My journey to the dark side (longer)

[pittpnthrs]

For me it was watching the rise and then the fall, you could see the difference in energy, the conflicts, the body language, the player reactions. You knew that there were issues if you watched, keeping coaches that throw players under the bus was the start.

Whatever else we do or don't agree on, we're at 1000% agreement on this one.

Carroll needed to be stronger (and quicker) to the pink slip.

Absolutely disgusting how Bevell threw Lockette under the bus for Bevell's own brain dead play choice. To me it wasn't on Pete, it was Bevell who made the play call. Pete just agreed with OK to pass instead of run. Bevell ran a play that NE knew exactly how to read. That's on Bevell, having such a predictable offense.

When Pete failed to can Bevell immediately (or an apology to Lockette and accepting responsibility by Bevell) everybody knew "always compete" and "protect the team" had become big lies.

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Now just wait one minute here . Bevell may of suggested the call and Carroll approved it ; but since when are interceptions blamed on coaches ? Many here don't want to hear this ; but that interception was on Wilson . Wilson needed to throw a strike at the numbers not high and outside .

Well the coaches do deserve some of the blame for calling a play the opposing team knew and having the worst personnel on the field to execute it. It was a play that had a high percentage of something going wrong or failing and it did. It was doomed for failure at the start.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Yes when your favorite team goes from winning a SB to barely making the playoffs and losing in first rounds, or not making the playoffs at all.......................... that can create some frustration and negativity towards a long tenured front office and head coach.

This is not a unique phenomenon to our fan base.

 

[John63]

For me it was watching the rise and then the fall, you could see the difference in energy, the conflicts, the body language, the player reactions. You knew that there were issues if you watched, keeping coaches that throw players under the bus was the start.

Whatever else we do or don't agree on, we're at 1000% agreement on this one.

Carroll needed to be stronger (and quicker) to the pink slip.

Absolutely disgusting how Bevell threw Lockette under the bus for Bevell's own brain dead play choice. To me it wasn't on Pete, it was Bevell who made the play call. Pete just agreed with OK to pass instead of run. Bevell ran a play that NE knew exactly how to read. That's on Bevell, having such a predictable offense.

When Pete failed to can Bevell immediately (or an apology to Lockette and accepting responsibility by Bevell) everybody knew "always compete" and "protect the team" had become big lies.

^^
Now just wait one minute here . Bevell may of suggested the call and Carroll approved it ; but since when are interceptions blamed on coaches ? Many here don't want to hear this ; but that interception was on Wilson . Wilson needed to throw a strike at the numbers not high and outside .

Well the coaches do deserve some of the blame for calling a play the opposing team knew and having the worst personnel on the field to execute it. It was a play that had a high percentage of something going wrong or failing and it did. It was doomed for failure at the start.

on that play Wilson is throwing to a spot, the Wr did not get there. It is a timing pattern using the wrong people to include a #5 wr who has never run the play. It's basically the same type of play as the Hass we want the ball and are going to win play. the one everyone blamed the Wr for. A timing pattern where you are throwing to where the Wr is supposed to be. unfortunately, our #5 wr never go there and in fact, was very slow out of his break.

 

[Fade]

I simply think PC's model simply doesn't work when the QB consumes so much of the team's salary cap. Pete's system is predicated on playing great defense. Not enough salary cap left. Only during Russell's rookie contract were the Hawks truly a threat in the playoffs.

Can/will Pete change and adapt his model? He's nearly out of time.

Wilsons rookie contract also consisted of a RB that constantly led the league in yards after contact and a historically great defense that was put together through the drafting of familiar college talent. When you cant replicate the RB or draft the talent you need for the scheme and philosophy you want to run, maybe the scheme and philosophy need to change.

The excuse of Wilsons contract is tired and lame.

Rams had over 40 mil in the QB position

Sure after the team was already stacked. Please do not forget that part.

Don't forget they kept adding, either. ODB & Von Miller came after Stafford. And they were not cheap.

The Rams will reload in the off-season, with less money to spend than the Seahawks and be contenders again. As they continue to kill it in the draft, sign better Free Agents, and make better trades. Meanwhile Pete & Co. will get a pass once again for having another likely underwhelming off-season. Because muh "Wilson salary." No accountability is the Seahawks #1 problem, and it starts at the top.

 

[John63]

Wilsons rookie contract also consisted of a RB that constantly led the league in yards after contact and a historically great defense that was put together through the drafting of familiar college talent. When you cant replicate the RB or draft the talent you need for the scheme and philosophy you want to run, maybe the scheme and philosophy need to change.

The excuse of Wilsons contract is tired and lame.

Rams had over 40 mil in the QB position

Sure after the team was already stacked. Please do not forget that part.

Don't forget they kept adding, either. ODB & Von Miller came after Stafford. And they were not cheap.

The Rams will reload in the off-season, with less money to spend than the Seahawks and be contenders again. As they continue to kill it in the draft, sign better Free Agents, and make better trades. Meanwhile Pete & Co. will get a pass once again for having another likely underwhelming off-season. Because muh "Wilson salary." No accountability is the Seahawks #1 problem, and it starts at the top.

THIS^^^

Let's look at this

Wilson is currently the 5th highest paid, and Seattle is the 8th highest in cap hit(total cap hit of Qbs),
Teams higher in either category
GB
Tenn
KC
Rams
Cowboys


Also within 2 mil of Seattle
SF
Colts


Hmm all playoff teams

Notice all made the playoffs to include an SB winner. There are others