Lets talk Derick Hall

[Chawker]

I have a feeling he is going to have a extraordinary good rookie campaign. He might even push spoon for ROY, I think it will come down to how much playing time he gets. I believe he could rack up 10 sacks this season, but to do this he'll have to beat out D. Taylor to do it.

I think by week three look for Hall to have a starting roll in the Seahawks defense.

Cheers

 

[oldhawkfan]

What’s the word on him in camp? Is he standing out? Making plays?

 

[seabowl]

I like the optimism however, he had 19.5 sacks in 47 college games. Now you think in his rookie year he has a chance to get 10 sacks in the NFL which would be 1.7 sacks per game average. Your viewpoint isn’t the glass is half full, but rather the glass is overflowing.

 

[bileever]

I like the optimism however, he had 19.5 sacks in 47 college games. Now you think in his rookie year he has a chance to get 10 sacks in the NFL which would be 1.7 sacks per game average. Your viewpoint isn’t the glass is half full, but rather the glass is overflowing.

Your math is a little off. 10 sacks is actually .58 or about half a sack a game. 1.7 sacks a game would be 29 sacks on the season.

 

[hgwellz12]

While I think 10 sacks is high, I could see 5 or 6 with some game saving athletic freak type plays.

 

[Smellyman]

A rotation with him and Mafe keeping both fresh is ideal. Their combined sacks at 15 would be cool.

 

[Lagartixa]

I like the optimism however, he had 19.5 sacks in 47 college games. Now you think in his rookie year he has a chance to get 10 sacks in the NFL which would be 1.7 sacks per game average. Your viewpoint isn’t the glass is half full, but rather the glass is overflowing.

Why do you think he'll play in just six games?

10 sacks / (1.7 sacks/game) = 5.88 games.

 

[BASF]

If the highway robbery of giving the ROY to Gardner over Woolen has shown anything, it's that the Seahawks aren't winning rookie of the year in this era. The only stat Gardner had an advantage in was pass defenses by only two and was still gifted the ROY.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

As we've seen over the past couple of years with guys like Taylor, Robinson, Mafe, etc. It's VERY difficult for even great college DE's to come into the NFL and have a big impact.

The NFL game is so technical, it can take years for them to figure it out. Or in some cases, never figure it out because they keep trying to fall back on their strength and athleticism, and don't put in the work on the technical game.

So while Hall is an absolute beast of a player with a high motor, he's very raw so I'm not really expecting all that much from him this year other than getting 10-20% of snaps and learning the position.

But he's definitely a player I'm going to be watching in pre-season games.

 

[bileever]

@Chawker, this turned out to be a timely post. I hope you're right about Derick Hall because Darrell Taylor just sprained his shoulder.

I'm high on Hall and Mike Morris. Those are two big, strong fellows. Morris is 6' 6" and 300 pounds! And Derick Hall ran a 4.55 40 and had a 1.59 10 yard split. Aside from Nolan Richardson, there wasn't any DEs quicker than that in this year's draft.

 

[12AngryHawks]

If the highway robbery of giving the ROY to Gardner over Woolen has shown anything, it's that the Seahawks aren't winning rookie of the year in this era. The only stat Gardner had an advantage in was pass defenses by only two and was still gifted the ROY.

And to add insult to injury, "Sauce" was placed 53 spots ahead of Tariq on the top 100. SMH.

 

[Chawker]

I think Hall is the best kept secret in this year training camp, Pete's hinden gem for 2023.

 

[Smellyman]

If the highway robbery of giving the ROY to Gardner over Woolen has shown anything, it's that the Seahawks aren't winning rookie of the year in this era. The only stat Gardner had an advantage in was pass defenses by only two and was still gifted the ROY.

and Walker not getting OROY and Carroll never winning coach and Schneider never getting Exec ot the Year etc. etc.

 

[Hawkinaz]

I could see Hall playing as a situational pass rusher and getting 10 sacks for a season that’s how the 49ers played Aldon Smith in his rookie year when he had 14 sacks in a 16 game season and voted DROY

 

[Fade]

Taylor and Nwosu are going to be the guys lined up at edge on passing downs. With Mafe being the base starter over Taylor, with some pass rep Ops here and there for Mafe as well.

Injuries need to occur to 1, maybe 2 of those 3 guys for Hall to get significant reps as a pass rusher.

I'm looking at it being more like a learning year for Hall, and in yr 2 is where he becomes a regular for the likely vacated Taylor.

 

[vonstout]

Why do you think he'll play in just six games?

10 sacks / (1.7 sacks/game) = 5.88 games.

I hope this is sarcasm

 

[Mick063]

I would show him loop film of Dwight Freeney on a daily basis.

 

[seabowl]

Yes, I was way off with my math. I have no idea how I came up with that number but I did. As Chevy Chase said in a skit on SNL “It was to my understanding there would be no math in this debate“.

 

[Lagartixa]

I hope this is sarcasm

Do you disagree with the calculation?

I'll stand by my affirmation that if the person to whom I was replying thought Hall having ten sacks in the season meant 1.7 sacks per game, then he thought Hall would only play in six games.

1.7 sacks per game in a 17-game season would be about 29 sacks, but since a player can only have an integer or half-integer number of sacks, it probably makes more sense to say that a 29-sack performance in a 17-game season would be an average of 1.706 sacks per game, and a 28.5-sack performance would be an average of 1.676 sacks per game.

If you're asking if I understand the arithmetic error in the post to which I was replying, look at how I set up the calculation, with the dimensions (sacks, sacks/game, and games) explicitly present so there's no ambiguity. When one is not sure if one should be multiplying or dividing, the dimensions show the way to correctly set up the calculation as multiplication of fractions.

 

[chrispy]

Darrell Taylor- sprained shoulder so there may be some shuffling already....