Cyrus12
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Worst call since the Tuck Rule....Fail Mary simple as that! All the talk on tv and radio though is about how great Erin Rogers is...
Uncle Si":8os5ozhz said:Because the refs did not "decide" the game...
If you don't agree with the call, that's fine. they did provide one team one chance to throw a 61 yard score while the other team had to defend it.
ivotuk":1iglotef said:Cartire":1iglotef said:Uncle Si":1iglotef said:It does matter how it looked since its a judgment call based on what they are seeing and not one they can review. Refs make bad calls all the time. I just didn't see this one as egregious.
Now, based on it, I wouldn't mind seeing roughing calls reviewable, as the slow mo clearly showed it was barely a touch of the face mask.
and screw the Lions for blowing that game.
Its not a suppose to be a judgement call though. Did he, or did he not, grab the facemask. If the Ref doesnt see it (which he couldnt have because it didnt happen) then he shouldnt throw the flag. Assuming something happened is dumb. I would rather a ref miss a call then call one incorrectly.
Yes, there is human element. Yes, mistakes will be made. But that doesnt make them correct. That just makes them mistakes that werent corrected. You want to decrease the amount of penalties in a game, not increase them. Refs shouldnt throw a flag unless they are sure something happened. Let them play.
I can't agree with the bolded portion. If someone grabs Russell's facemask and twists his head around, but the referee is behind Wilson and doesn't actually "see" the fingers in the face mask, I want him to call it.
I don't want a referee to say "Well, I didn't actually see the "grab." It could have been something else that twisted his face mask and helmet around."
It may not have been a personal foul, but imho, it was at the very least a 5 yard penalty. So then the question would be; "Could Rodgers have thrown it that distance?"
But that's the only question I see there.
WilsonMVP":1lkp0s27 said:Uncle Si":1lkp0s27 said:Because the refs did not "decide" the game...
If you don't agree with the call, that's fine. they did provide one team one chance to throw a 61 yard score while the other team had to defend it.
Considering the clock was at zero with the packers losing...then uh..yes they did decide the game?
Also there is this i suppose
Over the past 3 games which the Packers have played...2 of them on the road and all 3 with multiple OL out the Packers have been penalized 14 times for 112 yards. Their opponents...Vikings...Bears and Lions have been penalized 29 times for 313 yards...INCREDIBLE!
If you want to add Seahawks to that it goes to
Packers - 20 times for 147 yards
Vikings, Bears, Lions, Seahawks, 35 times for 405 yards
Just look at that..are you shitting me?
Also...I found this while looking at penalties this morning and made a post on a vikings forum
My post
Was just looking at penalties from this site
http://www.nflpenalties.com/automatic-f ... ?year=2015
Packers in one more game than everyone but the lions have only 6 Automatic First Down Penalties against them...6 whole freaking penalties
The next 4 teams are at 11 (Steelers, Redskins, Jets, Bengals)
Color me shocked that the Steelers and Packers would be #1 and #2 in that but theres no ref bias though guys, none at all rolleyes
If anyones curious Vikings are 4th highest against us with 25. Yes you read that correctly. Vikings have 19 more penalties against them resulting in automatic first downs than the packers have...Rediculous
Also they are #2 in Automatic First downs FOR them with 27 penalties, Vikings have 17.
So what is that for the Packers a +21 advantage on Automatic first downs and the Vikings are -8. That is absurd...A 29 flag difference? 29!!!!!
This!They need to allow teams to review calls such as this one (facemask) at any phase of the game.I myself thought Erin crossed the LOS on that hail mary.Would have been nice to see that calledUncle Si":2z5oj90t said:It does matter how it looked since its a judgment call based on what they are seeing and not one they can review. Refs make bad calls all the time. I just didn't see this one as egregious.
Now, based on it, I wouldn't mind seeing roughing calls reviewable, as the slow mo clearly showed it was barely a touch of the face mask.
and screw the Lions for blowing that game.
Wow was he right!rideaducati":2dxbvx75 said:ringless":2dxbvx75 said:Will GB make the playoffs at this rate lol
I expect them to start getting phantom calls to go their way starting pretty quick and throughout the rest of the season.
RichNhansom":603q60hz said:By the way GB is second in 1st down penalties with 27. Arizona is #1 with 32. Yeah that's right. The team leading our division has been given 32 first downs from penalties while the Seahawks have been given 4. Arizona has more 3rd down conversions on penalties with 7 than Seattle has total. Seattle has 1 third down conversion all year off penalty. So next time Ringworm wants to talk about officiating make sure you point that out to him.
IndyHawk":h7lq9vzn said:This!They need to allow teams to review calls such as this one (facemask) at any phase of the game.I myself thought Erin crossed the LOS on that hail mary.Would have been nice to see that calledUncle Si":h7lq9vzn said:It does matter how it looked since its a judgment call based on what they are seeing and not one they can review. Refs make bad calls all the time. I just didn't see this one as egregious.
Now, based on it, I wouldn't mind seeing roughing calls reviewable, as the slow mo clearly showed it was barely a touch of the face mask.
and screw the Lions for blowing that game.
Seahawkfan80":289pblyj said:As we understand the rule, READ ABOVE if you wish to see it, a brush of the facemask is ok. But if someone, say a quarterback, should mock a jerk move of his head...then they have to throw the flag. If this is the new "flop", obviously he won.
As should gesturing like the Dez Bryant's of the world do every time they drop a pass.Bitter":1qj6ibj8 said:Seahawkfan80":1qj6ibj8 said:As we understand the rule, READ ABOVE if you wish to see it, a brush of the facemask is ok. But if someone, say a quarterback, should mock a jerk move of his head...then they have to throw the flag. If this is the new "flop", obviously he won.
Flopping should be made a penalty with equal but opposite repercussions of the penalty the flopper was trying to draw. Cut this off before it becomes like soccer or basketball.
Somebody is somebodies' heads.....Reaneypark":77nxvjsq said:The Hawks are so much in the Packers heads. I'm hoping for a matchup against them in the playoffs. The Pack will get rolled this time.