player into power 5 college football..

I'm seeing: (All of these are Portland metro area players headed to Power-5 conferences)

Trey Lowe

Braden Lenzy

Eli'jah Winston

Draco Bynum

MJ Cunningham

Dawson Jaramillo

Jake Dukart

Keishon Dawkins

Andrew Peasley

Bradley Bickler

Cunningham is the only Portland league kid on that list.

 

[DomeHawk]

Portland is a major metropolitan area, are you saying there is no competition there?

Portland has notoriously bad football. The last time a Portland league team won the high school state championship was 1988. They produce a lot of basketball players, very few football players.

This year Clackamas high school won the state title, they won’t put a single player into power 5 college football..

I'm seeing: (All of these are Portland metro area players headed to Power-5 conferences)

Trey Lowe

Braden Lenzy

Eli'jah Winston

Draco Bynum

MJ Cunningham

Dawson Jaramillo

Jake Dukart

Keishon Dawkins

Andrew Peasley

Bradley Bickler

Cunningham is the only Portland league kid on that list.

They're Portland metropolitan area kids. That's what I wrote, Portland is a major metropolitan area. You won't find the best players coming from inside the city limits of Seattle either, it's 3A football, that doesn't mean they aren't Seattle area kids.

 

[JSeahawks]

Portland has notoriously bad football. The last time a Portland league team won the high school state championship was 1988. They produce a lot of basketball players, very few football players.

This year Clackamas high school won the state title, they won’t put a single player into power 5 college football..

I'm seeing: (All of these are Portland metro area players headed to Power-5 conferences)

Trey Lowe

Braden Lenzy

Eli'jah Winston

Draco Bynum

MJ Cunningham

Dawson Jaramillo

Jake Dukart

Keishon Dawkins

Andrew Peasley

Bradley Bickler

Cunningham is the only Portland league kid on that list.

They're Portland metropolitan area kids. That's what I wrote, Portland is a major metropolitan area. You won't find the best players coming from inside the city limits of Seattle either, it's 3A football, that doesn't mean they aren't Seattle area kids.

Alright, fair enough. I was misunderstanding you. I thought you were talking about inner city Portland proper. I'm from here so I dont really consider all of those suburbs as part of Portland.

Still, that misunderstanding aside, that list of players still proves my point. I dont think there's a player on that list that would ever be a regular starter at either UW or UO., and this is considered a banner year for Oregon high school talent.

Lenzy would get into the rotation and make some plays, but i dont think he'd ever be "the man".

Jaramillo, Winston and Cunningham are all commited to the Ducks. I think Jaramillo will be a rotation player eventually, i doubt he's ever a starter. Winston and Cunningham will be special teams players and mop up duties at best in their careers. If I had to bet i'd bet they end up transferring down to a lower division after getting buried on the deptch chart.

Bynum and Lowe are going to UW. I'd bet Bynum has a similar career to Jaramillo. He'll get some playing time but i doubt he ever starts. Lowe i doubt ever even sniffs the field. (I'm sure you'll argue with me and tell me how great they are... but in reality, this is a compliment to UW's football team. Lowe is rated as a 4 star and I dont think he's anywhere near good enough to play for UW).

I"ve never even heard of the last 4 names on the list. But I know they're not good enough to get scholarship offers from Oregon or Washington.

Hufanga, from Corvallis, is the Oregon player who's going to be a first round nfl draft pick someday. He's heading to USC.

And look, its all in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure there are some players that I really like a lot that you dont, and i'm sure there are players that you dont like that i do. There are Huskies I dont like, there are Ducks I dont like, there are Seahawks I dont like. There are also Huskies that I love (i'd take Yankoff over any player Oregon has commited). Its not an "Oh, he commited to UW, he sucks!" thing. Its just a, "in my personal opinion he's not very good" thing. (not very good obviously being relative. Obviously theyre all much better football players then I ever was cuz they're getting college scholarships to play). But you know as well as I do that not all scholarship players work out.

And that my friend might be the longest post i've ever made in my 15 years on this site.

 

[JSeahawks]

So youre telling me that you think the guys in the Portland area are playing against similar competition as guys in So Cal, Texas, Florida, Georgia, parts of Utah, Alabama, Ohio, Lousiana etc, etc? I'd take a 3 star from any of those states over a 4 star from Oregon almost every single time because of the competition they play.

And no, i dont really care or pay that much attention to Oregon STate or Washington STate when it comes to recruiting because we almost never are competing for the same players.

