titan3131":29qqb950 said:
Sgt. Largent":29qqb950 said:
titan3131":29qqb950 said:
2nd half boneheaded drives.
Seattle at 11:32 SEA SDG
1st and 10 at SEA 20 (11:32) PENALTY on SEA-Z.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 20 - No Play. 14 20
1st and 15 at SEA 15 (11:32) (Shotgun) R.Lockette right end to SEA 17 for 2 yards (R.Marshall).
2nd and 13 at SEA 17 (10:51) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short left to M.Lynch to SEA 25 for 8 yards (E.Weddle, M.Gilchrist).
3rd and 5 at SEA 25 (10:01) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass incomplete short left. Penalty on SEA-Z.Miller, Offensive Pass Interference, declined.
Seattle at 3:04 SEA SDG
1st and 10 at SEA 11 (3:04) (Shotgun) P.Harvin left end to SEA 5 for -6 yards (S.Wright). 21 27
2nd and 16 at SEA 5 (2:25) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short right to M.Lynch to SEA 9 for 4 yards (M.Ingram, M.Gilchrist).
Two-Minute Warning
3rd and 12 at SEA 9 (2:00) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short middle to M.Lynch to SEA 10 for 1 yard (D.Stuckey).
Timeout #2 by SEA at 01:51.
4th and 11 at SEA 10 (1:51) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass incomplete deep right to J.Kearse. PENALTY on SEA-Z.Miller, Personal Foul, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 10.
I think these drives were dumb play calls.
WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE CARROLL.
I am just asking for peoples thoughts on why these moments happen.
Why do offensive penalties happen to push your offense into obvious passing plays? idk, ask any coach that, cause I'm sure he'd love to have the magic elixer to stop dumb penalties.
Listing two drives out of entire seasons to make a point is again dumb, if you want to criticize Pete for not running the ball you're talking to the wrong fans. We run the ball more than anyone in the league, so I'm not sure what your deal is taking that stance.
If you dont remember this was the time where we had burned GB with harvin and it didnt work against SD, all those screens and gadget plays were flopping terribly. So you dont think that it was dumb to run a jet sweep with LOCKETTE when it hadnt worked earlier with a better player in harvin, I would have preferred anything to that.
and then the final drive started with harvin opening the drive and losing 6 yards. When did we run ML last and lose 6 yards?
Harvin was a bust we all agree. All I am saying is that Carroll has had big moment failures with different staffs, and he took credit for the SB so he is responsible for his staff now and their decisions.
First of all,
The SD game was played in extreme heat conditions. Once Harvin was traded we learned that he flat out refused to play in the SD, he probably wilted in the heat faster than everyone else being the prima Donna headache he was. Likely after his long shouldn't have been TD run. So you have an OC who tailored his game plan around Harvin, and that specific player playing half-passed or refusing to play at all.
It explained why Walters was running screens and how the offense in whole was all of a mess. Conflicts don't do we'll with 120 degree heat bearing down on you.
And it wasn't just Harvin, the whole team just wasn't as conditioned to handle those temps and they wilted in that circumstance.
But the same issues in that game, repeated itself in the Dallas game. Harvin half assing it or refusing to play. Again it threw a wrench in the gears and tempers flared on the sideline.
I saw a team fall victim to it's own arrogance, a team that would start the season 3-3.
But I also saw a team where Carroll allowed the players to speak for themselves And rise up in thier own way, that team went 9-1 in the regular season. That team went back to the SB.
And they probably didn't deserve to, go back to the Championship game, but from the bottom up this team is resilient to it's core, and they only understand winning. Losing to them has become the biggest insult anyone say or do. You don't let your brothers down, not on the Seahawks.
That culture is all Pete Carroll and the philosophy he built.
What coach isn't flawed, what coach doesn't make a mistake every now and then. But it's the best coaches who strengthen thier flaws and who learn from thier mistakes.
Pete isn't the best strategist but he knows what he's doing. He puts the game in the hands of his players. Most times his players execute in those situations. Sometimes the other team makes the better play. Welcome to Football.