 

[DomeHawk]

So youre telling me that you think the guys in the Portland area are playing against similar competition as guys in So Cal, Texas, Florida, Georgia, parts of Utah, Alabama, Ohio, Lousiana etc, etc? I'd take a 3 star from any of those states over a 4 star from Oregon almost every single time.

And no, i dont really care or pay that much attention to Oregon STate or Washington STate when it comes to recruiting because we almost never are competing for the same players.

Lol, I've never seen anyone backpedal so much in my life. I just said that there are going to be more in more heavily populated areas but that doesn't mean that there can't be 4-star players from the Portland area, there just won't be as many. There are always going to be a certain percentage of elite athletes in any population, that's just a scientific fact. Do you think the people making these evaluations make a bias for Portland players? Do the coaches who also evaluate also do that?

You are over-engaged in the hype.

BTW, you aren't competing for the same players? Maybe you should be, you might be able to beat them one of these years. Apparently that doesn't extend to the WSU coaches whom you are pilfering one after another.

 

[JSeahawks]

So youre telling me that you think the guys in the Portland area are playing against similar competition as guys in So Cal, Texas, Florida, Georgia, parts of Utah, Alabama, Ohio, Lousiana etc, etc? I'd take a 3 star from any of those states over a 4 star from Oregon almost every single time.

And no, i dont really care or pay that much attention to Oregon STate or Washington STate when it comes to recruiting because we almost never are competing for the same players.

Lol, I've never seen anyone backpedal so much in my life. I just said that there are going to be more in more heavily populated areas but that doesn't mean that there can't be 4-star players from the Portland area, there just won't be as many. There are always going to be a certain percentage of elite athletes in any population, that's just a scientific fact. Do you think the people making these evaluations make a bias for Portland players? Do the coaches who also evaluate also do that?

You are over-engaged in the hype.

I think a guy like Trey Lowe playing against the competition up here looks like a super star. Put a guy like Trey Lowe in a league in Louisiana and I think he's probably a 2nd or 3rd string running back at a lot of schools down there. So yes, Trey Lowe is a 4 star playing in Oregon and probably wouldnt be ranked as high playing in Louisiana. Coaches make mistakes in evaluations all the time. Look back at Chris Peterson's classes at WAshington a bunch of dudes never amount to anything. Dabo Sweeney and Nick Saban recruit guys that never amount to anything. Its not an exact science. Every coach in the country makes mistakes in evaluations. I am sharing my opinion of who is good and who isnt. It doesnt make me right. It makes it my opinion.

If youre still here in 4 years we'll look back and see what kind of careers Jaramillo, Bynum, Lowe, Winston and Cunningham had. And if they turn into solid players yo'ure more then welcome to call me out on it. I really hope that in 3 of those cases i'm wrong. But right now you dont know that they're going to be good any more then i think that they won't.

 

[DomeHawk]

But right now you dont know that they're going to be good any more then i think that they won't.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say.

 

[DomeHawk]

I know you guys have talked about this a bit but I'm really hoping to close out the class by stealing Tuli Letuligasenoa from USC. He's a perfect fit here with the departure of Vita Vea and there's a logjam at his position at USC.

This would make 21 commits, I have heard that we might take another depending on who's available but Petersen likes to recruit 17-20 recruits each year to keep his classes balanced.

https://thehuskyhaul.com/2018/01/27/rec ... ball-team/

 

[JSeahawks]

But right now you dont know that they're going to be good any more then i think that they won't.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say.

Well, internet fist bump!! We finally found common ground.

 

[Anajimmc]

I'm into recruiting as it's an extension of the on field competition. All of these high school kids are very good against high school competition. Some of these kids appear to be on a level greater than all the others around them and appear to be can't miss recruits. Well there are far more misses than hits. There are so many variables that go into the equation, relative physical maturity, mental maturity, level of competition, going from being the big thing to just being one of the guys, etc. Over the years I've worried about that can't miss talent that got away, and they never even make the field. So I'll get excited about the kids SC signs, and wish the others good luck, except that week that they step on the field against SC.

 

[DomeHawk]

I'm into recruiting as it's an extension of the on field competition. All of these high school kids are very good against high school competition. Some of these kids appear to be on a level greater than all the others around them and appear to be can't miss recruits. Well there are far more misses than hits. There are so many variables that go into the equation, relative physical maturity, mental maturity, level of competition, going from being the big thing to just being one of the guys, etc. Over the years I've worried about that can't miss talent that got away, and they never even make the field. So I'll get excited about the kids SC signs, and wish the others good luck, except that week that they step on the field against SC.

Good post Anajimmc, I have experienced this process on a very personal level and I know that these are really good kids. As competitive as I am, I would rather have an eight-win coach whose ethics are beyond reproach that a 10-11 win coach that has a win-at-all-costs approach. While a football coach isn't necessarily a life coach these are still kids and while the vast majority won't make a living playing football, even those that do will still need some basic structure to succeed in life.

It's not quite over but it's been a fun (and yes, contentious) recruiting season, it's all good, nothing wrong with a good scrap now and then.

This upcoming season looks like a good one, should be fun, I actually think this may be the Huskies best season of the three. I wish all you guy's teams (even J's, lol) luck and that you have an injury-free season.

I hope that's not too optimistic but in either case IT'S GREAT TO BE A HUSKY!!!

 

[Anajimmc]

I'm into recruiting as it's an extension of the on field competition. All of these high school kids are very good against high school competition. Some of these kids appear to be on a level greater than all the others around them and appear to be can't miss recruits. Well there are far more misses than hits. There are so many variables that go into the equation, relative physical maturity, mental maturity, level of competition, going from being the big thing to just being one of the guys, etc. Over the years I've worried about that can't miss talent that got away, and they never even make the field. So I'll get excited about the kids SC signs, and wish the others good luck, except that week that they step on the field against SC.

Good post Anajimmc, I have experienced this process on a very personal level and I know that these are really good kids. As competitive as I am, I would rather have an eight-win coach whose ethics are beyond reproach that a 10-11 win coach that has a win-at-all-costs approach. While a football coach isn't necessarily a life coach these are still kids and while the vast majority won't make a living playing football, even those that do will still need some basic structure to succeed in life.

It's not quite over but it's been a fun (and yes, contentious) recruiting season, it's all good, nothing wrong with a good scrap now and then.

This upcoming season looks like a good one, should be fun, I actually think this may be the Huskies best season of the three. I wish all you guy's teams luck and that you have an injury-free season.

I hope that's not too optimistic but in either case IT'S GREAT TO BE A HUSKY!!!

Nice post, and good luck to the Huskies. I like Peterson quite a bit, I also like Helton. They seem to be of the same mold. Helton's "pitch" to players and their families is "Faith, Family and Football" He seems to be an even and honorable person, never over the top, really more fitting of a mid west school as opposed to SC, but it seems to be working for him. Hopefully SC will continue to do well, regardless I'll always be a fan.

 

[JSeahawks]

I know you guys have talked about this a bit but I'm really hoping to close out the class by stealing Tuli Letuligasenoa from USC. He's a perfect fit here with the departure of Vita Vea and there's a logjam at his position at USC.

This would make 21 commits, I have heard that we might take another depending on who's available but Petersen likes to recruit 17-20 recruits each year to keep his classes balanced.

https://thehuskyhaul.com/2018/01/27/rec ... ball-team/

Uw also has Jeremiah Martin visiting this weekend. He’s a pass rushing specialist that I really like. He was kind of a late bloomer so hasn’t got a ton of attention until recently. He had something insane like 30 sacks this season (I can’t remember the exact number but it was in that range.) Hes going to be choosing between Texas A&M, usc, Washington and Oregon.

 

[JSeahawks]

I'm into recruiting as it's an extension of the on field competition. All of these high school kids are very good against high school competition. Some of these kids appear to be on a level greater than all the others around them and appear to be can't miss recruits. Well there are far more misses than hits. There are so many variables that go into the equation, relative physical maturity, mental maturity, level of competition, going from being the big thing to just being one of the guys, etc. Over the years I've worried about that can't miss talent that got away, and they never even make the field. So I'll get excited about the kids SC signs, and wish the others good luck, except that week that they step on the field against SC.

Yep, whichever school you root for you’re only going to get between 18-28 and miss out on 500 others, so you might as well celebrate the ones you get and not stress out about the ones you don’t.

 

[Anajimmc]

I know you guys have talked about this a bit but I'm really hoping to close out the class by stealing Tuli Letuligasenoa from USC. He's a perfect fit here with the departure of Vita Vea and there's a logjam at his position at USC.

This would make 21 commits, I have heard that we might take another depending on who's available but Petersen likes to recruit 17-20 recruits each year to keep his classes balanced.

https://thehuskyhaul.com/2018/01/27/rec ... ball-team/

Uw also has Jeremiah Martin visiting this weekend. He’s a pass rushing specialist that I really like. He was kind of a late bloomer so hasn’t got a ton of attention until recently. He had something insane like 30 sacks this season (I can’t remember the exact number but it was in that range.) Hes going to be choosing between Texas A&M, usc, Washington and Oregon.

There's no buzz or even talk about him on any SC sites. That Cardinal & Gold hat will likely be on the table for window dressing.